Caesar
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Post by Caesar on Sept 30, 2018 20:38:40 GMT
Way to go Rich, you nail your colours to the mast. This is my kinda coach. I hope he stays more than the one year he's signed up to
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Post by pantherlee on Sept 30, 2018 20:42:36 GMT
Good. Two can play at that game. Glad he's not just being Mr. Nice Guy or pussyfooting around it. Say it like it is
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Sept 30, 2018 20:56:32 GMT
Personally I love that he wants to call coaches out for not settling it on the ice. I can’t wait for them to play us in a couple of weeks.
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Post by iginla on Sept 30, 2018 20:59:35 GMT
Personally I love that he wants to call coaches out for not settling it on the ice. I can’t wait for them to play us in a couple of weeks. Yes great words from Cherno there. I think Steelers might just regret what they did this weekend in two weeks time !
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Post by wgray on Sept 30, 2018 21:14:38 GMT
This is brilliant and I couldn’t agree with him more, this is ice hockey, these are tough men and if they’ve got a problem with something then they sort it on the ice. Cherno is going to make the back biting brummie regret what he’s done in a couple of weeks!
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 1, 2018 7:27:49 GMT
Not really sure what he's complaining about here.
Yes Thommo submitted the reports, but if there wasn't any headshots, then there wouldn't be a ban!
Rather than being bitter about it he'd be much better off telling Biggs & Rissling to wise up and not leave their teamates extra work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 7:34:07 GMT
Not really sure what he's complaining about here. Yes Thommo submitted the reports, but if there wasn't any headshots, then there wouldn't be a ban! Rather than being bitter about it he'd be much better off telling Biggs & Rissling to wise up and not leave their teamates extra work. Didn't effect us yesterday Your coach has bigger problems.. hopefully Tony signs him to a 10 year contract 😁 Roll on 2 weeks time ! 👊
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 1, 2018 7:38:27 GMT
Not really sure what he's complaining about here. Yes Thommo submitted the reports, but if there wasn't any headshots, then there wouldn't be a ban! Rather than being bitter about it he'd be much better off telling Biggs & Rissling to wise up and not leave their teamates extra work. Didn't effect us yesterday Your coach has bigger problems.. hopefully Tony signs him to a 10 year contract 😁 Roll on 2 weeks time ! 👊 You should beat us. I predict a similar 5-2 result as the CC game. We didn't beat you because we were good. We beat you because you played terribly compared to what I saw vs Cardiff.
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Post by wgray on Oct 1, 2018 8:41:27 GMT
Not really sure what he's complaining about here. Yes Thommo submitted the reports, but if there wasn't any headshots, then there wouldn't be a ban! Rather than being bitter about it he'd be much better off telling Biggs & Rissling to wise up and not leave their teamates extra work. Their is no maliciousness in either incident in my opinion, Rich wants to play physical hockey and the way the league is there are likely to be bans. This is a serious question, don’t you feel embarrassed at the lack of reaction, from your players, to these incident’s? It’s all well and good Lawrence laughing at Doty when he offers him out but when you need that spark and aggression from someone, when you’re behind in a big game, who is going to get it going?
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Post by PantherB on Oct 1, 2018 8:55:56 GMT
The main complaint in my eyes Is that neither incident received any more than a 2 minute minor, if that!
Steelers won the game, non of their players became injured as a result of any hits. It's probably just bitterness and jealousy from Thompson.
As has been pointed out many times, the Steelers roster has zero backbone. Martinelli got absolutely nailed after the 1st goal and nobody tried to stand up for him.
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Post by mardibum on Oct 1, 2018 8:58:02 GMT
Hmm. You’ve got to admit it does stink a bit. In any other sport the powers that be always seem to support the refs original decision. Are DOPS saying that the refs aren’t good enough? Or do Sheffield have some sort of influence? In any case - very unsportsmanlike, but what do you expect from Thommo.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 1, 2018 9:12:59 GMT
I don't think either were malicious, Rissling was a heat of the moment frustration play after conceding, Biggs was just a failed attempt at a big hit.
I'm personally not fussed about the lack of reaction as long as we pick up the W.
But we're not doing that consistently.
There are arguments for or against, but we can't use the "we get a PP" argument for not retaliating as we're running at 4.5% over our last 5 games 😂
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 1, 2018 9:38:36 GMT
The bigger problem than that whiney tit Thompson is the amount of daft penalties we are taking all of a sudden.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 1, 2018 9:46:57 GMT
Hmm. You’ve got to admit it does stink a bit. In any other sport the powers that be always seem to support the refs original decision. Are DOPS saying that the refs aren’t good enough? Or do Sheffield have some sort of influence? In any case - very unsportsmanlike, but what do you expect from Thommo. Think both were missed originally, and they backed the minor call, so not necessarily overruling their officials. I've no problem with things being picked up after the fact. I think all this settle it on the ice is a bit out of time tbh, those days are over and hits to the head, either by or on ours, need to be dealt with. I'm a bit surprised no one at HQ pointed out to Rich that Sheffield were bound to refer everything they possibly could, given they always do.
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Post by wasteoftime on Oct 1, 2018 12:17:38 GMT
The time will come when there will be no contact hockey. The diving and play acting that has crept into the game will only lead to it.
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Post by Walitzer on Oct 1, 2018 12:47:12 GMT
Not really sure what he's complaining about here. Yes Thommo submitted the reports, but if there wasn't any headshots, then there wouldn't be a ban! Rather than being bitter about it he'd be much better off telling Biggs & Rissling to wise up and not leave their teamates extra work. I don't think he was seriously complaining.
Rich is playing a part to sell the Sheffield vs Nottingham rivalry.
He's not going to blame and humiliate his own players publicly (who would do a thing like that?) when he can use the opportunity to fan the flames and ruffle up Sheffield.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Oct 1, 2018 14:36:56 GMT
Not really sure what he's complaining about here. Yes Thommo submitted the reports, but if there wasn't any headshots, then there wouldn't be a ban! Rather than being bitter about it he'd be much better off telling Biggs & Rissling to wise up and not leave their teamates extra work. Tyler Biggs had the ban for Checking to the head or neck. If that is the case I have unfortunately to agree with this post. Rich also complained about the new interpretation of the laws. If we keep moaning about it and dont amend things obviously we will still get penalised Personally I didn't really see much wrong with Rislings actions - the ban does seem a bit over the top - but if is that is how its going to be we have to learn.
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Oct 4, 2018 17:23:56 GMT
The only problem I have with the whole scenario is the way DOPS is utilised by the league. Steelers and Thompson have done absolutely nothing wrong here, and for me the suspsensions, whilst I do think are harsh, are probably about right in respect of previous suspensions the league's seen, both this season and the last few. Headtshots are a big talking point in all leagues in all sports at the moment and concussion is the major buzzword concerning them, so trying to clamp down on "high" shots is fair enough.
BUT... If the league are actually serious about protecting players, afterall that's what DOPS stands for, then the way it is handled needs changing massively. It shouldn't be up to teams to have to pay to raise awareness of an incident that is worthy of a ban. Whether you agree that 2 games is correct for Biggs, the EIHL see it as a fitting suspesion for the play... but they don't think it serious enough to look at indepentantly without some money falling into their pockets. I know the money in the league is effectively Owner A paying the league £x and that money is then split between the teams, of which Owner A will receive a cut, so effectively its just the same money being passed around each other, but it stinks.
It's about time the EIHL made DOPS about what it actually says it is and become a Department of Player Safety, not a quick and easy way to make a buck.
Whether it's petty minded (in these instances I think it is) or genuine concern for their players, teams who apply for these reviews are not at fault, and unfortunately until the system is changed it is a tactic. There's no shock that Sheffield applied 3 reviews (according to Panthers they countered one arguement with some video that got Rissling, I think, off the hook for something) to have our players suspended, especially when you consider we were playing away from home in Guildford in Elite League action the next day. League rules suspensions, we don't have any time to even think about appealing them and as such have to just take it on the chin.
Club's with more money shouldn't have a premium for "player safety", or rather tactically requesting suspensions, than other clubs who won't be able to budget it. Player Safety and suspensions should be a level playing field and governed fairly and independantly.
I remember Panthers holding 2 game worn shirt raffles for Zion Penner's jerseys and gave the money to a struggling Newcastle Vipers, who proceeded to use the money to try and get Penner suspended!!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 4, 2018 19:17:55 GMT
I remember Panthers holding 2 game worn shirt raffles for Zion Penner's jerseys and gave the money to a struggling Newcastle Vipers, who proceeded to use the money to try and get Penner suspended!! Those were the days
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Post by tootootrain on Oct 5, 2018 0:34:22 GMT
I remember Panthers holding 2 game worn shirt raffles for Zion Penner's jerseys and gave the money to a struggling Newcastle Vipers, who proceeded to use the money to try and get Penner suspended!! Given that back then Danny Stewart and Jamie Longmuir were running things (into the ground) at the Vipers such behaviour by them was hardly surprising!
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