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Post by BigLad on Jul 28, 2018 14:23:07 GMT
Disagree with some of what Ig says but surely he’s allowed an opinion? Pretty clear and she even partially admitted that she only came on here to attack Iginla. On topic, I’m not bothered either way about the degree but CN always seemed a decent human being to me and glad to see he is fixed up with a new gig. Yotes, Shaggy, Dan and myself are very liberal with what’s allowed to be said on here. Quite frankly, for the most part, we don’t have to do a lot of moderating. However, as some may or may not know, at least one of the 4 of us has to read every post that goes on here. Most of the time, it’s all 4 of us. Now Iginla has had pretty much free reign on what he likes to say and for the most part has stayed within the rules. We have allowed every opinion he has to be aired. In fact, to some people, it has been to the detriment of their enjoyment of the Cage But now from my point of view, he’s attacking Corey with unfounded accusations of arrogance and then when he’s called out on it, basically admits he will have nothing to do with the Panthers moving forward. So for the record, Iggy doesn’t like GM. He thinks he’s being short changed. He’s made the point numerous times and it’s winding people up. So from my point of view, whilst he is not banned and no action has been taken, his incessant need to fill threads with gripe after gripe will now be less tolerated. He can air his views. No issue with that. But no more of the constant fill of negativity that is now coming across as trolling. About time. Thanks mods.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jul 31, 2018 14:37:45 GMT
I dont know who Iginla is and if he does know about the inner workings of the club or not. If he does it's interesting that his views on the club are what they are.
Regarding the degree i'm not sure why it found it's way into this part of the forum in the 1st place. I certainly have no problem with CN getting one.
Good luck to the bloke in the future.
If people want to think everything is perfect with the Management / Ownership of the club then that's up to them. Surely it doesn't hurt to have the other side of the coin on an internet forum?
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Post by Yotes on Jul 31, 2018 16:16:33 GMT
Regarding the degree i'm not sure why it found it's way into this part of the forum in the 1st place. I certainly have no problem with CN getting one. It's still Panthers related, wouldn't be any different if it was, say, Paul Adey getting an accolade. If people want to think everything is perfect with the Management / Ownership of the club then that's up to them. Surely it doesn't hurt to have the other side of the coin on an internet forum? But Neilson isn't management anymore, that's the point. If the gripes are relevant to the topic that's one thing, but they often aren't and here they just seem to be a bit needlessly unpleasant against the man tbh. People don't have to be happy for Corey to get this award, but just ignore the thread.
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 31, 2018 18:22:24 GMT
Regarding the degree i'm not sure why it found it's way into this part of the forum in the 1st place. Because I posted it here. And the reason that I did that is because - whether some people like it or not - Corey Neilson is a massive part of recent Panthers history, and quite frankly deserves some recognition for that. Why does it always have to be extremes? Name me one person who has stated that they "think everything is perfect" with the Panthers? Not a single one, as I recall. There are those who think that some things are wrong, and those who think that there's a lot wrong. Some of them post those feelings, some don't. Some people - like myself - think that there are some things they get wrong and that there are some things that they get right... and we say so - both ways. That depends if said other side is blinkered - bordering on rabid - hatred of the management/ownership of the club, a refusal to accept that they can do anything right, and the incessant hounding of those who appear to disagree with that. It gets a bit wearing after a while...
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Post by blackcat on Jul 31, 2018 21:10:52 GMT
Well said Joanne and you have remained far more civil than most of us could manage given some of ridiculous ill informed ( although alleged fact ) garbage and vitriol posted on some of the threads aimed at Corey. As others have said a less arrogant person would be hard to meet . Most of us got the whole call me Dr thing for the usual sense of humour Corey has. Glad the mods are finally tiring of certain posters inability to move forward . Might read more of the forum now without having to ignore so many threads :-)
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Post by messier1851 on Aug 1, 2018 0:00:26 GMT
When I was at University, longer ago now than I'd care to admit, I did some work writing for the Manchester Phoenix match night programme so as to gain experience as I wanted to have a career working within the sports media.
The Phoenix were kind enough to give me the chance to speak to coaches around the league to do preview pieces ahead of the games, some were great to speak to, others not so much.
The first time I was to speak to Corey, I was a little nervous, especially as a Panthers fan. I did as I would always do, sent a text explaining who I was, could I have five minutes to chat for a preview piece. He called me five minutes later, laughed as I scrambled for a pen and paper and we talked hockey for a good 10-15 minutes. He didn't have to do that. Not all the coaches around the league did it, but he took the time and that for me speaks volumes.
Confident? Sure, you have to be as any professional sportsman, you've reached levels most will only ever dream of reaching.
Arrogant? Not for me.
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 1, 2018 8:33:54 GMT
Regarding the degree i'm not sure why it found it's way into this part of the forum in the 1st place. Because I posted it here. And the reason that I did that is because - whether some people like it or not - Corey Neilson is a massive part of recent Panthers history, and quite frankly deserves some recognition for that. I'd say that CN has received (rightly so) a lot of recognition for his work at Panthers both as a player and coach. Why does it always have to be extremes? Name me one person who has stated that they "think everything is perfect" with the Panthers? Not a single one, as I recall. Way of the world and especially on line / social media I guess. People exagerate their point sometimes to try and "win" the arguement / discussion. There are those who think that some things are wrong, and those who think that there's a lot wrong. Some of them post those feelings, some don't. Some people - like myself - think that there are some things they get wrong and that there are some things that they get right... and we say so - both ways. That depends if said other side is blinkered - bordering on rabid - hatred of the management/ownership of the club, a refusal to accept that they can do anything right, and the incessant hounding of those who appear to disagree with that. It gets a bit wearing after a while... I think the thing with Iginla is that he posts a lot of things that fans do not want to read / know about. Uncomfortable truths if you will.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 8:39:03 GMT
Because I posted it here. And the reason that I did that is because - whether some people like it or not - Corey Neilson is a massive part of recent Panthers history, and quite frankly deserves some recognition for that. I'd say that CN has received (rightly so) a lot of recognition for his work at Panthers both as a player and coach. Why does it always have to be extremes? Name me one person who has stated that they "think everything is perfect" with the Panthers? Not a single one, as I recall. Way of the world and especially on line / social media I guess. People exagerate their point sometimes to try and "win" the arguement / discussion. There are those who think that some things are wrong, and those who think that there's a lot wrong. Some of them post those feelings, some don't. Some people - like myself - think that there are some things they get wrong and that there are some things that they get right... and we say so - both ways. That depends if said other side is blinkered - bordering on rabid - hatred of the management/ownership of the club, a refusal to accept that they can do anything right, and the incessant hounding of those who appear to disagree with that. It gets a bit wearing after a while... I think the thing with Iginla is that he posts a lot of things that fans do not want to read / know about. Uncomfortable truths if you will. Not in my case. I'm fed up with the same stuff being regurgitated over & over again. It's just plain boring. I know things are wrong with the way the club is run I just get sick and tired of it taking over every thread.
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Post by pantherlee on Aug 1, 2018 8:54:50 GMT
Because I posted it here. And the reason that I did that is because - whether some people like it or not - Corey Neilson is a massive part of recent Panthers history, and quite frankly deserves some recognition for that. I'd say that CN has received (rightly so) a lot of recognition for his work at Panthers both as a player and coach. Why does it always have to be extremes? Name me one person who has stated that they "think everything is perfect" with the Panthers? Not a single one, as I recall. Way of the world and especially on line / social media I guess. People exagerate their point sometimes to try and "win" the arguement / discussion. There are those who think that some things are wrong, and those who think that there's a lot wrong. Some of them post those feelings, some don't. Some people - like myself - think that there are some things they get wrong and that there are some things that they get right... and we say so - both ways. That depends if said other side is blinkered - bordering on rabid - hatred of the management/ownership of the club, a refusal to accept that they can do anything right, and the incessant hounding of those who appear to disagree with that. It gets a bit wearing after a while... I think the thing with Iginla is that he posts a lot of things that fans do not want to read / know about. Uncomfortable truths if you will. No he doesn't at all. When he posts objectively he can make some good points but when its just his anti-panthers vendetta he talks absolute drivel and just ends up posting the same thing on every thread. How long has he been doing it now? I think everyone has got the message now that he doesn't like Panthers management. He doesn't need to force it down our throats every 5 minutes
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Post by jd on Aug 1, 2018 9:04:16 GMT
Its like groundhog day every time he posts - its so predictable and boring.
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 1, 2018 9:22:24 GMT
Its like groundhog day every time he posts - its so predictable and boring. That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read.
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Post by Joe on Aug 1, 2018 9:42:42 GMT
Its like groundhog day every time he posts - its so predictable and boring. That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read. it’s not so much those posts that annoy people but more the posts where he personally attacks Neilson and tries to belittle his achievements even though he’s left.
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Post by iginla on Aug 1, 2018 10:03:19 GMT
That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read. it’s not so much those posts that annoy people but more the posts where he personally attacks Neilson and tries to belittle his achievements even though he’s left. I didn’t attack anybody here,I just answered Spiks original question on about the 2nd post in the thread. And it wasn’t an untruth it was true,you don’t call yourself doctor. I then got attacked and pointed out that we had not even come close to a league title in all but one of the last ten years,which was again true. After those two truths I’ve been shot at a lot,told I talk rubbish,haven’t a clue,I’ve been called deluded etc and even rabid (and by a Mod too). This is a forum of opinions,some people don’t like what I post and I don’t like constant happy clapper posts from some people,but that’s what some people constantly post. Who is to say they are right and I’m wrong,I don’t call people delusional or rabid just because they can see no wrong in Pantherland.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 10:20:28 GMT
Its like groundhog day every time he posts - its so predictable and boring. That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read. Wrong....again! It's (from my perspective), repeated ramblings of the same thing over & over again. I'm not uncomfortable with the 'truths', I just choose not to rant on & on & on about it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 10:25:59 GMT
And a lot of people just don't care enough to want to know what goes on behind the scenes . They like to turn up watch a game weather it's good or bad then go home.. and hand their money over of cause!
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Post by iginla on Aug 1, 2018 10:41:05 GMT
That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read. Wrong....again! It's (from my perspective), repeated ramblings of the same thing over & over again. I'm not uncomfortable with the 'truths', I just choose not to rant on & on & on about it. You could level that argument at virtually everybody on the cage. Because inevitably the same things happen every season, therefore the same topics and responses crop up again and again year on year. The moaners moan and the happy clappers clap, but for some reason the happy clappers can do no wrong and the others get vilified for daring to criticise.
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Post by jd on Aug 1, 2018 11:04:03 GMT
Its like groundhog day every time he posts - its so predictable and boring. That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read. Constantly moaning about CN isn't an uncomfortable truth thought Rob. We know Iginla isn't a fan of his, but every opportunity that comes up, he has a dig. He gets an honorary degree (something that should be celebrated) and he moans. Its just a bit embarrassing after while.
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 1, 2018 11:10:47 GMT
That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read. Constantly moaning about CN isn't an uncomfortable truth thought Rob. We know Iginla isn't a fan of his, but every opportunity that comes up, he has a dig. He gets an honorary degree (something that should be celebrated) and he moans. Its just a bit embarrassing after while. As i'm sure you were aware I was talking about him as a poster generally rather than specifically to this thread or indeed CN.
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Post by iginla on Aug 1, 2018 11:12:09 GMT
That maybe so but maybe the reason he posts are so annoying for people is because they are uncomfortable truths. If the fans knew the extent of the finances I believe many would be shocked and horrified. All of them could find this out but choose not to look because they don't want to know. The same reason Iginla's posts are difficult for people to read. Constantly moaning about CN isn't an uncomfortable truth thought Rob. We know Iginla isn't a fan of his, but every opportunity that comes up, he has a dig. He gets an honorary degree (something that should be celebrated) and he moans. Its just a bit embarrassing after while. I didn’t moan....Spik asked a question and I answered it with a true answer. Looks at the opening few posts. Google it if you don’t believe me. “Should you call yourself doctor” ?
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Post by Pies on Aug 1, 2018 11:42:16 GMT
Okay ladies and gentleman this thread has gone off topic ometey now.
Fact of the matter is as Mods we have made a group decision on how we wish to manage this forum. If people have an issue with this, please feel free to DM any of us.
I’ll end this on a congratulations to Corey and we’ll move on.
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