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Post by Karl on Jul 15, 2018 22:03:27 GMT
Think we need a bit of perspective on this one. £12 for a solid 3 hours entertainment in a decent facility against decent European opposition. It’s not exactly bank breaking to ask for £12 to support bringing decent teams in is it?
Or should we just play Glasgow and Cardiff a few times and call it a tenner...?
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Post by Yotes on Jul 15, 2018 22:42:32 GMT
Which ticket is 12 quid?
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Post by kievthegreat on Jul 15, 2018 22:47:13 GMT
Think we need a bit of perspective on this one. £12 for a solid 3 hours entertainment in a decent facility against decent European opposition. It’s not exactly bank breaking to ask for £12 to support bringing decent teams in is it? Or should we just play Glasgow and Cardiff a few times and call it a tenner...? The other way to look at it is that for season ticket holders in Gold blocks it's the exact same price as a league game £15. Hardly value for money by comparison.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jul 15, 2018 22:48:19 GMT
Bronze season ticket holders get £1 off and don't pay the facilities fee. Assume that's what he's talking about.
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Post by texpef on Jul 16, 2018 3:35:19 GMT
so again season ticket holders are given an advantage over fans who most likely end up paying more over a season purely down the the fact they haven't paid up front for their seats...
tbh I don't see any reason why non season ticket holders would pay what is in effect full price for these pre season games where the team will be most likely not be at full strength and certainly not firing on all cylinders and also its essentially practice games... in any other sport do the clubs treat their fans this way charging what in effect is premium prices for what are warm up games to a full season?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 9:31:52 GMT
Tickets went on sale about an hour ago, and it looks like around half are unavailable. All lower level and 25% of lower part of upper seem to be unavailable. Are these season ticket seats being reserved by the club, or have they already sold around 3000 seats?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 9:43:32 GMT
Tickets went on sale about an hour ago, and it looks like around half are unavailable. All lower level and 25% of lower part of upper seem to be unavailable. Are these season ticket seats being reserved by the club, or have they already sold around 3000 seats? They’ll be reserved for season ticket holders.
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Post by BigLad on Jul 16, 2018 11:30:36 GMT
Bronze season ticket holders get £1 off and don't pay the facilities fee. Assume that's what he's talking about. Everyone pays the new 90p facility fee. It's the "booking fee" that Panthers "absorb" for hockey games.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jul 16, 2018 11:33:51 GMT
Bronze season ticket holders get £1 off and don't pay the facilities fee. Assume that's what he's talking about. Everyone pays the new 90p facility fee. It's the "booking fee" that Panthers "absorb" for hockey games. www.panthers.co.uk/home/preseason-big-discounts"When season ticket holders add on games such as pre-season, Challenge Cup or extra league games they will NOT pay the new facility fee."
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Post by tootootrain on Jul 16, 2018 11:52:03 GMT
Think we need a bit of perspective on this one... Ok, I'm listening. Bit of an assumption to make given the quality of previous pre-season games. It's non-competitive warm-up hockey, with teams not wanting players to risk injuring themselves before the season starts. Surely the 'facility fee' covers that doesn't it? And as already stated, in non-competitive games. In your opinion, but others may view £12 for a non-competitive warm-up game as expensive. You've also no idea what the finances of individuals are like. Surely its mutually beneficial for both teams (a pre-season warm-up game) so they should be paying their own way? Why not call it a tenner regardless of the opposition? It's the use of the venue which is the largest cost so the team Panthers are playing shouldn't come into it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 13:23:21 GMT
Personally I think the prices are too high and while I think it’s great that we have attracted some European opposition and have an unprecedented five home pre-season games, I feel an opportunity has been missed by the club to offer some reduced ticket packages.
I think a £10/£5 full price/concession price point would have been ideal, however like I said it’s an opportunity missed and I think regular fans will pick & choose or not go at all.
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Post by NottinghamMatt on Jul 16, 2018 14:02:49 GMT
Big discounts This is a big discount... 19,000+ free tickets for season card holders Everyone else: Adults - £15 Seniors (65+) - £10 18-23-year-olds and 12-17-year-olds - £5 4-11-year-olds - £1 www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/news/2018/july/bournemouth-friendly-free-for-season-card-holders/Given that there is no deadline or expectation for season card holders at Forest to release their seat that means a maximum ticket revenue of £171,675 (assuming 19,000 season card holders and no segregation, all adult tickets sold) and let's be honest it won't sell out! Wonder what it costs Forest to open the entire ground including stewarding, policing, bar staff, etc. etc.? Compared to arena rental? As a season card holder at both it's not hard to feel more valued by one than the other right now! Worth also noting that first home game of the regular season is in the Challenge Cup according to the article so that'll cost too!
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Post by pingchowchi on Jul 16, 2018 14:44:41 GMT
I would have imagined that, seat for seat it's more expensive to run the arena than the city ground to be honest. I also suspect that attendance makes up a much larger % of the panthers turnover than forest's.
That said, I'm disappointed that the games are not cheaper.
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Post by NottinghamMatt on Jul 16, 2018 15:01:12 GMT
I would have imagined that, seat for seat it's more expensive to run the arena than the city ground to be honest. I also suspect that attendance makes up a much larger % of the panthers turnover than forest's. That said, I'm disappointed that the games are not cheaper. That's why I was curious about it, so many variables, like Panthers won't get a cut of refreshment spend so I imagine don't "pay" for those staff. Basically Forest need to cover their costs to fill the place with less than 40% of the seats as I'm sure they have to assume that all 19,000+ season card holders will attend.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jul 16, 2018 16:00:45 GMT
I would have imagined that, seat for seat it's more expensive to run the arena than the city ground to be honest. I also suspect that attendance makes up a much larger % of the panthers turnover than forest's. That said, I'm disappointed that the games are not cheaper. That's why I was curious about it, so many variables, like Panthers won't get a cut of refreshment spend so I imagine don't "pay" for those staff. Basically Forest need to cover their costs to fill the place with less than 40% of the seats as I'm sure they have to assume that all 19,000+ season card holders will attend. "Panthers Beer"
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Post by Rob Scott on Jul 16, 2018 16:15:17 GMT
End of the day as always it’s peoples own decision whether they go or not. Same as POFW.
For me personally if they had done £50 for all 5 for an adult and £25 for all 5 for a child then me and the boy would have gone to them all. As it is we won’t be going to any.
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Post by MPW! on Jul 16, 2018 18:09:56 GMT
Posted on twitter by the arena in reply to someone questioning the fee....
This fee covers the cost of maintaining and improving our venue facilities. We want to provide the best possible experience to Panthers fans and the fees being charged will be invested in the purchase and maintenance of a fantastic new scoreboard next year.
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Post by spik on Jul 16, 2018 18:20:19 GMT
Posted on twitter by the arena in reply to someone questioning the fee.... This fee covers the cost of maintaining and improving our venue facilities. We want to provide the best possible experience to Panthers fans and the fees being charged will be invested in the purchase and maintenance of a fantastic new scoreboard next year. As with previous comment.Depends on your angles/variation of how you take this. Are we thus paying towards/for this? Once upon a time you'd pay the entry fee and that was it. I'm having a yard sale next week and selling loads of stuff but now I've decided to charge a 'foot on tarmac' charge so as to improve the next years 'yard sale experiance'.....if you don't buy anything , there's no reimbursment though
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Post by shinobi on Jul 16, 2018 18:38:01 GMT
End of the day as always it’s peoples own decision whether they go or not. Same as POFW. For me personally if they had done £50 for all 5 for an adult and £25 for all 5 for a child then me and the boy would have gone to them all. As it is we won’t be going to any. Why?
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Post by iginla on Jul 16, 2018 18:38:06 GMT
Posted on twitter by the arena in reply to someone questioning the fee.... This fee covers the cost of maintaining and improving our venue facilities. We want to provide the best possible experience to Panthers fans and the fees being charged will be invested in the purchase and maintenance of a fantastic new scoreboard next year. As with previous comment.Depends on your angles/variation of how you take this. Are we thus paying towards/for this? Once upon a time you'd pay the entry fee and that was it. I'm having a yard sale next week and selling loads of stuff but now I've decided to charge a 'foot on tarmac' charge so as to improve the next years 'yard sale experiance'.....if you don't buy anything , there's no reimbursment though I think you’re quite right there Spik I can just imagine Tesco’s putting 5% on everybody’s shopping bill towards the next store refurbishment. There would be uproar and they’d never get away with doing it. Sorry but it’s not on,it’s ridiculous,it’s just greed and it stinks !
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Post by iginla on Jul 16, 2018 18:40:09 GMT
End of the day as always it’s peoples own decision whether they go or not. Same as POFW. For me personally if they had done £50 for all 5 for an adult and £25 for all 5 for a child then me and the boy would have gone to them all. As it is we won’t be going to any. Why? Because he probably thinks that he’s being ripped off at current price so he’s staying away. And I agree 100% with him and will do the same.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 18:42:50 GMT
Does this charge applied to buying concert tickets as well?
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Post by BigLad on Jul 16, 2018 18:43:12 GMT
Everyone pays the new 90p facility fee. It's the "booking fee" that Panthers "absorb" for hockey games. www.panthers.co.uk/home/preseason-big-discounts"When season ticket holders add on games such as pre-season, Challenge Cup or extra league games they will NOT pay the new facility fee." So it's only ST holders that don't pay the fee? Everyone else does then it seems. So again, £16.90 for adults in Gold, £14.90 in Silver and £13.90 in bronze - which is what, £2-3 cheaper than a normal ticket?? Not a massive discount as they advertise is it? Out of interest, what were the prices for the CHL tickets? I have it in my head that they knocked them down to like £12?
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Post by Rob Scott on Jul 16, 2018 18:45:53 GMT
End of the day as always it’s peoples own decision whether they go or not. Same as POFW. For me personally if they had done £50 for all 5 for an adult and £25 for all 5 for a child then me and the boy would have gone to them all. As it is we won’t be going to any. Why? I don’t think the prices represent good value for pre season friendlies.
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 16, 2018 19:07:18 GMT
Posted on twitter by the arena in reply to someone questioning the fee.... This fee covers the cost of maintaining and improving our venue facilities. We want to provide the best possible experience to Panthers fans and the fees being charged will be invested in the purchase and maintenance of a fantastic new scoreboard next year. So... once upon a time, the arena (like all others) charged tickets at face value and added a 'booking fee' - a thinly-disguised way of skimming off a bit extra from the punters. This annoyed quite a lot of people for quite some time, until the arena finally 'did the decent thing' and dropped them for Panthers games. So now we have a 'facilities fee'... deja vu all over again?
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