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Post by jd on Jun 27, 2018 13:55:07 GMT
You might have a point IF YOU had contributed well to the thread......but you haven’t so please shut up ! No actually he has a perfectly valid point. The fact that you still bang on about Neilson every chance comes across as boarderline obsessive. Every flipping chance, its so predictable and boring now.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 27, 2018 14:14:24 GMT
I'm enjoying that people are jumping on Iginla for 'bringing up Corey every chance he gets' in a thread he hasn't once brought up Corey! Kind of ironic.
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Post by iginla on Jun 27, 2018 14:14:34 GMT
You might have a point IF YOU had contributed well to the thread......but you haven’t so please shut up ! No actually he has a perfectly valid point. The fact that you still bang on about Neilson every chance comes across as boarderline obsessive. Hey check the thread,it wasn’t me who started criticising Neilson !
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Post by iginla on Jun 27, 2018 14:17:35 GMT
I'm enjoying that people are jumping on Iginla for 'bringing up Corey every chance he gets' in a thread he hasn't once brought up Corey! Kind of ironic. Glad you said that thanks. I hadn’t seen your post before I responded. They try to criticise me for being obsessed with Neilson when it’s more like they’re obsessed with ME ! 🙄
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Post by Yotes on Jun 27, 2018 14:28:10 GMT
I'm enjoying that people are jumping on Iginla for 'bringing up Corey every chance he gets' in a thread he hasn't once brought up Corey! Kind of ironic. Hey check the thread,it wasn’t me who started criticising Neilson ! Not directly this time, but you'd get the first assist on it with your rhetorical question.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 27, 2018 14:41:54 GMT
I'm enjoying that people are jumping on Iginla for 'bringing up Corey every chance he gets' in a thread he hasn't once brought up Corey! Kind of ironic. Glad you said that thanks. I hadn’t seen your post before I responded. They try to criticise me for being obsessed with Neilson when it’s more like they’re obsessed with ME ! 🙄 It's not a defence . You love a good moan! It's more that people have a tendency to play the man and not the ball when it comes to you. In this analogy they seem to have scythed you down while you were nowhere near said ball!
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Post by shinobi on Jun 27, 2018 14:57:20 GMT
Glad you said that thanks. I hadn’t seen your post before I responded. They try to criticise me for being obsessed with Neilson when it’s more like they’re obsessed with ME ! 🙄 It's not a defence . You love a good moan! It's more that people have a tendency to play the man and not the ball when it comes to you. In this analogy they seem to have scythed you down while you were nowhere near said ball! As in sports, sometimes it comes down to reputation 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by iginla on Jun 27, 2018 15:32:01 GMT
Glad you said that thanks. I hadn’t seen your post before I responded. They try to criticise me for being obsessed with Neilson when it’s more like they’re obsessed with ME ! 🙄 It's not a defence . You love a good moan! It's more that people have a tendency to play the man and not the ball when it comes to you. In this analogy they seem to have scythed you down while you were nowhere near said ball! They’ll never scythe me down Kieran. And they’d miss me if I didn’t post. What would they all do without Iggy to try pick on. 🤣
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Post by tootootrain on Jun 27, 2018 16:30:26 GMT
Not directly this time, but you'd get the first assist on it with your rhetorical question. Is Neilson the only person who could 'gas' players? Wasnt there a belief that Shalla was gassed by Neil Black?
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Post by EMB on Jun 27, 2018 16:47:10 GMT
Neil Black has gassed a few people if you believe what the players say... Kowalski and Wiikmann to name but two.
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Post by Pies on Jun 27, 2018 17:01:32 GMT
It's not a defence . You love a good moan! It's more that people have a tendency to play the man and not the ball when it comes to you. In this analogy they seem to have scythed you down while you were nowhere near said ball! They’ll never scythe me down Kieran. And they’d miss me if I didn’t post. What would they all do without Iggy to try pick on. 🤣 Mine and the other mods life’s would certainly be easier In all seriousness, on topic please.
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Post by Yotes on Jun 27, 2018 17:19:28 GMT
Not directly this time, but you'd get the first assist on it with your rhetorical question. Is Neilson the only person who could 'gas' players? Wasnt there a belief that Shalla was gassed by Neil Black? I'd only heard that he forced Neilson to do something. Our current ITK says the coach is 100% in control of the playing staff.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 27, 2018 17:41:38 GMT
Is Neilson the only person who could 'gas' players? Wasnt there a belief that Shalla was gassed by Neil Black? I'd only heard that he forced Neilson to do something. Our current ITK says the coach is 100% in control of the playing staff. Where's Jord v4 when you need him?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 27, 2018 17:50:24 GMT
What needs addressing, peeps?
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Post by kievthegreat on Jun 27, 2018 18:44:12 GMT
Is Neilson the only person who could 'gas' players? Wasnt there a belief that Shalla was gassed by Neil Black? I'd only heard that he forced Neilson to do something. Our current ITK says the coach is 100% in control of the playing staff. What needs addressing, peeps? Does Neil Black ever gas players (or force Corey to), namely Josh Shalla? (I'm not counting Kwall and Miika because they are at the end of contracts and not renewed)
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 27, 2018 19:03:31 GMT
I'd only heard that he forced Neilson to do something. Our current ITK says the coach is 100% in control of the playing staff. What needs addressing, peeps? Does Neil Black ever gas players (or force Corey to), namely Josh Shalla? (I'm not counting Kwall and Miika because they are at the end of contracts and not renewed) He has override but in 'extreme circumstances', he's the owner after all. It was probably more a case of someone had to go to buck the squad up & Shalla was an obvious choice. I don't know for certain in this case though but knowing the very recent & current dynamic this makes the most sense. Rich has full control, as did Corey. GM has no/very very little player/squad involvement. NB has owner override but with a new coach I imagine this will be exercised far less frequently.
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Post by shinobi on Jun 27, 2018 19:29:03 GMT
So why did Black axe Kowalski & Wiikman?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 27, 2018 19:43:05 GMT
So why did Black axe Kowalski & Wiikman? Can you axe a player out of contract.... Or advise the HC it's time for a change.
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Post by shinobi on Jun 27, 2018 20:28:37 GMT
So why did Black axe Kowalski & Wiikman? Can you axe a player out of contract.... Or advise the HC it's time for a change. I never said Black did; I was referring to the post of EMB.
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Post by iginla on Jun 27, 2018 21:44:34 GMT
Neil Black has gassed a few people if you believe what the players say... Kowalski and Wiikmann to name but two. Mr Black has gassed players. He told Corey one year that either Galbraith or Zion had to go and the choice was Corey’s. I don’t know why that came about but Zion got the bullet !
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 27, 2018 21:49:52 GMT
Can you axe a player out of contract.... Or advise the HC it's time for a change. I never said Black did; I was referring to the post of EMB. If you believe what the players say was EMB's post. As far as I understand NB 'got involved' when he felt necessary to buck the squad up. Stepping if for a hesitant coach... Perhaps... Or maybe CN didn't like being the bad guy so placed the ultimate reasoning elsewhere. As for naming a specific player to be gassed... Seems unlikely imo. Providing a few options though, almost certainly.
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Post by iginla on Jun 27, 2018 22:23:29 GMT
I never said Black did; I was referring to the post of EMB. If you believe what the players say was EMB's post. As far as I understand NB 'got involved' when he felt necessary to buck the squad up. Stepping if for a hesitant coach... Perhaps... Or maybe CN didn't like being the bad guy so placed the ultimate reasoning elsewhere. As for naming a specific player to be gassed... Seems unlikely imo. Providing a few options though, almost certainly. This is where fan power comes in. If enough people get on a certain players back if he’s not cutting it then he’s in the firing line.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 28, 2018 9:22:14 GMT
If you believe what the players say was EMB's post. As far as I understand NB 'got involved' when he felt necessary to buck the squad up. Stepping if for a hesitant coach... Perhaps... Or maybe CN didn't like being the bad guy so placed the ultimate reasoning elsewhere. As for naming a specific player to be gassed... Seems unlikely imo. Providing a few options though, almost certainly. This is where fan power comes in. If enough people get on a certain players back if he’s not cutting it then he’s in the firing line. I think you give us fans too much credit.
Shalla was an clear underperformer, if anyone was to go at that time he was the obvious choice. If the then coach couldn't see that then he shouldn't have been in the role.
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Post by BigLad on Jun 28, 2018 12:38:41 GMT
What are you, the Forum Police?How about this. I won't tell you what to talk about and you don't tell me eh? Nope, I'm questioning why every other thread has to turn into a Corey bashing session? I'm not his biggest fan but I have respect for what he achieved as our coach, despite the last couple of seasons of domestic drudge. You might have a point IF YOU had contributed well to the thread......but you haven’t so please shut up! Unlike some, I have a life away from my keyboard and outside of this forum so am not bothered about posting regularly or spamming each thread with remark after remark. I do however like to read as much as I can when time allows and seeing this anti Corey stuff constantly spouted by a few people takes away from the actual subject of each thread, so much so sometimes that what is trying to be said gets lost in the mire. As for Derlago, showed promise when linked with Pither/Vaskivuo but was underwhelmed overall last season. But you could say that about the whole roster pretty much. Any more of our ex players in or headed to Denmark (Mosey excluded)? As a playing standard I think it's a step down from the EIHL although I guess things are run way more professionally over there. Plus Bacon.
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Post by tootootrain on Jun 28, 2018 17:19:54 GMT
Nope, I'm questioning why every other thread has to turn into a Corey bashing session? So it's actually "yes" then. As I said, you don't tell me what to post and I won't tell you, seems a fair enough compromise. If you can't cope with my posts though add me to your 'Foes' list, then you won't see them. I won't be offended because I don't seek your approval.
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