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Post by marshalfish on Jan 17, 2018 8:48:32 GMT
As another season ticket holder, I'm not entirely sure that I can be bothered to put in the effort to drive from Derbyshire to watch the team stuff it up again in the last couple of minutes. Trouble is, I worry that if I don't go once, I might then not care to go in the rest of the season. That then leaves me open to find something else to do on "hockey night," giving up my season ticket,and my wife's.
I'll check the results, even go occasionally, but the end result would be that eventually I will stop visiting the NIC. Well, Black may not care, but this is the way it's heading at the moment. Not going to shell out for cup and play-off tickets, especially when they are far from ensured of being there.Play-off weekend is great as a neutral, but only now and again. Year after year it is a little trying!
Please Mr Black, sort out this mess or flog the cash cow to someone who gives a damn.
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Post by shirtless on Jan 17, 2018 9:44:34 GMT
So panthers have played 5 against the devuls not including cups and friendlies.
W-1 L-4
13 goals scored for 21 goals conceded against
With 3 games left in conference/ league they can tie up the series and do something about the goal difference.
As for pp pk stats i do not have the time to post it but it goes without saying we have a much better chance at even strength against a devils side that is bang on form right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 11:23:22 GMT
Living in Sheffield makes it easier for me not to bother now. I've planned for 2 games now ..
My life certainly doesn't revolve round hockey like it used to .
The way this Panthers management operate has led me this way unfortunately
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 20, 2018 14:37:41 GMT
I'm a glutton for punishment so I'll be there. However it just dawned on me quite how little there is to play for. I've only just recently thought about play-off seedings and to get home advantage for the QF and there are 2 ways:
Conference: Conference winners are guaranteed home advantage. We have 9 game left to play and we're 9 points behind Belfast However Cardiff are only 4 points behind and have 3 games in hand on both of us.
League: If the league winners win their conference, the best team that doesn't win a conference gets 4th place (If league winners don't win their conference, then that conference winner will get between 2-4th seed and no other teams can get home advantage. We need to finish as the highest team not to win a conference which means beating 2 of either Sheffield (3pts, 1 game in hand), Belfast (10pts, 3 games in hand) and Cardiff (13 points, 1 game in hand) We also need to finish ahead of other teams, but these are the ones hardest to overcome points wise.
That's a mammoth task to overcome either of those whilst we're playing short.
PS. Odd situation, MK Lightning are currently 10th and 5 points off 8th, however they are only 1 point of the playoffs because they are second in their conference. Could have an awkward situation where a team finishes outside the leagues play-off places but ends up 3rd seed!
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Post by iginla on Jan 20, 2018 16:46:28 GMT
I'm a glutton for punishment so I'll be there. However it just dawned on me quite how little there is to play for. I've only just recently thought about play-off seedings and to get home advantage for the QF and there are 2 ways: Conference: Conference winners are guaranteed home advantage. We have 9 game left to play and we're 9 points behind Belfast However Cardiff are only 4 points behind and have 3 games in hand on both of us. League: If the league winners win their conference, the best team that doesn't win a conference gets 4th place (If league winners don't win their conference, then that conference winner will get between 2-4th seed and no other teams can get home advantage. We need to finish as the highest team not to win a conference which means beating 2 of either Sheffield (3pts, 1 game in hand), Belfast (10pts, 3 games in hand) and Cardiff (13 points, 1 game in hand) We also need to finish ahead of other teams, but these are the ones hardest to overcome points wise. That's a mammoth task to overcome either of those whilst we're playing short. PS. Odd situation, MK Lightning are currently 10th and 5 points off 8th, however they are only 1 point of the playoffs because they are second in their conference. Could have an awkward situation where a team finishes outside the leagues play-off places but ends up 3rd seed! Basically,we aren't getting home advantage in the play off quarter final. Which will please Moran and Black no end,because then they will get the Saturday night home game 1st leg. Having said that,even if we had got the choice of home advantage,they would still have thrown away 2nd leg home advantage and still had the Saturday night game just for the bigger crowd. Another classic case of Panthers not doing all they can to win !
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Post by John Casey on Jan 20, 2018 17:15:44 GMT
I maybe wrong but I think the place you finish in the league is your play off seeding. Basically it doesn't matter if you win your conference, you won't get a higher seeding.
I believe it was the only concession that the Scottish teams gave up for having the 3 groups of 4.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 20, 2018 17:19:53 GMT
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Post by ted logan on Jan 20, 2018 17:33:07 GMT
Yay I’m on the way to the game!
Can hardly contain my excitement!
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Post by shinobi on Jan 20, 2018 17:46:48 GMT
Yay I’m on the way to the game! Can hardly contain my excitement! Have some shots for me as but elected not to attend.
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Post by iginla on Jan 20, 2018 17:55:45 GMT
Yay I’m on the way to the game! Can hardly contain my excitement! Have some shots for me as but elected not to attend. And have some shots for me too,cos i ain't going either.
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Post by iginla on Jan 20, 2018 18:01:17 GMT
League winner is No1 seed then the two other conference winners get No2 and No3. Then it's league position I think,so 2nd in league could become No 4 seed,which seems rather unfair.
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Post by spik on Jan 20, 2018 18:35:54 GMT
I'm a glutton for punishment so I'll be there. However it just dawned on me quite how little there is to play for. I've only just recently thought about play-off seedings and to get home advantage for the QF and there are 2 ways: Conference: Conference winners are guaranteed home advantage. We have 9 game left to play and we're 9 points behind Belfast However Cardiff are only 4 points behind and have 3 games in hand on both of us. League: If the league winners win their conference, the best team that doesn't win a conference gets 4th place (If league winners don't win their conference, then that conference winner will get between 2-4th seed and no other teams can get home advantage. We need to finish as the highest team not to win a conference which means beating 2 of either Sheffield (3pts, 1 game in hand), Belfast (10pts, 3 games in hand) and Cardiff (13 points, 1 game in hand) We also need to finish ahead of other teams, but these are the ones hardest to overcome points wise. That's a mammoth task to overcome either of those whilst we're playing short. PS. Odd situation, MK Lightning are currently 10th and 5 points off 8th, however they are only 1 point of the playoffs because they are second in their conference. Could have an awkward situation where a team finishes outside the leagues play-off places but ends up 3rd seed! Terrible isn't it. Great work on this dilemma kievthegreat. This is how it's now got out of hand.
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Post by iginla on Jan 20, 2018 19:32:37 GMT
I'm a glutton for punishment so I'll be there. However it just dawned on me quite how little there is to play for. I've only just recently thought about play-off seedings and to get home advantage for the QF and there are 2 ways: Conference: Conference winners are guaranteed home advantage. We have 9 game left to play and we're 9 points behind Belfast However Cardiff are only 4 points behind and have 3 games in hand on both of us. League: If the league winners win their conference, the best team that doesn't win a conference gets 4th place (If league winners don't win their conference, then that conference winner will get between 2-4th seed and no other teams can get home advantage. We need to finish as the highest team not to win a conference which means beating 2 of either Sheffield (3pts, 1 game in hand), Belfast (10pts, 3 games in hand) and Cardiff (13 points, 1 game in hand) We also need to finish ahead of other teams, but these are the ones hardest to overcome points wise. That's a mammoth task to overcome either of those whilst we're playing short. PS. Odd situation, MK Lightning are currently 10th and 5 points off 8th, however they are only 1 point of the playoffs because they are second in their conference. Could have an awkward situation where a team finishes outside the leagues play-off places but ends up 3rd seed! Terrible isn't it. Great work on this dilemma kievthegreat. This is how it's now got out of hand. Yep who was it who reckoned this league wasn't fixed,or at least massaged to suit the other teams ? You put in a decent league challenge and finish 2nd and get bumped down a few seedlings....whilst a lesser team finishes 4th or 5th and gets bumped up to No2 or No3. Mmmmm.....Right O. 🙄🙄
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Post by Yotes on Jan 20, 2018 19:40:38 GMT
4-0 after 1.
Very reminiscent of the game last year.
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Post by fishman on Jan 20, 2018 19:42:50 GMT
AS CN got a few ringers in, very difficult to see who's under the helmet sometimes!!!!!!!!
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Post by Dharcy on Jan 20, 2018 19:43:22 GMT
Wow, 4-0 to the Panthers. For real? Are people finally afraid of losing their jobs? That would be grand.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jan 20, 2018 19:43:44 GMT
Shouldn't the posst preceding the last 3 be in another thread?s
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Post by John Casey on Jan 20, 2018 19:46:38 GMT
Panthers have out shot them 17-5 also got to the rebounds.
This was the perfect period.
Don't change a thing, whatever was said beforehand is working
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 20, 2018 19:49:26 GMT
Where have these lot been. Can’t remember the last time I saw Panthers play with so much confidence. Have to keep the pressure on for the rest of the game and not repeat the mistake of sitting back and trying to defend the lead
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Post by dill1015 on Jan 20, 2018 19:49:33 GMT
Can see us losing this.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 20, 2018 19:52:06 GMT
Have some shots for me as but elected not to attend. And have some shots for me too,cos i ain't going either. Will do guys. In all seriousness, as much as I enjoyed that period, it leaves me with a feeling of frustration as to what might have been. We’ve no doubt got a bad period on us though as usual so even at 4-0 it could still be a bumpy ride.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 20, 2018 20:31:16 GMT
4-1 after 2.
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Post by Dharcy on Jan 20, 2018 20:58:39 GMT
And have some shots for me too,cos i ain't going either. Will do guys. In all seriousness, as much as I enjoyed that period, it leaves me with a feeling of frustration as to what might have been. We’ve no doubt got a bad period on us though as usual so even at 4-0 it could still be a bumpy ride. Yes, what might have been. The frustration is that since December we never know which Panthers team would turn up. We clearly lack consistency. Key questions to ask 1) why is this so?, 2) Why does it keep repeating (Yes, us supporters have noticed it for few seasons now!) 3) How to stop it? Basic questions people! Us supporters don't want to lose interest, nor stop supporting, but the team management has been letting us down, repeatedly.
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Post by shinobi on Jan 20, 2018 21:23:16 GMT
6-4 Panthers
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Post by dp on Jan 20, 2018 21:26:24 GMT
Will do guys. In all seriousness, as much as I enjoyed that period, it leaves me with a feeling of frustration as to what might have been. We’ve no doubt got a bad period on us though as usual so even at 4-0 it could still be a bumpy ride. Yes, what might have been. The frustration is that since December we never know which Panthers team would turn up. We clearly lack consistency. Key questions to ask 1) why is this so?, 2) Why does it keep repeating (Yes, us supporters have noticed it for few seasons now!) 3) How to stop it? Basic questions people! Us supporters don't want to lose interest, nor stop supporting, but the team management has been letting us down, repeatedly. I'm sorry but our form hasn't lacked consistency at all - it's been very consistent. It's not like we're winning 7-0 and then losing 7-0 the next game. We're generally just losing - pretty consistently.
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