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Post by newham on Feb 23, 2007 22:26:55 GMT
Ok, to re-word my post: Can someone please explain to me the logic behind handing a bigger ban for throwing a helmet at nobody than threatening a referee? Because the referee didnt feel he was threatened. Once a piece of equipment leaves your hand its liable to hit anyone/anything. 1) The ref flinched, you seen the vid? 2) If thrown at someone yes, this was just flung back onto the ice, there was nobody at all near it.
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Post by gazzathedevil on Feb 23, 2007 23:15:03 GMT
Because the referee didnt feel he was threatened. Once a piece of equipment leaves your hand its liable to hit anyone/anything. 1) The ref flinched, you seen the vid? 2) If thrown at someone yes, this was just flung back onto the ice, there was nobody at all near it. 1) if the referee's report stated that the referee felt threatened then there would have been more banned games. The ref's report and the video is what is reviewed. and Kirkham being a former ref himself would have dished out more punishment if he deemed fit. 2) once a piece of equipment is thrown it could go anywhere.
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Post by Mark on Feb 24, 2007 1:20:10 GMT
It's easy to sort out. One of the Panthers players waves his stick in the ref's face tomorrow and we all sit back and see what the outcome is.
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Post by Shaggy on Feb 24, 2007 8:53:11 GMT
It's easy to sort out. One of the Panthers players waves his stick in the ref's face tomorrow and we all sit back and see what the outcome is. Simple - 5 game ban.
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Post by spik on Feb 24, 2007 9:26:34 GMT
What happened to discretion?
'He threw a helmet to the other side of the rink' or 'He threw the helmet in my direction/at me' thus making a report on that one rather than 'it's a 3 game ban.
I'm not against how many Pims WE Panthers get. It's just the un-uniformity of handing out bans.
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Post by dodit on Feb 24, 2007 10:32:34 GMT
It ridiculous he only get a 1 game ban. I agree shmyr got 3 games because of league rules but ndur did far more wrong but the league is saying that you can threaten a ref and league says that its alright, now if shmyr did it he would probably get a 5 game ban or something.
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Post by DaveE on Feb 24, 2007 11:35:14 GMT
I believe this ban is completely stupid. A 1 match ban doesn't warrant what he did
I did not see the incedent on the night, however I saw it the following day on EMT. The fact of the matter is that Ndur waves his stick in the direction of Carson's face quite rapidly at one point causing Carson to flinch and then move back.
I'm sorry but how can anyone not feel threatened at that point, especially as it has been quoted that his language was far from Queens English. What I want to know is that was the words said directed at Carson himself. Wigwam?
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Post by jaycourtney on Feb 24, 2007 11:39:20 GMT
See the hypocrites are doing their bussiness......Rubbish. Throwing your helmet=3 match ban going to spear a ref= one match ban
Baffles me although it is like the British justice syestem= full of injustice.
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Post by lps on Feb 24, 2007 11:52:45 GMT
I understand that the Shmyr ban was already in the rules, however if you feel the 1 game ban for Ndur was too lenient, then do what I have done. Send an email to the EIHL to let them know that you are unhappy with the discipline procedures in the league this year. You can contact the EIHL on the link at this site www.eliteleague.co.uk/I indicated that I saw the incident live and on video afterwards and cannot understand how the league can not see the incident as being threatening, yet see a helmet thrown onto the ice ending 20 feet away from any official as a more serious offense. At least this way they know what we feel. I don't expect a response, but at least I have let the powers know that I was not happy.
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Post by jaycourtney on Feb 24, 2007 11:57:50 GMT
people have tried to contact them. but they never reply or probally read the emails. too me its these guys that are pushing fans away from the rinks with their conistant shoddy rule changes.
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Post by grumpyminer on Feb 24, 2007 12:02:48 GMT
Just gonna jump on the roundabout that this thread has become but only to say.............does it really matter now!!!
Ryan has completed his suspension and we won't see Coventry again.......except if we meet in the play-offs.
FWIW I think it was more a gesture with the stick rather than a threat to Carson......and surely the disciplinary "board" have seen the video.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2007 12:03:44 GMT
maybe the league thought it was fair to give i one match ban to make up for carsons ballsup on the final goal and to even it up for your 11 IMPORTS
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Post by maxfax on Feb 24, 2007 12:06:20 GMT
maybe the league thought it was fair to give i one match ban to make up for carsons ballsup on the final goal and to even it up for your 11 IMPORTS Balls up? Care to back that up with something other than it was unfair coz it was the Blaze, type of attitude? I shall not hold my breath!
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Post by jaycourtney on Feb 24, 2007 12:06:23 GMT
maybe the league thought it was fair to give i one match ban to make up for carsons ballsup on the final goal and to even it up for your 11 IMPORTS Carson runied it for you? I thought it was your netminder for not controlling the puck
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Post by Nemesis on Feb 24, 2007 12:06:39 GMT
Nice intro Blaze, I can already tell you are going to fit in well here and have many friends!!
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Post by Mark on Feb 24, 2007 12:08:32 GMT
maybe the league thought it was fair to give i one match ban to make up for carsons ballsup on the final goal and to even it up for your 11 IMPORTS Sure that shouldn't be blazeoneeye? You lost fair and square, get over it. Probably best if you didn't believe everything coming from the vast cavern that is Simm's mouth. That way lies madness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2007 12:13:26 GMT
maybe the league thought it was fair to give i one match ban to make up for carsons ballsup on the final goal and to even it up for your 11 IMPORTS Carson runied it for you? I thought it was your netminder for not controlling the puck The the other 2 balls ups he made on the other goals, apart from that Koenig had a good game ;D
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Post by Nemesis on Feb 24, 2007 12:44:22 GMT
maybe the league thought it was fair to give i one match ban to make up for carsons ballsup on the final goal and to even it up for your 11 IMPORTS Sure that shouldn't be blazeoneeye? You lost fair and square, get over it. Probably best if you didn't believe everything coming from the vast cavern that is Simm's mouth. That way lies madness. As far as I can see Dave has made no comment on this subject Mark, why would he comment on a Blaze matter?? Not even a mention in this weeks Powerplay, in which I have the front page lead and feature article BTW
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2007 13:00:24 GMT
r well you might make 4th in the league
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Post by mortimershoals on Feb 24, 2007 13:05:16 GMT
r well you might make 4th in the league and you might be able to catch the Billy Goats Gruff if you stayed under your bridge long enough.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2007 13:06:10 GMT
r well you might make 4th in the league Mods, ban this idiot
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Post by maxfax on Feb 24, 2007 13:06:15 GMT
r well you might make 4th in the league
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2007 13:23:42 GMT
why would they want to ban me is the truth hurting
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Post by maxfax on Feb 24, 2007 13:30:52 GMT
Here's a novel idea for ya blazeredeye. Why not post something we can all discuss & debate, why not make sensible posts, instead of embarrasing yourself, your team, your fanbase, & city? Just an idea!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2007 13:33:23 GMT
Here's a novel idea for ya blazeredeye. Why not post something we can all discuss & debate, why not make sensible posts, instead of embarrasing yourself, your team, your fanbase, & city? Just an idea! Give the guy a break wiggy, hes obviously just graduated from nursery . He obviously doesn t know any better, but with their fanbase, hes never on his own
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