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Post by Big Popper on Sept 3, 2017 14:45:54 GMT
Where's the national news coverage? I've looked through Sky Sports, BBC sport and national newspapers. There's nothing. We've arguably pulled off one of the greatest upsets in European ice hockey not once but three times now and there's nothing out there. Shouldn't the club be shouting this from the rafters of the NIC or even the EIHL. This is the best publicity British ice hockey could get and as far as I can see it's being ignored.
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Post by ted logan on Sept 3, 2017 15:12:09 GMT
Ridiculous state of affairs.
Look at some of the other sports that get coverage from sky on their frontline sports channels. WWE!!!!! Not even a sport it's a frigging scripted pantomime!!!
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Post by kezypanther on Sept 3, 2017 15:16:00 GMT
I totally agree. I have just tweeted sky sports news and I think others should do this to. Shameful really especially as mentioned they cover WWE!!¿¿
Maybe we could try get it shared:
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 3, 2017 15:28:06 GMT
Because nobody gives a toss about anything other than bloody football...
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Post by Big Popper on Sept 3, 2017 16:27:04 GMT
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Post by sevcik on Sept 3, 2017 16:30:56 GMT
Because nobody gives a toss about anything other than bloody football... Exactly. The simple minded amongst the media and elsewhere can't comprehend any other sport existing other than football & Sky won't put it on their news programming for no other reason than they don't have the TV rights to the CHL or the EIHL. Let's be honest it isn't the 1st time. When GB got promoted earlier this year there was no publicity out of that in the media either. Still a decent publicity person at team GB/IHUK might have helped in that instance... |
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 3, 2017 17:18:57 GMT
Because nobody gives a toss about anything other than bloody football... Exactly. The simple minded amongst the media and elsewhere can't comprehend any other sport existing other than football & Sky won't put it on their news programming for no other reason than they don't have the TV rights to the CHL or the EIHL. Let's be honest it isn't the 1st time. When GB got promoted earlier this year there was no publicity out of that in the media either. Still a decent publicity person at team GB/IHUK might have helped in that instance... This is the reason sky don't do it for sure. If anybody thinks Sky Sports are providing information simply based on what should be news they are very nieve. Sky Sports News is a 24 hour advert for the sports it covers. Did you ever see them report on Hurling before this year? Did you ek! Ooh suddenly they are showing live games and now it's news worthy. To be honest, with Sky and any other commercial media business I kind of get it. They are there to make money so they push wjat generates it for them. The BBC on the other hand is a different story. Of course they still have to gennerate money, however they have more of an obligation to cover whatever is News. Last night certainly deserves way more than it's had. Sad, but we will have to be happy with the fact that those who know hockey know how big it was. |
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Post by PantherB on Sept 3, 2017 18:01:42 GMT
It's a shame but it doesn't surprise me.
We'll more than likely see a good segment on EMT tomorrow, which is much better than nothing. Colin Hazelden who's the sports reporter is a fan of the Panthers, attends games quite often and I know last Friday he was really bigging Panthers up.
Panthers/EIHL need to utilize the local media for each team to assist growth. If Panthers could get BBC EMT to mention them, show highlights clip each week with the show potentially going live on Facebook etc.. during/before/after the big games, that'd be a great way to expand the outreach.
There's Chris Ellis too, he's the reason we're on the BBC website and he's a Panthers fan obviously. Need to utilize his links within the BBC. Seth Bennett too, I know he's stepped away from the Ice Hockey to take a job elsewhere within sports but he's a fan, reported on Ice Hockey from the EIHL to the Olympics.
Then there's all the other sports reporters for each teams local news.
There must be hundreds of people within the media profession who are a fan of an EIHL team and ice hockey. Sounds a bit far fetched but surely the league could hold some kind of meeting with all these journalists and reporters, have them collectively discuss ways of getting the sport more attention and set goals to achieve etc.. a 1 minute slot on the local news is a big step forward compared to the usual 5-10 second 'Meanwhile, Panthers beat ___ at the NIC on Saturday'. After all, it is the reporters who know what gets airtime, how it gets airtime and why etc..
Panthers/other clubs need to push to get themselves some airtime too. Stick Corey and Lee, and an import on EMT to discuss the accomplishments of the last week or so.
The League needs to step up its commercial aspect too, it surely cannot be as difficult as they're making out to get a reputable title sponsor. Devils got Peacocks, Storm managed to get Tesco. They're household names. I bet as soon as the league gets to a point where there is decent money coming in, the media will pay It more attention.
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Post by iginla on Sept 3, 2017 19:23:59 GMT
Coverage and exposure is just terrible i agree.
The win against Bern was an absolutely massive achievement.
Unfortunately though,it does help rather a lot,if you have a GM who hasn't either naffed off,virtually cut off,or fallen out with various factions of the local media ! 😐🙄
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Post by thebestpanthers on Sept 3, 2017 20:03:09 GMT
Unfortunately this win has come at the same time as Notts win in the T20 Cup - both were featured today on EMTV but cricket got the major slice - Agree that the club should be doing more to promote the club on local media - feel like we are just a fill-in at times - probably get a couple of lines in the EP but will not hold my breath
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Sept 3, 2017 20:07:18 GMT
It's crazy... the NFL now have a weekly show on the BBC yet how many people in the U.K. actually go watch American Football regularly?
There's the annual game at Wembley but that's 90,000 max and full of 'fans' who care more about being wannabe-yanks & probably couldn't name 5 NFLers for their life... I looked at the English league and looking at Sheffield Giants for perspective I bet their happy if the man walking his dog in the park stops to watch!
If the Edinburgh Wolves ever got a crowd the size that the Capitals get, they'd get stage fright!
Don't get me wrong, NFL is a cool & sexy thing for people to say they watch and I'm sure viewing figures are decent... but when Ice Hockey in the U.K. gets the crowds it does and is now up competing with Swiss, Czech & German hockey then why are the BBC ignoring it??
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Post by Caesar on Sept 3, 2017 20:19:14 GMT
It's crazy... the NFL now have a weekly show on the BBC yet how many people in the U.K. actually go watch American Football regularly? There's the annual game at Wembley but that's 90,000 max and full of 'fans' who care more about being wannabe-yanks & probably couldn't name 5 NFLers for their life... I looked at the English league and looking at Sheffield Giants for perspective I bet their happy if the man walking his dog in the park stops to watch! If the Edinburgh Wolves ever got a crowd the size that the Capitals get, they'd get stage fright! Don't get me wrong, NFL is a cool & sexy thing for people to say they watch and I'm sure viewing figures are decent... but when Ice Hockey in the U.K. gets the crowds it does and is now up competing with Swiss, Czech & German hockey then why are the BBC ignoring it?? Youd be surprised at the state of American Football in this country. Its far too deep to get into on a post on here but if you'd like to meet up for a pint one day then id love to tell you about it. Im not disagreeing with your point about the hockey vs football coverage, i actually agree. But, American Football is an amateur sport in this country. Players dont get paid to play, we actually pay to play |
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Post by kezypanther on Sept 3, 2017 20:52:21 GMT
Interesting comment at the end there by Corey: "I had an agent telling me during the summer he wasn't going to send a player to us as we were the 13th-ranked league in the world, I would just love to call him at this moment." This again proves to me the significance of EIHL teams doing well in competitions like this. |
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Post by iginla on Sept 3, 2017 21:12:03 GMT
Unfortunately this win has come at the same time as Notts win in the T20 Cup - both were featured today on EMTV but cricket got the major slice - Agree that the club should be doing more to promote the club on local media - feel like we are just a fill-in at times - probably get a couple of lines in the EP but will not hold my breath You won't get much of interest in the Evening post these days,because GM has virtually cut them off. That's why there was a fairly damning article in there recently about the "Trust". #payback |
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Post by iginla on Sept 3, 2017 21:17:00 GMT
Interesting comment at the end there by Corey: "I had an agent telling me during the summer he wasn't going to send a player to us as we were the 13th-ranked league in the world, I would just love to call him at this moment." This again proves to me the significance of EIHL teams doing well in competitions like this. If i was Corey I'd ring that agent tomorrow ! There was another guy the first time we entered the CHL who was either an agent or similar who tweeted something like "why the heck are they in it,they're going to get crushed" ! #yesmate |
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Post by Big Popper on Sept 4, 2017 7:03:28 GMT
Interesting comment at the end there by Corey: "I had an agent telling me during the summer he wasn't going to send a player to us as we were the 13th-ranked league in the world, I would just love to call him at this moment." This again proves to me the significance of EIHL teams doing well in competitions like this. If i was Corey I'd ring that agent tomorrow ! There was another guy the first time we entered the CHL who was either an agent or similar who tweeted something like "why the heck are they in it,they're going to get crushed" ! #yesmate So, is this something that the trust can pursue. Should we be taking up the mantle here? After all the trust is for the betterment and advancement of ice hockey in Nottingham. |
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Post by brodeurfan1993 on Sept 4, 2017 8:32:25 GMT
If i was Corey I'd ring that agent tomorrow ! There was another guy the first time we entered the CHL who was either an agent or similar who tweeted something like "why the heck are they in it,they're going to get crushed" ! #yesmate So, is this something that the trust can pursue. Should we be taking up the mantle here? After all the trust is for the betterment and advancement of ice hockey in Nottingham. Sorry what? The trust has no business in communicating with player agents. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 8:52:06 GMT
When you don't even get people like Simmsy mentioning/congratulating Panthers making history what chance do you have of the local/national media ?
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Post by Peacock on Sept 4, 2017 10:32:12 GMT
Unfortunately this win has come at the same time as Notts win in the T20 Cup - both were featured today on EMTV but cricket got the major slice - Agree that the club should be doing more to promote the club on local media - feel like we are just a fill-in at times - probably get a couple of lines in the EP but will not hold my breath You won't get much of interest in the Evening post these days,because GM has virtually cut them off. That's why there was a fairly damning article in there recently about the "Trust". #payback I think you're doing Matt Davies a massive disservice there. There are regular Panthers articles in the Nottingham Post (20 artilcles since 1st pre-season game) and regular posts on Facebook/Twitter if you're on there. It's the National media outlets where we really struggle to get coverage. |
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Post by dexter on Sept 4, 2017 12:08:03 GMT
Hmm, well just read the EP and we only got a pretty miserable few paragraphs at the bottom of a page!
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Post by iginla on Sept 4, 2017 12:37:15 GMT
You won't get much of interest in the Evening post these days,because GM has virtually cut them off. That's why there was a fairly damning article in there recently about the "Trust". #payback I think you're doing Matt Davies a massive disservice there. There are regular Panthers articles in the Nottingham Post (20 artilcles since 1st pre-season game) and regular posts on Facebook/Twitter if you're on there. It's the National media outlets where we really struggle to get coverage. What I meant by "much of interest" is,anything out of they ordinary with player quotes,unknown stories,different slants etc etc. All that seems to come out in the Evening Post these days is a bog standard write up of the latest match. That's not Matt Davies fault,it's down to GM not giving him any inside info or much if any access to players etc because they've fallen out ! |
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Sept 5, 2017 20:13:22 GMT
It's crazy... the NFL now have a weekly show on the BBC yet how many people in the U.K. actually go watch American Football regularly? There's the annual game at Wembley but that's 90,000 max and full of 'fans' who care more about being wannabe-yanks & probably couldn't name 5 NFLers for their life... I looked at the English league and looking at Sheffield Giants for perspective I bet their happy if the man walking his dog in the park stops to watch! If the Edinburgh Wolves ever got a crowd the size that the Capitals get, they'd get stage fright! Don't get me wrong, NFL is a cool & sexy thing for people to say they watch and I'm sure viewing figures are decent... but when Ice Hockey in the U.K. gets the crowds it does and is now up competing with Swiss, Czech & German hockey then why are the BBC ignoring it?? Youd be surprised at the state of American Football in this country. Its far too deep to get into on a post on here but if you'd like to meet up for a pint one day then id love to tell you about it. Im not disagreeing with your point about the hockey vs football coverage, i actually agree. But, American Football is an amateur sport in this country. Players dont get paid to play, we actually pay to play I'm sure I would be surprised and to be fair there is obviously a good core of proper fans which means the programme the BBC produce is warranted. I think a lot of that is a self-fulfilling prophecy, NFL gets shown on TV, gets more awareness, gets more regular viewers. I have friends who are part of NFL supporters clubs in the U.K. which by looking at their bases shows it's not a minority. The NHL has never had such coverage in the U.K. however... Yet we have a thriving, fully professional league getting attendances for some teams that easily outdo SHL, Liiga even KHL teams. Does ice hockey translate well onto TV? Maybe not as good as sports with bigger playing surfaces or balls. But now with HD pretty standard, the old worry that you can never see the puck is well gone. We have the highest attended indoor UK sport and how annoying can it be when the 'British Broadcasting Corporation' funded by us the public broadcast full Sunday afternoons of indoor bowls or weeks of snooker. Again, nothing against either sport and from experience they're both fun to play... but more Brits pay to watch ice hockey each week! |
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Post by iginla on Sept 5, 2017 20:38:09 GMT
Can never understand this funding lark for some sports.
Why do they get funding,yet ice hockey gets nothing ?
I mean....
Basketball £4.7 million 😳
Handball £1.3 million 😳😳
What on earth is handball ?
And as for basketball,not exactly popular or exciting is it ! 🙄
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Post by Yotes on Sept 5, 2017 20:45:57 GMT
Basketball isn't popular? I don't like it but it's played all over, hockey isn't.
I thought we didn't get funding because of how dysfunctional the whole setup was. Hence Grieveson (sp?) trying to sort it out.
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 5, 2017 22:54:32 GMT
Can never understand this funding lark for some sports. Why do they get funding,yet ice hockey gets nothing ? I mean.... Basketball £4.7 million 😳 Handball £1.3 million 😳😳 British ice hockey gets naff-all funding because it is a disorganised, faction-ridden mess:- - You have the high-and-mighty EIHL which rests on its laurels as the 'top level' of the sport in this country, and will barely pass the time of day with anyone else. Way to go in helping to make the sport sustainable... - You have the blazer-brigade of the EIHA who are so up their own backsides that they just do whatever the hell they like and won't listen to anything Not Invented Here(TM) - just look where that's got them... what's that disappearing down the toilet? oh yes, the English Premier League! - You've got the SIHA, which hardly anyone outside of Scotland (and most people inside of it!) even seems to be aware of. - And then you've got IHUK, which is nominally in charge of the whole mess... and to whom virtually nobody pays any attention whatsoever, poor sods. I mean... would YOU just hand over loads of dosh to this bunch of misfits? |
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