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Post by NickThePanther44 on Aug 15, 2017 15:36:21 GMT
...I haven't heard anyone yet who has had much good to say about the Guildford line-up... Brian Stewart. He can win them the game on his own as he did against us for the Blaze numerous times. Unfortunately I doubt he will be enough. They lack firepower, size and toughness. And when I say lack I mean they're incredibly short of the first and totally void of the latter two. Stewart doesn't cope well with a bit of argy bargy and he's going to see a lot of it this season. Teams will quickly figure out that they can wind him up with pretty much zero chance of any retribution. Guildford Flames will be this coming season's London Racers. I hope I'm wrong but I highly doubt it. |
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Post by PantherB on Aug 15, 2017 15:36:59 GMT
Genuinely feel like Sauvé could be the stud defenceman we've been missing for a long time. I'll be surprised if he doesn't get poached mid-season. What is the exact situation with visas? Am i right in thinking there are two variations, a short term (3 months) one and a full year one that takes a lot longer to arrange? My worry is that the quick turnaround from signing to arrival means the former Without looking I'm not too sure, I'm sure there will be a short and long term variation but I do remember that more often than not the Visa will be granted for the period of time disclosed on the Certificate of Sponsorship (Contract details basically) plus 1 month. It does seem strange that he's in so quickly compared to other North Americans in the past. Only explanations would surely be EU Passport or as you've suggested, a short stay Visa. Really hope it's not a short term stay, can't see him being much else but a stud! |
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Post by nate24 on Aug 15, 2017 15:54:13 GMT
What is the exact situation with visas? Am i right in thinking there are two variations, a short term (3 months) one and a full year one that takes a lot longer to arrange? My worry is that the quick turnaround from signing to arrival means the former Without looking I'm not too sure, I'm sure there will be a short and long term variation but I do remember that more often than not the Visa will be granted for the period of time disclosed on the Certificate of Sponsorship (Contract details basically) plus 1 month. It does seem strange that he's in so quickly compared to other North Americans in the past. Only explanations would surely be EU Passport or as you've suggested, a short stay Visa. Really hope it's not a short term stay, can't see him being much else but a stud! My worry is he's too much of a stud. If he performs well he could well take a contract in a bigger and better league. The cynic in me wonders if this is a short term deal to showcase his talents whilst giving us a boost to start the season and he may sign for longer if no other offers come in. I like the guy but something seems a little off. |
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Post by PantherB on Aug 15, 2017 16:01:52 GMT
Without looking I'm not too sure, I'm sure there will be a short and long term variation but I do remember that more often than not the Visa will be granted for the period of time disclosed on the Certificate of Sponsorship (Contract details basically) plus 1 month. It does seem strange that he's in so quickly compared to other North Americans in the past. Only explanations would surely be EU Passport or as you've suggested, a short stay Visa. Really hope it's not a short term stay, can't see him being much else but a stud! My worry is he's too much of a stud. If he performs well he could well take a contract in a bigger and better league. The cynic in me wonders if this is a short term deal to showcase his talents whilst giving us a boost to start the season and he may sign for longer if no other offers come in. I like the guy but something seems a little off. Agreed, to go from starting in the KHL last season, and finishing the season by helping his team with the DEL Playoffs.. Almost too good to be true that he's actually signed with us. |
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Post by sevcik on Aug 15, 2017 16:04:23 GMT
What is the exact situation with visas? Am i right in thinking there are two variations, a short term (3 months) one and a full year one that takes a lot longer to arrange? My worry is that the quick turnaround from signing to arrival means the former Without looking I'm not too sure, I'm sure there will be a short and long term variation but I do remember that more often than not the Visa will be granted for the period of time disclosed on the Certificate of Sponsorship (Contract details basically) plus 1 month. It does seem strange that he's in so quickly compared to other North Americans in the past. Only explanations would surely be EU Passport or as you've suggested, a short stay Visa. Really hope it's not a short term stay, can't see him being much else but a stud! As I understand it on a short stay visa a player does not have his biometrics done. Therefore he can pretty much fly into the UK straight away - just like Jason Robinson and Mark Lee did. This is why some canadian/American/ Non EU players that are signed February time fly in pretty much straight away. A player who is signed for the whole season - 9 months or so has to have biometrics done amongst other things hence the minimum 2/3 week delay before they can fly into the country.... |
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Post by wgray on Aug 15, 2017 17:02:32 GMT
Sauve is exactly what we need, Corey doesn't need to look elsewhere for a player because we've got what we need in him, Mr Black also said that there would be no short term deals for the CHL. Then again he's said a lot of things which haven't materialised...
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Post by PantherB on Aug 15, 2017 17:11:34 GMT
Without looking I'm not too sure, I'm sure there will be a short and long term variation but I do remember that more often than not the Visa will be granted for the period of time disclosed on the Certificate of Sponsorship (Contract details basically) plus 1 month. It does seem strange that he's in so quickly compared to other North Americans in the past. Only explanations would surely be EU Passport or as you've suggested, a short stay Visa. Really hope it's not a short term stay, can't see him being much else but a stud! As I understand it on a short stay visa a player does not have his biometrics done. Therefore he can pretty much fly into the UK straight away - just like Jason Robinson and Mark Lee did. This is why some canadian/American/ Non EU players that are signed February time fly in pretty much straight away. A player who is signed for the whole season - 9 months or so has to have biometrics done amongst other things hence the minimum 2/3 week delay before they can fly into the country.... Could be a case of cheating the system maybe, make it short term initially and then look to extend it if Sauvé wants to stay? |
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Post by wgray on Aug 15, 2017 17:12:55 GMT
Corey also stated after Sauve's signing was announced that ''We’ve been patient and we’ve got what we wanted'' it would be a strange comment to make if he was then going to look at getting someone else to replace him.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 15, 2017 17:16:44 GMT
Corey also stated after Sauve's signing was announced that ''We’ve been patient and we’ve got what we wanted'' it would be a strange comment to make if he was then going to look at getting someone else to replace him. Hopefully that won't happen but it's a risk with any good player. We've seen it before and with Sauve or others we will see it again. We don't know when one went to paper to allow the visa process but for it to be done so quickly seems odd. I don't think he was signed too long ago though as this is the jidna player who sells season tickets and panthers wouldn't of passed up the opportunity to use him for that purpose. |
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Post by Yotes on Aug 15, 2017 17:24:58 GMT
Could be a case of cheating the system maybe, make it short term initially and then look to extend it if Sauvé wants to stay? Could well be, get him in in time for the CHL and then work it out. Seem to remember with Robinson that the talk was he had to return to Canada to apply for the full permit, so I suppose we may see that. Hopefully that won't happen but it's a risk with any good player. We've seen it before and with Sauve or others we will see it again. Agree, if he turns out to be too good and gets snapped up by better leagues, so be it. As you say, it's always the risk at our level. I'd rather have a good player for a limited time than a donkey for the whole season  |
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Post by dp on Aug 15, 2017 17:43:41 GMT
One thing though, if he was on a 3 month visa, surely Panthers wouldn't use up a few weeks of that time with pre-season? They'd get him in as late as possible to maximise the number of games he plays wouldn't they?
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Post by nate24 on Aug 15, 2017 17:57:57 GMT
One thing though, if he was on a 3 month visa, surely Panthers wouldn't use up a few weeks of that time with pre-season? They'd get him in as late as possible to maximise the number of games he plays wouldn't they? That's a good alternate spin. Didn't think if that. Only time will tell but gisnifea gives me a little hope he's on a longer visa. |
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Post by Peacock on Aug 15, 2017 19:55:33 GMT
I'm pretty sure that if you get a short visa, you have to leave the UK for a prescribed period of time (don't know what it is) before you can re-enter on a different visa.
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Post by MPW! on Aug 15, 2017 20:56:08 GMT
It says on the GOV.UK website that you can switch from a temporary tier 5 visa (creative & sporting) to a 3 year tier 2 (sportsperson) visa without having to leave the country. It also says that the normal processing time for both of these visas is 3 weeks, so not sure if there would be an advantage in doing it that way. Apparently you can't work if you are in the UK on a tourist visa.
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Post by iginla on Aug 15, 2017 21:18:36 GMT
Brian Stewart. He can win them the game on his own as he did against us for the Blaze numerous times. To say hes the best signing people can come up with for Gilford says it all. Hes decent but not an omg player. And with their defence i dont think hes gonna have an easy year. I honestly think Flames are going to be in for a nasty shock. With the team Guildford have signed they are most definitely in for a very very nasty shock. Them and Dundee are finishing 11th and 12th without a shadow of a doubt. |
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Post by iginla on Aug 15, 2017 21:32:51 GMT
Without looking I'm not too sure, I'm sure there will be a short and long term variation but I do remember that more often than not the Visa will be granted for the period of time disclosed on the Certificate of Sponsorship (Contract details basically) plus 1 month. It does seem strange that he's in so quickly compared to other North Americans in the past. Only explanations would surely be EU Passport or as you've suggested, a short stay Visa. Really hope it's not a short term stay, can't see him being much else but a stud! My worry is he's too much of a stud. If he performs well he could well take a contract in a bigger and better league. The cynic in me wonders if this is a short term deal to showcase his talents whilst giving us a boost to start the season and he may sign for longer if no other offers come in. I like the guy but something seems a little off. Hope I'm wrong. But the cynic in me says....this could be why we signed that "extra guy" in Perlini ! #justincase |
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Post by nate24 on Aug 15, 2017 21:45:09 GMT
My worry is he's too much of a stud. If he performs well he could well take a contract in a bigger and better league. The cynic in me wonders if this is a short term deal to showcase his talents whilst giving us a boost to start the season and he may sign for longer if no other offers come in. I like the guy but something seems a little off. Hope I'm wrong. But the cynic in me says....this could be why we signed that "extra guy" in Perlini ! #justincase But that's a huge positive if it is. A huge step forward in our complacent attitude towards covering gaps in the roster. That said if he goes and we just accept we have Perlini so we don't have to replace him then we may as well not have bothered . The exciting thing about this team is flexibity. We need to maintain that. |
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Post by Shorty on Aug 16, 2017 6:10:37 GMT
He could easily have signed a while ago, but been waiting on follow up medical tests after his all clear.
As always we don't know, so just speculate.
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Post by nate24 on Aug 16, 2017 6:18:28 GMT
Just to add, I take. I credit for the question He can give two weeks notice at any point. Visa aside the worry is he's an awesome player likely to be on many radars. Official club speak means very little. These aren't rumours. Just speculation. It will die down once the hockey actually starts. We'll see him play, hopefully it'll be great. He may leave, he may stay nobody knows. But what you have to accept is when a player is talented and young there is a chance they'd take a better job if it came along. He owes it to himself. These guys aren't earning millions and if someone comes offering more money it's almost impossible to turn down as they have to make as much as they can while they can. Not to mention boosting your CV. Winning with a DEL team shines more than the EIHL. Brandon Prust took a year out of the NHL to play in the DEL and now has several NHL training camp offers. It's the better showcase. |
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Post by Ghost on Aug 16, 2017 8:55:35 GMT
2016/17 - sign crap players = moaning due to lack of quality
2017/18 - sign quality players = moaning due to too much quality
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Post by nate24 on Aug 16, 2017 9:32:40 GMT
2016/17 - sign crap players = moaning due to lack of quality 2017/18 - sign quality players = moaning due to too much quality Nobody is moaning. Stop being so sensitive. The roster has decent quality and flexibility. Everyone is happy with Sauve but realistic that sometimes these guys move on quickly. It's a legitimate, proven concern that has happened before and will happen again. So long as Sauve doesn't become a one man team all is well even if he does move on. You know and I know that management are poor at replacing lost players. That is a concern with every player on our roster. It's exacerbated when looking at Sauve due to his pedigree. I hope all the speculation, theorising is wrong but it's a possibility. |
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Post by texpef on Aug 16, 2017 10:01:34 GMT
i don't think anyone has forgotten how tessier leaving killed off that season as a challenge and I for one am very weary for the club getting caught in that position again... however there is no reason this should happen to panthers anymore than any other team in our league..
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Post by nate24 on Aug 16, 2017 10:29:01 GMT
i don't think anyone has forgotten how tessier leaving killed off that season as a challenge and I for one am very weary for the club getting caught in that position again... however there is no reason this should happen to panthers anymore than any other team in our league.. To be quite honest is nice to have a worry like this 😂 Every club is at the mercy of two week contracts but in recent years we haven't had many flight risks to be concerned with. |
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Post by iginla on Aug 16, 2017 12:17:42 GMT
i don't think anyone has forgotten how tessier leaving killed off that season as a challenge and I for one am very weary for the club getting caught in that position again... however there is no reason this should happen to panthers anymore than any other team in our league.. To be quite honest is nice to have a worry like this 😂 Every club is at the mercy of two week contracts but in recent years we haven't had many flight risks to be concerned with. Not quite true Nate.....I bet Guildford and Dundee don't have that problem ! 😂 Lol |
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