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Post by wgray on Jun 8, 2017 14:30:37 GMT
Welcome to Nottingham Tim!
Young, big, no injury history, throws the body and in that article it states that one of his best assets is his transition game, sounds good to me.
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Post by PantherB on Jun 8, 2017 15:00:01 GMT
Happy with the signing.
His CV may be short and not gleaming in gold but he looks to have solid seasons consistently.
As mentioned by others, got the Brown and Ling recommendation as seems to be known as a guy who will punish people with their heads down. If Brown can play his true Power Forward role on a checking line, it could make it even more gruelling to play against with Billingsley on D.
It is a wait and see, same with Zakharchenko and Alex but all 3 have something about them which don't suggest cheap duds.
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 8, 2017 15:18:54 GMT
Think at the minute we've got what looks like solid players for the lower lines and a very good base. certainly a better start point from last season, but we need the match winners now. Top line guys who have been there and done it. Garnett aside they're all wait and see players although they all look like they've got some thing going for them we now need players who at one glance you know will win us games and championships
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Post by shmyrohdear on Jun 8, 2017 15:49:23 GMT
Don't turn your nose up at this guy, good skating ability, physical at the right time and is disciplined.
I hope we pair him with Spang, his hitting ability should make players think twice about cutting in at the blueline.
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Post by DMS on Jun 8, 2017 16:34:26 GMT
This guy looks solid, the sort of thing we need in front of our netminding trio. Pleased with this signing.
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Post by panthers4ever on Jun 8, 2017 16:36:50 GMT
Looks a decent signing imo
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Post by dp on Jun 8, 2017 20:29:43 GMT
Think at the minute we've got what looks like solid players for the lower lines and a very good base. certainly a better start point from last season, but we need the match winners now. Top line guys who have been there and done it. Garnett aside they're all wait and see players although they all look like they've got some thing going for them we now need players who at one glance you know will win us games and championships Exactly. I don't feel any reason for excitement so far. Garnett aside, we look to be downgrading from last season. And I certainly never put any weight on Corey's words or previous coach's words from they've signed them - tell me where in sports history a coach has ever signed a player and said they don't think they've very good. I say this every single season, but the teams who win the Elite League are the ones who sign players with good AHL/DEL/NHL careers. The reason Fife, Caps, Stars etc don't win the league is because they sign players with a couple of seasons of ECHL and CIS. Let's face it, he's played two full seasons in the East Coast - if he was that good, he'd have been called up to the AHL. I just really hope we're keeping our powder dry and holding back the cash for some MAJOR signings. It's too early to start getting depressed yet, but things need to start picking up with the remaining imports. It's nothing against this guy, but if you could win the league with players of this calibre, then the league would be completely unpredictable...and it isn't. If you ignore the Panthers spin and look at Brampton's stats from last season, Billington doesn't look good in the +/- and isn't one of the players you'd want to sign from that team.
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Post by PantherB on Jun 8, 2017 20:52:40 GMT
Think at the minute we've got what looks like solid players for the lower lines and a very good base. certainly a better start point from last season, but we need the match winners now. Top line guys who have been there and done it. Garnett aside they're all wait and see players although they all look like they've got some thing going for them we now need players who at one glance you know will win us games and championships Exactly. I don't feel any reason for excitement so far. Garnett aside, we look to be downgrading from last season. And I certainly never put any weight on Corey's words or previous coach's words from they've signed them - tell me where in sports history a coach has ever signed a player and said they don't think they've very good. I say this every single season, but the teams who win the Elite League are the ones who sign players with good AHL/DEL/NHL careers. The reason Fife, Caps, Stars etc don't win the league is because they sign players with a couple of seasons of ECHL and CIS. Let's face it, he's played two full seasons in the East Coast - if he was that good, he'd have been called up to the AHL. I just really hope we're keeping our powder dry and holding back the cash for some MAJOR signings. It's too early to start getting depressed yet, but things need to start picking up with the remaining imports. It's nothing against this guy, but if you could win the league with players of this calibre, then the league would be completely unpredictable...and it isn't. We won the league with Francis, Galivan and Lepine.. Just 26 AHL games between them before coming to us, all other career games were ECHL and Juniors/College. Remember Mosey too! Look at some of the guys Cardiff had last season.. Morissette - 2 seasons in the CHL, 1 season in France and Denmark and 1 in the DEL2. His seasons in the CHL were very good, after that, he was below average.. Until he went to Cardiff where he shone. Joey Martin - 3 seasons in the ECHL with 21 AHL call ups Gui Doucet - 2 okay seasons in France followed by an outstanding year in the EIHL, followed by a dreadful half season in Denmark Chris Culligan - Played just 9 pro games, split between ECHL and AHL before joining Devils, turned out to be one of their unsung hero players. Steelers have Markus Nilsson as a good example of poor CV turning into a decent product.. Arrived from the Swedish 3rd tier, turned out quite good.
We've seen lots of big CV, long career players come through the league who have been duds, not lived up to expectation. But we've seen quite a few players with sub standard careers, come here and prove that they are more than good enough for the league. Besides Garnett and Spang, our imports so far are either beginning or in the middle of the pro careers, they have more reason to play than a final pay cheque. We seem a bit quicker than last season already, definitely younger and likely more prosperous. We've only signed some bottom 6 forwards and a top 6 defenceman so far, along with the goalies of course. Plenty of players left to sign and as Simms was saying a few days ago, we rely too much on the 'CV players' and tend to be disappointed.
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Post by iginla on Jun 8, 2017 21:12:21 GMT
You can get away with two or three low resume' imports. But nobody wins the EIHL without a lot of AHL or higher experience on their roster.
That's not to say you "will win it" with that sort of experience,but you certainly "won't win it" without it !
Every year the little teams sign rosters full of low quality cv's and every year they are absolutely nowhere near winning the league.
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Post by wgray on Jun 8, 2017 21:55:59 GMT
Think at the minute we've got what looks like solid players for the lower lines and a very good base. certainly a better start point from last season, but we need the match winners now. Top line guys who have been there and done it. Garnett aside they're all wait and see players although they all look like they've got some thing going for them we now need players who at one glance you know will win us games and championships Exactly. I don't feel any reason for excitement so far. Garnett aside, we look to be downgrading from last season. And I certainly never put any weight on Corey's words or previous coach's words from they've signed them - tell me where in sports history a coach has ever signed a player and said they don't think they've very good. I say this every single season, but the teams who win the Elite League are the ones who sign players with good AHL/DEL/NHL careers. The reason Fife, Caps, Stars etc don't win the league is because they sign players with a couple of seasons of ECHL and CIS. Let's face it, he's played two full seasons in the East Coast - if he was that good, he'd have been called up to the AHL. I just really hope we're keeping our powder dry and holding back the cash for some MAJOR signings. It's too early to start getting depressed yet, but things need to start picking up with the remaining imports. It's nothing against this guy, but if you could win the league with players of this calibre, then the league would be completely unpredictable...and it isn't. If you ignore the Panthers spin and look at Brampton's stats from last season, Billington doesn't look good in the +/- and isn't one of the players you'd want to sign from that team. how have we downgraded so far? All three goalies have definitely been upgraded upon Mokshantsev is replacing Sarkanis and Billingsley is replacing Waugh, without having seen them play how can you make any judgements that they won't be better than who they are replacing? I do agree with you that you need the leaders with the experience who have been there and done it but the players we've signed so far aren't for those roles. The players we have signed so far you want to be reliable and tondonthe simple things right. There's time left for the big signings to be made and I personally think that so far we look to have improved even without the big signings being announced.
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Post by iginla on Jun 8, 2017 22:12:36 GMT
You are assuming that the big signings are coming......they might not be !
And I wish people would stop saying somebody has replaced Sarkanis. They haven't replaced him,they have replaced whoever got injured and Sarkanis came in to replace,which was Williams.
So by your logic,Mokshantsev has replaced Williams !
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Post by fishman on Jun 8, 2017 22:16:40 GMT
Other than Granett, Panthers have signed "making up the numbers" players, resigned Spang, Farmer and Clarke,but fans are desperate for the guy that is going to get 30+ goals
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 22:43:50 GMT
Other than Granett, Panthers have signed "making up the numbers" players, resigned Spang, Farmer and Clarke,but fans are desperate for the guy that is going to get 30+ goals The only 'making up the numbers' players we've signed so far are Kelsall, Tetlow and (to an extent) Gospel. Everyone else we've signed so far has a role to play if we are to be successful in 17/18.
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Post by wgray on Jun 8, 2017 23:55:33 GMT
You are assuming that the big signings are coming......they might not be ! And I wish people would stop saying somebody has replaced Sarkanis. They haven't replaced him,they have replaced whoever got injured and Sarkanis came in to replace,which was Williams. So by your logic,Mokshantsev has replaced Williams ! No, not at all. I'm thinking about the structure of our forward lines, who suits the relevant positions and trying to make comparisons to players who were doing the same role last season. I don't remember Williams' role to be playing on the fourth line do you? Sarkanis was brought in as injury cover for whoever was out, whenever he was brought into the line up the lines were shuffled and he played fourth line. This is why AM is replacing Sarkanis in effect. You need structure to your lines, Corey is starting from the bottom and filling up so it would seem. 3rd and 4th lines and 1/2 the defence sorted with cheaper but improved players, now he can go out and get the big guns. After last season, and bearing in mind we are in the CHL, we are going to have a stronger team which will include the big resume players. Black loves European competitions remember. So far we have improved imo, give the club some credit and be optimistic rather than pessimistic for once.
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Post by sevcik on Jun 14, 2017 16:09:19 GMT
OHLs hardest ever hit? Courtesy of Tom Billingsley......
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Post by allingtonskates on Jun 14, 2017 16:11:54 GMT
OHLs hardest ever hit? Courtesy of Tom Billingsley...... who is tom billingsley?
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Post by sevcik on Jun 14, 2017 16:16:31 GMT
OHLs hardest ever hit? Courtesy of Tom Billingsley...... who is tom billingsley? If your being so pedantic it be but a simple case of my phones auto correct kicking in and my not checking that particular word... Humble apologies..🙋
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Post by Yotes on Jun 14, 2017 16:28:40 GMT
Didn't check the rest of the thread either!
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Post by sevcik on Jun 14, 2017 16:44:17 GMT
Didn't check the rest of the thread either! Alas not dear chap.... Guilty as charged.... Humble pie being eaten in copious amounts. I unlike some posters. on here admit to my mistakes.... I blame the heat 😁
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Post by kezypanther on Jun 14, 2017 16:56:15 GMT
the quote is here:
“He’s one of those guys who does things a lot of guys aren’t willing to do,” Chaulk said. “He can kill penalties, block shots and we believe he can provide more offense. One of the best qualities Billingsley possesses is his transition game. We’re excited to watch him do it again this season.”
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Post by allingtonskates on Jun 14, 2017 17:09:14 GMT
If your being so pedantic it be but a simple case of my phones auto correct kicking in and my not checking that particular word... Humble apologies..🙋 no problem
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Post by deke on Jun 15, 2017 7:25:47 GMT
Bildozer lol love the name. So far we have upgraded on every signing, no big guns yet the exception being garnett. So we still have that to look for. Not sure what the overall team style is going to be put Corey seems to be going for a rough team so far with some speedy elements. For certain a young team this year with a lot of potential. A few key players with a good amount of seasoning and we have the potential for a good and entertaining team.
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Post by sevcik on Jul 1, 2017 18:16:31 GMT
Interview with Tim Billingsley from the time he started college Touches on the differences between the OHL, The CHL & the CIS (college league) and also the type of player he sees himself as. As well as his thoughts on being drafted ravenshockeylive.wordpress.com/tag/tim-billingsley/
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