Time to do the right thing Corey

[wilx]

Title says it all, you have no clue and never will. Please accept it and resign

[shinobi]

Needs to resign. End of. Team is woeful.

[Rob Scott]

Runs much, much deeper than the coach....

[Kovalchuk17]

We're at the end of March and asides from McGrattan & Farmer he hasn't settled even 1 line together. He has multiple players mocking him by their attitude and application and when he should have made changes earlier in the season, he failed to do so.

Black was faced with the question of letting Corey go at that chat evening... he laughed it off because Corey is so good at winning cups, yet then went on to say how the league is the overriding priority. I don't think any of them have a clue.

For me, the grand slam was a fluke.

[The Flying Shirt]

Mar 22, 2017 23:08:14 GMT Kovalchuk17 said:

We're at the end of March and asides from McGrattan & Farmer he hasn't settled even 1 line together. He has multiple players mocking him by their attitude and application and when he should have made changes earlier in the season, he failed to do so.

Black was faced with the question of letting Corey go at that chat evening... he laughed it off because Corey is so good at winning cups, yet then went on to say how the league is the overriding priority. I don't think any of them have a clue.

For me, the grand slam was a fluke.

Just a hint, one of them is a liar and one is clueless and constantly trying to prove he isn't. Take your pick.

[iginla]

Neilson should have gone two years ago.
The only thing that saved him was that nobody wanted the job.
Nobody wanted the job,because working for Black and Moran is a poisoned chalice !

Corey plays the game with Moran,so Moran looks after his back,Black can't be bothered to watch his team very often,he gets fed a pack of lies by Moran and is clueless about what really goes on.

Neilson needs to go.
Moran needs to follow him.
And Black needs to get his backside up to Nottingham and find out what really goes on with his team !!

[Yotes]

Mar 22, 2017 22:59:52 GMT Rob Scott said:

Runs much, much deeper than the coach....

Yeah but we'll never get rid of the Prince of Darkness. Neilson would be a start.

[Deleted]

Finally a thread about the obvious ... Go now Corey enoughs enough..

But Brian Clough once said something along the lines of if the coach is no good those who employed them should also go ....never a truer word spoken

So time for new ownership.. bye NB

[Shorty]

If nobody wanted the job before (which I find hard to believe), why would anyone want it now?

[Pies]

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. Whilst I don't think we've had a great season, we all know what he was set as a priority this season. He recruited a team to win that cup. Which was wrong but he's being made a scapegoat for the goals set by an owner and a GM who are increasingly looking inept.

As it has been stated, the problems run deeper. The guy is the most successful coach EIHL history, Panthers history and has been a damn fine servant to this club. A little respect wouldn't go amiss sometimes.

[wilx]

Mar 23, 2017 8:13:09 GMT Pies said:

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. Whilst I don't think we've had a great season, we all know what he was set as a priority this season. He recruited a team to win that cup. Which was wrong but he's being made a scapegoat for the goals set by an owner and a GM who are increasingly looking inept.

As it has been stated, the problems run deeper. The guy is the most successful coach EIHL history, Panthers history and has been a damn fine servant to this club. A little respect wouldn't go amiss sometimes.

Ah, so you are the one that stayed to clap?

So what about last season and the season before?

[iginla]

Mar 23, 2017 8:13:09 GMT Pies said:

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. Whilst I don't think we've had a great season, we all know what he was set as a priority this season. He recruited a team to win that cup. Which was wrong but he's being made a scapegoat for the goals set by an owner and a GM who are increasingly looking inept.

As it has been stated, the problems run deeper. The guy is the most successful coach EIHL history, Panthers history and has been a damn fine servant to this club. A little respect wouldn't go amiss sometimes.

Neilson will have my respect when he has the balls to stand up to Moran and Black regarding how things are run and when he shows the fans some respect by not <removed> them with lame excuses.

Most successful coach in Panthers EIHL history eh ?
Bloody hell,we've only had THREE of them.....and the other two got stabbed in the back by Moran !!!!!!

[Pies]

Mar 23, 2017 8:29:56 GMT wilx said:

Mar 23, 2017 8:13:09 GMT Pies said:

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. Whilst I don't think we've had a great season, we all know what he was set as a priority this season. He recruited a team to win that cup. Which was wrong but he's being made a scapegoat for the goals set by an owner and a GM who are increasingly looking inept.

As it has been stated, the problems run deeper. The guy is the most successful coach EIHL history, Panthers history and has been a damn fine servant to this club. A little respect wouldn't go amiss sometimes.

Ah, so you are the one that stayed to clap?

So what about last season and the season before?

Ah so because I have a different opinion to you, I'm a happy clapper? I wish we all lived in the black and white world you live in. No I didn't stay and clap. But I was there when we were happy to make 8th place. I was there when we were getting thumped by the big boys week in, week out. Do not mistake my respect for Corey as meaning I am happy with this season or any past seasons. All I am pointing out is, there were much worse time in Panthers history. There have been much worse coaches and a lot of other coaches who couldn't deliver what Corey has to this team. 1 league title is frustrating. But no other team has won what we've won in this time. Sheffield went a couple of seasons with no trophies and granted they won the league 3 times and one playoff title but they had baron spells. Braehead should have won more than a conference title. Giants have won one trophy in the past few years. We've had one season in the past 10 where we haven't lifted a trophy. That isn't a fluke. That isn't luck, regardless of this season, trophies have been delivered.

[Stargazer]

Mar 23, 2017 8:13:09 GMT Pies said:

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. Whilst I don't think we've had a great season, we all know what he was set as a priority this season. He recruited a team to win that cup. Which was wrong but he's being made a scapegoat for the goals set by an owner and a GM who are increasingly looking inept.

As it has been stated, the problems run deeper. The guy is the most successful coach EIHL history, Panthers history and has been a damn fine servant to this club. A little respect wouldn't go amiss sometimes.

A fine servant?? He played with arrogance and now he coaches with arrogance, which quite clearly transmits to the players. He's here because he's paid to be here! and that's the same for Moran!

[Pies]

Mar 23, 2017 8:48:31 GMT Stargazer said:

Mar 23, 2017 8:13:09 GMT Pies said:

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. Whilst I don't think we've had a great season, we all know what he was set as a priority this season. He recruited a team to win that cup. Which was wrong but he's being made a scapegoat for the goals set by an owner and a GM who are increasingly looking inept.

As it has been stated, the problems run deeper. The guy is the most successful coach EIHL history, Panthers history and has been a damn fine servant to this club. A little respect wouldn't go amiss sometimes.

A fine servant?? He played with arrogance and now he coaches with arrogance, which quite clearly transmits to the players. He's here because he's paid to be here! and that's the same for Moran!

Arrogance in top level sports is not uncommon at all. Torts in hockey, Zlatan, Jose and Clough were all arrogant. Do you know what they all are? Winners.

And I don't understand your point about pay? Don't we all go to work to be paid?

Sorry folks, you can all pick my post apart but no one will change my mind that's corey deserves the respect of this fan base. People seem to be mistaking that for an acceptance of on ice performances which I find ludicrous.

[Deleted]

Mar 23, 2017 8:55:23 GMT Pies said:

Mar 23, 2017 8:48:31 GMT Stargazer said:

A fine servant?? He played with arrogance and now he coaches with arrogance, which quite clearly transmits to the players. He's here because he's paid to be here! and that's the same for Moran!

Arrogance in top level sports is not uncommon at all. Torts in hockey, Zlatan, Jose and Clough were all arrogant. Do you know what they all are? Winners.

And I don't understand your point about pay? Don't we all go to work to be paid?

Sorry folks, you can all pick my post apart but no one will change my mind that's corey deserves the respect of this fan base. People seem to be mistaking that for an acceptance of on ice performances which I find ludicrous.

Quite agree with this and no I'm not a Happy Clapper either - in fact I didn't go last night because I'm disillusioned. However, the vile way that Corey (not Cory!) is being portrayed on here by some is astonishing. I'm not averse to change and indeed the time may well be right, but a little decency wouldn't go amiss. As FTM states the problems can be attributed to those 'above' Mr Nielsen.

Whatever happens I will be eternally grateful for what has been achieved by #77 as a player and coach.

[Stargazer]

Mar 23, 2017 8:55:23 GMT Pies said:

Mar 23, 2017 8:48:31 GMT Stargazer said:

A fine servant?? He played with arrogance and now he coaches with arrogance, which quite clearly transmits to the players. He's here because he's paid to be here! and that's the same for Moran!

Arrogance in top level sports is not uncommon at all. Torts in hockey, Zlatan, Jose and Clough were all arrogant. Do you know what they all are? Winners.

And I don't understand your point about pay? Don't we all go to work to be paid?

Sorry folks, you can all pick my post apart but no one will change my mind that's corey deserves the respect of this fan base. People seem to be mistaking that for an acceptance of on ice performances which I find ludicrous.

They are all brilliant, knowledgable coaches/players that you've mentioned there. Is Corey brilliant? Is Corey knowledgable? In my opinion its a straight no, but thats open for debate.

But I will tell you one thing - None of Clough's or Jose's teams played with the level of arrogance or complacency Corey's do!

Yes we do all go to work to be paid (other than a slight few who do it for other reasons). So again, being a good servant just doesnt cut it with me.

[Pies]

Mar 23, 2017 9:10:46 GMT Stargazer said:

Mar 23, 2017 8:55:23 GMT Pies said:

Arrogance in top level sports is not uncommon at all. Torts in hockey, Zlatan, Jose and Clough were all arrogant. Do you know what they all are? Winners.

And I don't understand your point about pay? Don't we all go to work to be paid?

Sorry folks, you can all pick my post apart but no one will change my mind that's corey deserves the respect of this fan base. People seem to be mistaking that for an acceptance of on ice performances which I find ludicrous.

They are all brilliant, knoledgable coaches/players that you've mentioned there. Is Corey brilliant? Is Corey knowledgable? In my opinion its a straight no, but thats open for debate.

But I will tell you one thing - None of Clough's or Jose's teams played with the level of arrogance or complacency Corey's do!

Yes we do all go to work to be paid (other than a slight few who do it for other reasons). So again, being a good servant just doesnt cut it with me.

Jose team at Chelsea last season played with the utmost complancey and got him sacked! I never saw a Clough team play being a Pie and too young so can't comment on him too much other than his arrogance was well known and applauded!


Ultimately, I will respect everyone's right to have an opinion on Corey however my point has always been regardless of what you may think about Corey the coach or the player, he deserves some respect from this fan base.

[Deleted]

So the argument is because he achieved the clubs targets he should stay... the thing is the club achieved the wrong target!

The league should be THE target every year without fail. If the club performs badly or the team fail to compete in the that the coach should fall on his sword! This CC thing should be seen as a little bonus that includes the playoffs and CC

[iginla]

The difference with Corey and the other previous Panthers coaches is Corey was in the hot seat at the right time when Panthers are a big boy.
Put another coach in Nottingham and he would have won trophies whilst Sheffield,Cardiff and others were struggling in the doldrums.

Put Corey in other teams and he would have won pretty much bugger all.
He's won cups because he's at Panthers when they are top dog and he's kept his job because he sucks Moran backside !
Not won so much the last few years since the re emergence of other teams has he.

He's arrogant and pig headed,but he's kept his job because nobody else wants it and because he gives Moran no trouble !

[Pies]

Mar 23, 2017 9:25:45 GMT @pidge said:

So the argument is because he achieved the clubs targets he should stay... the thing is the club achieved the wrong target!

The league should be THE target every year without fail. If the club performs badly or the team fail to compete in the that the coach should fall on his sword! This CC thing should be seen as a little bonus that includes the playoffs and CC

On that I 100% agree. But it's like any walk of life, your boss says they want you to achieve something, then that's what you have to do. It's not Corey's fault what parameters have been set.

[iginla]

Mar 23, 2017 9:34:40 GMT Pies said:

Mar 23, 2017 9:25:45 GMT @pidge said:

So the argument is because he achieved the clubs targets he should stay... the thing is the club achieved the wrong target!

The league should be THE target every year without fail. If the club performs badly or the team fail to compete in the that the coach should fall on his sword! This CC thing should be seen as a little bonus that includes the playoffs and CC

On that I 100% agree. But it's like any walk of life, your boss says they want you to achieve something, then that's what you have to do. It's not Corey's fault what parameters have been set.

So Coreys living a lie,telling us a pack of lies too,just doing as he's told,not ruffling any feathers and being Morans yes man........just to keep his job eh ?
Sorry,but even I thought he was a bigger and better man than that.

Black said categorically at the Q+A that the league was ALWAYS priority,so if that was the perameter set,then finishing a league 4th/5th AGAIN is an epic fail.....YET AGAIN !

[Stargazer]

Mar 23, 2017 9:17:24 GMT Pies said:

Mar 23, 2017 9:10:46 GMT Stargazer said:

They are all brilliant, knoledgable coaches/players that you've mentioned there. Is Corey brilliant? Is Corey knowledgable? In my opinion its a straight no, but thats open for debate.

But I will tell you one thing - None of Clough's or Jose's teams played with the level of arrogance or complacency Corey's do!

Yes we do all go to work to be paid (other than a slight few who do it for other reasons). So again, being a good servant just doesnt cut it with me.

Jose team at Chelsea last season played with the utmost complancey and got him sacked! I never saw a Clough team play being a Pie and too young so can't comment on him too much other than his arrogance was well known and applauded!


Ultimately, I will respect everyone's right to have an opinion on Corey however my point has always been regardless of what you may think about Corey the coach or the player, he deserves some respect from this fan base.

Corey is always going to polarise opinions, I respect yours (and everyone elses for that matter) I'm very much on the anti-Corey side and unfortunately he's contracted for next season.

Jose did get the sack for having a complacent/failing team after half a season! I would like Corey to get the sack for having a complacent/failing team for multiple seasons.

I think I speak for most on here when I say you have my upmost sympathy for being a Notts fan Pies.

[jdizpt8]

If he's sacked based on what he's been asked to achieve this season then that'd be unjust, he won the continental cup as asked by the owner. We're in the CHL next season which is what Black wants.
My own feelings on the situation are that we need a change of GM and coach. A bit of new blood into the club to liven things up. Hey I'd even give Clarke the job and see what he can do. He might have different ideas and play set lines and have an out and out top line. Fact is none of us know for certain what goes on behind closed doors, I appreciate what Corey had done for the club, in the early years where we just tried to out score the other team was entertaining, Some of the players he brought in have been world beaters others best not mentioned. The grand slam was his time to leave, you've won it all move on.

[texpef]

Mar 23, 2017 8:40:27 GMT Pies said:

Mar 23, 2017 8:29:56 GMT wilx said:

Ah, so you are the one that stayed to clap?

So what about last season and the season before?

Ah so because I have a different opinion to you, I'm a happy clapper? I wish we all lived in the black and white world you live in. No I didn't stay and clap. But I was there when we were happy to make 8th place. I was there when we were getting thumped by the big boys week in, week out. Do not mistake my respect for Corey as meaning I am happy with this season or any past seasons. All I am pointing out is, there were much worse time in Panthers history. There have been much worse coaches and a lot of other coaches who couldn't deliver what Corey has to this team. 1 league title is frustrating. But no other team has won what we've won in this time. Sheffield went a couple of seasons with no trophies and granted they won the league 3 times and one playoff title but they had baron spells. Braehead should have won more than a conference title. Giants have won one trophy in the past few years. We've had one season in the past 10 where we haven't lifted a trophy. That isn't a fluke. That isn't luck, regardless of this season, trophies have been delivered.

I have sympathy for this opinion and i also was there when we scrapped 8th (got thumped in the playoffs though) but as for CN and his success am finding it hard to accept. We have only been an arena team since 2001 and it took a few years to build up the crowds were we have become what should be a financial powerhouse in our league therefore previous coaches havent had the financial clout and hence in theory the quality of teams that CN should have been able to sign. As far as the trophies won by the respective clubs are concerned well, its almost inevitable to get through to the quarter finals stages of the challenge cup then 3 wins gets you a trophy, the same for the playoffs with the added advantage in Nottingham being that most of them are at home (being made even more evident in that one season we didnt even win a game in regulation). The league proves that over the course of many many games which the best team is and that in panthers case is once in 16 odd years we have been an arena team is that really good enough especially as CN in theory has the "most expensive roster in the league"...