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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Mar 15, 2017 21:36:05 GMT
If Carter or MacMillan are re-signed im not going to home games next season. Neither should be here now, let alone given another year. Add Waugh & Dimmen to that. ...I'd probably give up on a season ticket if Wiikman came back too - great keeper on his day but you can't win the league with such a brittle keeper who's prone to inconsistency when fit.
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Post by fishman on Mar 29, 2017 16:44:02 GMT
I alway get the impression that the import recruitment never seems to be anything but scramble to find 12 or 14 imports and not a lot thought in the role the each player is going to do for the club.
For instance, getting proper center that can win faceoff and sending in the likes of Lacko or any other forward that as a hockey stick in his hand, CN alway wants to turn wingers into centers and forwards into D men
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Post by iginla on Mar 29, 2017 17:05:07 GMT
I alway get the impression that the import recruitment never seems to be anything but scramble to find 12 or 14 imports and not a lot thought in the role the each player is going to do for the club. For instance, getting proper center that can win faceoff and sending in the likes of Lacko or any other forward that as a hockey stick in his hand, CN alway wants to turn wingers into centers and forwards into D men True. Going to be even worse next season too,trying to get quality imports to commit early AND get here for Mr Blacks deadline of the 7th of August. You can see already that it's heading for yet another typical Panthers balls up !
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Post by DMS on Mar 29, 2017 18:36:58 GMT
I alway get the impression that the import recruitment never seems to be anything but scramble to find 12 or 14 imports and not a lot thought in the role the each player is going to do for the club. For instance, getting proper center that can win faceoff and sending in the likes of Lacko or any other forward that as a hockey stick in his hand, CN alway wants to turn wingers into centers and forwards into D men This! Successful teams bring in players to perform specific functions, we don't!
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Post by PantherG on Mar 31, 2017 11:38:30 GMT
I alway get the impression that the import recruitment never seems to be anything but scramble to find 12 or 14 imports and not a lot thought in the role the each player is going to do for the club. For instance, getting proper center that can win faceoff and sending in the likes of Lacko or any other forward that as a hockey stick in his hand, CN alway wants to turn wingers into centers and forwards into D men This! Successful teams bring in players to perform specific functions, we don't! Hence why we probably need a brand new coaching team, with someone who can actually scout, rather then going on word of mouth and references.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Mar 31, 2017 12:16:31 GMT
Scout - you mean sending people to watch players ? That isn't going to happen in a million years. Players will be signed on the recommendation of a former team mate, or some-one who's played against us, some-one seen playing against GB, or on a DVD resume. Footballers get signed to Premiership contracts on the basis of DVD's.
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Post by iginla on Mar 31, 2017 14:21:52 GMT
Panthers scout players.....haha no chance.
Go have a look who's on the books of "9 hockey management" and "37 hockey" because that's where a lot of players come from. Both agents who play the "who will pay the most for my player game" when hawked around the EIHL.
And the former agent of the two (Gareth Chalmers) just happens to be part of Braeheads management team. Good that eh !
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Post by ted logan on Apr 3, 2017 14:41:48 GMT
So far it looks as though Spang, Brown and McGrattan are back then? Moran retired.
As for the rest of the imports I wouldn't be too concerned if none of the others came back.
Wiikman - great on his day but we just know he'll pick up 2-3 muscle strains a year. Wouldn't be disappointed if he came back but would rather we looked elsewhere.
Pacl - if he's happy to come back as back up then definitely have him back. If he wants to be first choice, no. Not ready to back stop us to a title.
Dimmen - tidy player but too injury prone. Move on.
Waugh - see Dimmen.
Sertich - heralded signing, steady enough but that's it. Move on.
Lindhagen - still not sure if he's a D or F? Would be OK to keep on for his versatility. A decent Euro signing.
MacMillan - a resounding no.
Schultz - one of the best forwards in the league, or should be. Made of glass though. Move on.
Lawrence - has everything but coasts in too many games. So frustrating. Move on.
Carter - a bigger resounding no than the one for #39. Worst import forward I've seen.
Nikiforuk - can't fault his effort and has scored some nice goals. Not quite done enough though. Move on.
Williams - looked top class when he arrived then got injured. Anonymous since his return. Class is permanent though, so would have him back.
Serkanis - spare forward, yes. Anything else, no.
As for the Brits. Green must go. Keep the rest. I'm not a Lacho fan but play him as a fourth line winger and penalty killer. That's it.
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Post by texpef on Apr 3, 2017 14:53:36 GMT
So pretty much the entire import roster gone... cant really disagree Ted.
As for the brits... well the money we must be paying lee and lacho i am pretty sure we can get better...
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Post by ted logan on Apr 3, 2017 15:05:41 GMT
So pretty much the entire import roster gone... cant really disagree Ted. As for the brits... well the money we must be paying lee and lacho i am pretty sure we can get better... I'm OK with the three imports that are apparently coming back Tex. As for the Brits, yes I'd love to get the likes of Richardson, Batch, O'Connor or Dowd in. Even Jack Prince. If we can't though, for whatever reason, we've got to make the best of what we have. It's the imports where we need to improve on massively for next season.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Apr 3, 2017 16:02:27 GMT
Lacho has to go. For what he brings we may as well take a chance on a younger player with potential.
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Post by iginla on Apr 3, 2017 16:07:21 GMT
Blimey Ted,you nailed that list. If i had written that player analysis it would be word for word the same as yours. 👍
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 4, 2017 12:44:20 GMT
We are playing in the CHL so having to compete with teams of a much higher than standard than the CC. I thought our team was pretty good last time we played, but it was men v boys against the Scandinavians. Just imagine if the current team played Lulea. and Dan green was on the bench, then Miika got injured. We will need some serious upgrades on the current team, but with some continuity so I think 3 or 4 will need to stay.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Apr 4, 2017 13:57:46 GMT
Spang, Brown & McG I'd have as the only nailed on to return because of their two year contracts. We should shop around for a high quality keeper who could potentially be a franchise player 5+ seasons. We need two boys in defence who can clear the crease and make it hard for teams to enter the zone. A few dish masters and snipers are a must and players who have consistently played full seasons for the past 4-5 seasons!!
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Post by allingtonskates on Apr 4, 2017 22:57:28 GMT
Apart from the imports already returning i'd only keep Williams. Lacho and Lee can go for me Keep Farmer and Ollie DC still should have another season in him Faceoff winning centres would be nice D men who clear the zone and are tough - too many of our d are too easy to move off the puck. 3 x snipers Oh and a plan b to be fair winning face offs is the only positive thing from Lawrence.
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Post by jd on Apr 5, 2017 6:04:07 GMT
Apart from the imports already returning i'd only keep Williams. Lacho and Lee can go for me Keep Farmer and Ollie DC still should have another season in him Faceoff winning centres would be nice D men who clear the zone and are tough - too many of our d are too easy to move off the puck. 3 x snipers Oh and a plan b to be fair winning face offs is the only positive thing from Lawrence. 16 goals in the league as well. Just a shame 4 of them came in one game and that he coasts in so many games.
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Post by fishman on Apr 5, 2017 10:01:22 GMT
First and foremost Panthers need a captain, one that can motivate and get stuck in turn a game, out of the players we think will be here next season I don't think any of them apart from Brown but he lacks experience so maybe a new guy can come in early to help CN with his roster choices
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Post by PantherB on Apr 5, 2017 10:38:26 GMT
First and foremost Panthers need a captain, one that can motivate and get stuck in turn a game, out of the players we think will be here next season I don't think any of them apart from Brown but he lacks experience so maybe a new guy can come in early to help CN with his roster choices He was Captain of Uni. of Toronto during his College days, Alternate whilst with Oshawa and Windsor in the OHL too so he seems to have a natural leadership ability. He's definitely worth a shout at Captain. Just praying to god that Lee doesn't get it, doesn't get the A either. If anything I'd like to see a P put in front of his jersey number.
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Post by mattscold on Apr 5, 2017 10:41:33 GMT
If anything I'd like to see a P put in front of his jersey number.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Apr 5, 2017 12:50:24 GMT
First and foremost Panthers need a captain, one that can motivate and get stuck in turn a game, out of the players we think will be here next season I don't think any of them apart from Brown but he lacks experience so maybe a new guy can come in early to help CN with his roster choices He was Captain of Uni. of Toronto during his College days, Alternate whilst with Oshawa and Windsor in the OHL too so he seems to have a natural leadership ability. He's definitely worth a shout at Captain. Just praying to god that Lee doesn't get it, doesn't get the A either. If anything I'd like to see a P put in front of his jersey number. And take Lacho with him.
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Post by tim27 on Apr 5, 2017 16:37:02 GMT
Who I would and would not re-sign and why
Netmindes 20 Miika Wiikman - No, misses to many games through injury and sickness. plus does not have great stats. 34 Dan Green - No, get a young kid in and develop him. 72 Jindrich Pacl - No, Not good enough to warrant an import slot. Defencemen
06 Jeff Dimmen - No, Injury prone. 15 Andy Sertich - No, Not the player we thought we were getting. 33 Dan Spang - Yes, Played too many minutes which affected his performance. place him in a decent team with a good stay and home defenceman and he will shine. Needs to stop his play acting though. 44 Geoff Waugh - No, too injury prone. 45 Steve Lee - Yes, but do not play him like hes our top defenceman because he is not. Will do will as our 5th/6th Dman. Forwards
05 David Clarke - Yes, but not as coach. 07 Robert Lachowicz - Yes, but let him play a more offensive game, his natural defensive play will still happen. 09 Alex Nikiforuk - No, works hard but is simply not good enough. 13 Brian McGrattan - Yes, does what we expected, maybe needs to be more proactive in his enforcing duties though. 14 Stephen Schultz - No, Should of been released as soon as he refused to play. Also too injury prone. 16 Jeff Brown - Yes, as part of a 3rd/4th hardworking hard hitting line. 17 Matt Carter - No, best hands in the league but no speed and no work ethic. 18 Chris Lawrence - No, All the talent but also no work ethic. 19 Robert Farmer - Yes, Easiest decision. 24 Brad Moran - No, should retire. 29 Erik Lindhagen - Yes, good utility player. 39 Logan MacMillan - No, Should never of been re-signed. 74 Ollie Betteridge - Yes, capable of a few more minute, not loads but has a lot going for his game. (speed great shot and finishes his hits.) 93 Jason Williams - No, as good as he is, you can not sign him as our go to guy if you have doubts over his fitness. 94 Deivids Sarkanis - No, Why did we sign him again.
So I think I have 9 players back and only 4 of them imports.
I would not have Clarke as a coach, sorry but where is his experience? Coaching kids? Plus you know what will happen, we will get rid of Corey and the same situation would be reborn with Clarke then becoming head coach.
We need a coach who demands the highest standards of his players both on and off the ice. Plus a coach that knows it is his responsibility to motivate his players!
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Post by fishman on Apr 11, 2017 14:08:41 GMT
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