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Post by fishman on Feb 7, 2017 20:39:43 GMT
How many D players do Panthers have to go down to before they sign players
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Post by iginla on Feb 7, 2017 21:02:20 GMT
It's ok,we have plenty of forwards we can switch to D.......Oh hang on ! 🙄
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Post by nate24 on Feb 7, 2017 23:44:15 GMT
Well it's not like they had the exact same situation last last season to learn from.....
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Post by iginla on Feb 7, 2017 23:54:17 GMT
Well it's not like they had the exact same situation last last season to learn from..... ......Or the season before ! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 1:18:50 GMT
Season objective has been achieved. No need to sign anyone.
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Post by PantherB on Feb 8, 2017 14:55:43 GMT
Signing deadline will be upon us very shortly.
We're only down 1 defenceman, whose on the roster. The other gaps are caused by Oakford and Swindlehurst's departures which haven't been filled.
We need to get a couple more Brit D in over the offseason, send them across to Mike Ellis in Canada to work on their skating and speed like Jeff Brown did, and hopefully after a few pre-season games they'll be close to EIHL speed. Signing Brits straight from the EPL/Juniors always sees speed and fitness issues arise and there's no reason why they can't be eliminated early on. Ellis has Dave Matsos working on the programme too and he's a Head Coach in the OHL, so he's got more than enough experience in developing youngsters and helping them get to the next level.
If we don't bring in at least another British defenceman and perhaps a forward too depending on Clarke's future, in the offseason then I won't be heading into next season very hopeful.
Get Brock Wilson over for a Pre-Season too to get our permanently injury prone players into decent shape, and see if he can bring Tarasenko over for September and the CHL, haha.
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Post by fishman on Feb 8, 2017 15:26:44 GMT
Signing deadline will be upon us very shortly. We're only down 1 defenceman, whose on the roster. The other gaps are caused by Oakford and Swindlehurst's departures which haven't been filled. We need to get a couple more Brit D in over the offseason, send them across to Mike Ellis in Canada to work on their skating and speed like Jeff Brown did, and hopefully after a few pre-season games they'll be close to EIHL speed. Signing Brits straight from the EPL/Juniors always sees speed and fitness issues arise and there's no reason why they can't be eliminated early on. Ellis has Dave Matsos working on the programme too and he's a Head Coach in the OHL, so he's got more than enough experience in developing youngsters and helping them get to the next level. If we don't bring in at least another British defenceman and perhaps a forward too depending on Clarke's future, in the offseason then I won't be heading into next season very hopeful. Get Brock Wilson over for a Pre-Season too to get our permanently injury prone players into decent shape, and see if he can bring Tarasenko over for September and the CHL, haha. It's alright going on about next season, but at this moment Panthers have 4 proper D men and 1 D/F in Lindhagen and a press ganged forward play D covering for injuries, so I would say that's a concern. By Playing Lindhagen and MacMillan on D leaving an already depleted forwards line up even shorter on bodies. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 8, 2017 16:53:48 GMT
Signing deadline will be upon us very shortly. We're only down 1 defenceman, whose on the roster. The other gaps are caused by Oakford and Swindlehurst's departures which haven't been filled. We need to get a couple more Brit D in over the offseason, send them across to Mike Ellis in Canada to work on their skating and speed like Jeff Brown did, and hopefully after a few pre-season games they'll be close to EIHL speed. Signing Brits straight from the EPL/Juniors always sees speed and fitness issues arise and there's no reason why they can't be eliminated early on. Ellis has Dave Matsos working on the programme too and he's a Head Coach in the OHL, so he's got more than enough experience in developing youngsters and helping them get to the next level. If we don't bring in at least another British defenceman and perhaps a forward too depending on Clarke's future, in the offseason then I won't be heading into next season very hopeful. Get Brock Wilson over for a Pre-Season too to get our permanently injury prone players into decent shape, and see if he can bring Tarasenko over for September and the CHL, haha. Oooh I bet Mike Ellis would be ever so thrilled to help.....after the way Panthers treated him ! That's not very likely 😑 |
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Post by PantherB on Feb 8, 2017 18:04:04 GMT
Signing deadline will be upon us very shortly. We're only down 1 defenceman, whose on the roster. The other gaps are caused by Oakford and Swindlehurst's departures which haven't been filled. We need to get a couple more Brit D in over the offseason, send them across to Mike Ellis in Canada to work on their skating and speed like Jeff Brown did, and hopefully after a few pre-season games they'll be close to EIHL speed. Signing Brits straight from the EPL/Juniors always sees speed and fitness issues arise and there's no reason why they can't be eliminated early on. Ellis has Dave Matsos working on the programme too and he's a Head Coach in the OHL, so he's got more than enough experience in developing youngsters and helping them get to the next level. If we don't bring in at least another British defenceman and perhaps a forward too depending on Clarke's future, in the offseason then I won't be heading into next season very hopeful. Get Brock Wilson over for a Pre-Season too to get our permanently injury prone players into decent shape, and see if he can bring Tarasenko over for September and the CHL, haha. It's alright going on about next season, but at this moment Panthers have 4 proper D men and 1 D/F in Lindhagen and a press ganged forward play D covering for injuries, so I would say that's a concern. By Playing Lindhagen and MacMillan on D leaving an already depleted forwards line up even shorter on bodies. It is a concern for sure, but it's a concern that I can't see Black giving Corey the money to sort out. Black wanted the Continental Cup, he's got it, the season is a success to him and with him getting what he wanted I'd be surprised if gave us a bit more in the budget to bring in a temp for these last couple months. |
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Post by PantherB on Feb 8, 2017 18:04:57 GMT
Signing deadline will be upon us very shortly. We're only down 1 defenceman, whose on the roster. The other gaps are caused by Oakford and Swindlehurst's departures which haven't been filled. We need to get a couple more Brit D in over the offseason, send them across to Mike Ellis in Canada to work on their skating and speed like Jeff Brown did, and hopefully after a few pre-season games they'll be close to EIHL speed. Signing Brits straight from the EPL/Juniors always sees speed and fitness issues arise and there's no reason why they can't be eliminated early on. Ellis has Dave Matsos working on the programme too and he's a Head Coach in the OHL, so he's got more than enough experience in developing youngsters and helping them get to the next level. If we don't bring in at least another British defenceman and perhaps a forward too depending on Clarke's future, in the offseason then I won't be heading into next season very hopeful. Get Brock Wilson over for a Pre-Season too to get our permanently injury prone players into decent shape, and see if he can bring Tarasenko over for September and the CHL, haha. Oooh I bet Mike Ellis would be ever so thrilled to help.....after the way Panthers treated him ! That's not very likely 😑 He can't be holding the grudge in too high a regard to have been more than pleased to give Brown a good reference for us! |
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Post by iginla on Feb 8, 2017 20:21:56 GMT
It's alright going on about next season, but at this moment Panthers have 4 proper D men and 1 D/F in Lindhagen and a press ganged forward play D covering for injuries, so I would say that's a concern. By Playing Lindhagen and MacMillan on D leaving an already depleted forwards line up even shorter on bodies. It is a concern for sure, but it's a concern that I can't see Black giving Corey the money to sort out. Black wanted the Continental Cup, he's got it, the season is a success to him and with him getting what he wanted I'd be surprised if gave us a bit more in the budget to bring in a temp for these last couple months. We are going to need more than "a temp" to make any sort of success in the challenge cup or play offs this season. A Dman and a top quality first line forward for a start ! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 21:05:44 GMT
It is a concern for sure, but it's a concern that I can't see Black giving Corey the money to sort out. Black wanted the Continental Cup, he's got it, the season is a success to him and with him getting what he wanted I'd be surprised if gave us a bit more in the budget to bring in a temp for these last couple months. We are going to need more than "a temp" to make any sort of success in the challenge cup or play offs this season. A Dman and a top quality first line forward for a start ! I told you Iggy nothing is happening  |
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Post by iginla on Feb 8, 2017 21:08:32 GMT
We are going to need more than "a temp" to make any sort of success in the challenge cup or play offs this season. A Dman and a top quality first line forward for a start ! I told you Iggy nothing is happening Hahaha right mate......😄😄😄 You get saving for that pint ! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 21:21:18 GMT
I told you Iggy nothing is happening Hahaha right mate......😄😄😄 You get saving for that pint ! So before next Tuesday we ll have a new player then .. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 8, 2017 22:03:48 GMT
Hahaha right mate......😄😄😄 You get saving for that pint ! So before next Tuesday we ll have a new player then .. We better bloody well have,with two of our best imports missing the rest of the season ! |
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Post by Rob Scott on Feb 9, 2017 10:06:09 GMT
How many times have we played at "full strength" this season?
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Post by iginla on Feb 9, 2017 10:32:59 GMT
How many times have we played at "full strength" this season? Only FOUR times we have been at full strength all season ! Max we can ice is 20 players (14 imports and 6 Brits). |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 9, 2017 11:32:36 GMT
How many times have we played at "full strength" this season? Only FOUR times we have been at full strength all season ! Max we can ice is 20 players (14 imports and 6 Brits). That is just unreal. Whatever is the point to be honest. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 9, 2017 12:05:10 GMT
Only FOUR times we have been at full strength all season ! Max we can ice is 20 players (14 imports and 6 Brits). That is just unreal. Whatever is the point to be honest. When we are turning out almost every game with 17,18 or 19 players against the likes of Cardiff/Sheffield/Belfast with consistently 20,21,22 players it's no wonder we are continually trailing abysmally in 4th or 5th place. Our management/coach need a damn good kick up the pants. The picture is going to get worse very soon too if we don't get that cheque book out ! |
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Post by Yotes on Feb 9, 2017 12:36:48 GMT
The picture is going to get worse very soon too What does that mean? Is someone else injured? |
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Feb 9, 2017 12:47:58 GMT
surely there must be a decent standard import forward out there that we can ask to play on D ?
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Post by PantherB on Feb 9, 2017 12:50:22 GMT
We can't play at full strength due to having too few Brits. We've got 19 skaters on the roster, 5 of those are Brits. We'd need another Brit or two to have a chance to be at full strength across an entire season.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Feb 9, 2017 13:06:13 GMT
Make of this lot what you will. I've not tried to verify the accuracy just extracted the league statistics off the Eliteprospects website. Stats relate to out-skaters only as Panthers naming two import goalies is a merely covering up the issue as both of Pacl and Wiikman can't ice at the same time.
Panthers: Games 36 Average No of Skaters 16.33 Average import skaters 11.94 Imports playing every game 8
Steelers: Games 38 Average No of Skaters 17.89 Average import skaters 12.32 Imports playing every game 5
Devils: Games 38 Average No of Skaters 18.95 Average import skaters 13.87 Imports playing every game 5
Giants: Games 39 Average No of Skaters 17.62 Average import skaters 13.64 Imports playing every game 4
By my reckoning that means Panthers has lost 38 import games effectively one import skater short every night compare this to Cardiff who have been 5 short over the season. The other stand out stat is the number of imports that have iced every game. Shows that we are flogging the same players where other teams have been able to potentially rest players.
As I say not verified the accuracy of the info on Eliteprospects, just extracted some stats from what they have provided.
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Post by iginla on Feb 9, 2017 13:49:48 GMT
The picture is going to get worse very soon too What does that mean? Is someone else injured? As i said the other day,they're playing politics. Just waiting for some good news to arrive,before they tell you the bad so they can try and bury it on a good news day ! 😉 |
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Post by Rob Scott on Feb 9, 2017 13:54:18 GMT
What does that mean? Is someone else injured? As i said the other day,they're playing politics. Just waiting for some good news to arrive,before they tell you the bad so they can try and bury it on a good news day ! 😉 New signing in and Williams out for the season? |
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