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Dec 28, 2017 23:28:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 23:28:35 GMT
And how does Shudra walk away Scot free ! I'm not sure that DOPS have finished reviewing yet. Seems they have, "After reviewing the incident, the Department of Player Safety has determined that no further action is required against Robert Farmer, Matt Marquardt or Cole Shudra"
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Dec 29, 2017 11:23:24 GMT
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Post by magicman29 on Dec 29, 2017 11:23:24 GMT
Those arguing for a ban for Shudra, the kids had a handful of shifts in the last month. Another game off wouldn’t change much. As for Fitzgerald, helmet or not, do you think he’s just going to stand there and let Gagnon throw his weight about with two of the softest guys on the team? Has he got the turtling technique off mosey?
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Post by texpef on Dec 29, 2017 11:50:34 GMT
yet again.... D(epartment) O(f) P(rotecting) S(teelers)....
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Post by ted logan on Dec 29, 2017 11:55:11 GMT
Those arguing for a ban for Shudra, the kids had a handful of shifts in the last month. Another game off wouldn’t change much. As for Fitzgerald, helmet or not, do you think he’s just going to stand there and let Gagnon throw his weight about with two of the softest guys on the team? Has he got the turtling technique off mosey? Ok, so because Shudra doesn’t play that often then it’s not worth banning him? So we can send Josh Tetlow out in the next game, beat the snot out of him and not worry about any ban because Tetlow doesn’t get many shifts? I saw more turtles from your guys the other night than I’ve ever seen so your Mosey comment is equally laughable. This bearing in mind you want to have a go at Gagnon for ‘throwing his weight around with two of the softest guys on the team’ who both turtled. Yet Mosey (one of the softest guys on our team) is belittled by you for turtling when Fitzy goes after him?
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Post by claretgiant on Dec 29, 2017 12:56:25 GMT
Bit baffling that DOPs state Gagnon wasn't in a fight, but then in the next sentence they say Fitzgerald joins a fight. Shudra should have got a ban for the initial hit. I don't accept that just because he is a young lad, who doesn't get many shifts that he should get away with a hit that others would have/would be banned for. Also have we reverted to the original DOPs with longer explanations? Because this is what it looks like to fans.
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Dec 29, 2017 14:47:23 GMT
Post by wasteoftime on Dec 29, 2017 14:47:23 GMT
I It don't matter what club you support the EIHL is a joke. It could'nt run DOPS properly now this lot have'nt a clue. Just accept what your given, the same things will happen again and the results will be different. It's a league run by fools.
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Jan 1, 2018 16:17:47 GMT
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Post by wgray on Jan 1, 2018 16:17:47 GMT
DOPS decision to ban Rosehill for the game against Sheffield today is a very strange one.
Their explanation of the ban is extremely over the top and that type play/hit happens every game. At most it is 2+10 for checking from behind with an additional 2 mins for interference, it has never been worthy of a game ban.
It begs the questions, are the league using the independent panel still and have their been other influences to get Rosehill banned to stop it from being a blood bath?
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Jan 1, 2018 16:49:35 GMT
Post by Shaggy on Jan 1, 2018 16:49:35 GMT
DOPS decision to ban Rosehill for the game against Sheffield today is a very strange one. Their explanation of the ban is extremely over the top and that type play/hit happens every game. At most it is 2+10 for checking from behind with an additional 2 mins for interference, it has never been worthy of a game ban. It begs the questions, are the league using the independent panel still and have their been other influences to get Rosehill banned to stop it from being a blood bath? I have to agree that it's definitely a penalty, and yes - a 2+10 would not be an overreaction at all. With Rosehill's track record for being a bit of a loose cannon, maybe even 5+Game, although that could be stretching it a bit much. Not sure I go along with "that type play/hit happens every game" - not basically sending him headfirst towards the boards... that WAS a potentially dangerous act, and thankfully we don't see them every game. Something definitely smells a little 'off' with this one... how often does a 2min minor get a request for review and then have a suspension given?
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Jan 1, 2018 17:05:31 GMT
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Post by wgray on Jan 1, 2018 17:05:31 GMT
DOPS decision to ban Rosehill for the game against Sheffield today is a very strange one. Their explanation of the ban is extremely over the top and that type play/hit happens every game. At most it is 2+10 for checking from behind with an additional 2 mins for interference, it has never been worthy of a game ban. It begs the questions, are the league using the independent panel still and have their been other influences to get Rosehill banned to stop it from being a blood bath? I have to agree that it's definitely a penalty, and yes - a 2+10 would not be an overreaction at all. With Rosehill's track record for being a bit of a loose cannon, maybe even 5+Game, although that could be stretching it a bit much. Not sure I go along with "that type play/hit happens every game" - not basically sending him headfirst towards the boards... that WAS a potentially dangerous act, and thankfully we don't see them every game. Something definitely smells a little 'off' with this one... how often does a 2min minor get a request for review and then have a suspension given? I meant that we see a lot of incidents that are similar to this and never escalate to a match ban. You could be right saying that his reputation has influenced the decision though.
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Post by dp on Jan 1, 2018 17:14:34 GMT
DOPS decision to ban Rosehill for the game against Sheffield today is a very strange one. Their explanation of the ban is extremely over the top and that type play/hit happens every game. At most it is 2+10 for checking from behind with an additional 2 mins for interference, it has never been worthy of a game ban. It begs the questions, are the league using the independent panel still and have their been other influences to get Rosehill banned to stop it from being a blood bath? Yeah this is bizarre. Again, VERY difficult to believe the league is being run independently when this type of decision continually happens, and continually happens in Sheffield's favour. It's not a dangerous play. He doesn't go in full blooded at all - it's a gentle shove, happens all the time. And it may be close to the boards but it's not hard enough to be able to cause any harm against the boards. Put it this way - compare it to Shudra's on Lee - no contest as to which is worse, more dangerous, more reckless, more likely to cause injury, more against the rules....
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Jan 1, 2018 17:36:00 GMT
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Post by Yotes on Jan 1, 2018 17:36:00 GMT
Game ban seems a bit harsh, I'm assuming Jay is no stranger to DOPS though so maybe it's a repeat offender thing. You could easily argue hit from behind and boarding, it's probably more than a 2 minute job.
The Yorks do love a review though. Homer must sit there with his note pad after every game.
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Jan 1, 2018 17:44:51 GMT
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Post by ted logan on Jan 1, 2018 17:44:51 GMT
Department Of Protecting Sheffield
Strikes again.
League is bent
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Jan 1, 2018 19:47:41 GMT
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 1, 2018 19:47:41 GMT
A one game ban for interference? Lol crazy. 2 mins that’s all. What next? 2 game ban for hooking lol.
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Post by iginla on Jan 1, 2018 21:03:47 GMT
Department Of Protecting Sheffield Strikes again. League is bent Yup,that's never a one game ban. And Shudra got off Scot free.....really ! 🙄
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Jan 1, 2018 22:54:26 GMT
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 1, 2018 22:54:26 GMT
Thommo is in ‘the club’ can’t sack him, he knows too much. Like Simms and Moran. Got to give him every advantage. The elite league is 100% weighted, you see it all the time.
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Post by marksteeler on Jan 2, 2018 21:30:31 GMT
Do love the comments about Rosehill, I agree it shouldn’t be a ban, but him not playing doesn’t really help us. A bit of a loose cannon against us who gives us a few power plays.
I’m more concerned in the lies from the DOPS in the Wallace penalty.
They said the right call was made on the play against Springer, but watch the video no penalty called by the Ref also check the Steelers highlights, the ref never once raises his hand to call a penalty also the Storm d man takes control of the puck before the fight starts so again the play should have been stopped before the fight took place.
I really don’t believe we are any better off than we were with Kirkham in charge
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Jan 4, 2018 15:46:15 GMT
Post by oldman on Jan 4, 2018 15:46:15 GMT
I think the new openess is far better than before, yes it leads to moans from the fanbase but at least you know everything about the incidents and how they reviewed them now, people are never going to be happy when it's one of ours or some other decisions up the road but that is just human nature.
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Jan 4, 2018 22:15:00 GMT
Post by Shaggy on Jan 4, 2018 22:15:00 GMT
Hard to argue with the latest one from DOPS... that video shows what a complete and utter tosspot Jay Rosehill actually is - including clips showing the reasons for his previous suspensions (of which the one against Sheffield was easily the least offensive). DOPS on RosehillIt also backs up what I've said about Finnerty as a coach right from the start - well before this season - that he recruits and encourages goons & idiots... after all, Finnerty knew what Rosehill was like at Braehead and still brought him along with him to Manchester. Quite frankly, British ice hockey would be much better off without either of those idiots involved in any way whatsoever.
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Post by dp on Jan 4, 2018 22:15:48 GMT
Another joke review on Rosehill today. Has he upset Tony Smith or something??
DOPS is just killing the EIHL.
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Jan 4, 2018 22:17:24 GMT
Post by dp on Jan 4, 2018 22:17:24 GMT
Hard to argue with the latest one from DOPS... that video shows what a complete and utter tosspot Jay Rosehill actually is - including clips showing the reasons for his previous suspensions (of which the one against Sheffield was easily the least offensive). DOPS on RosehillIt also backs up what I've said about Finnerty as a coach right from the start - well before this season - that he recruits and encourages goons & idiots... after all, Finnerty knew what Rosehill was like at Braehead and still brought him along with him to Manchester. Quite frankly, British ice hockey would be much better off without either of those idiots involved in any way whatsoever. Just goes to show it's all about opinions! As you were writing this, I was writing that I thought the suspension was crazy! Agree about Finnerty though....
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Jan 4, 2018 22:25:46 GMT
Post by Shaggy on Jan 4, 2018 22:25:46 GMT
Hard to argue with the latest one from DOPS... that video shows what a complete and utter tosspot Jay Rosehill actually is - including clips showing the reasons for his previous suspensions (of which the one against Sheffield was easily the least offensive). DOPS on RosehillIt also backs up what I've said about Finnerty as a coach right from the start - well before this season - that he recruits and encourages goons & idiots... after all, Finnerty knew what Rosehill was like at Braehead and still brought him along with him to Manchester. Quite frankly, British ice hockey would be much better off without either of those idiots involved in any way whatsoever. Just goes to show it's all about opinions! As you were writing this, I was writing that I thought the suspension was crazy! Agree about Finnerty though.... I cannot understand how you can call that suspension crazy... Rosehill has a go at a Fife player who delivers a clean check - a perfectly good and legal hit! - with his stick... not dropping the gloves, just gutless jabbing at him. Then he goes and carries out a cheapshot - a head hit (called cross-checking, although I'm not sure it exactly fits the technical definition of that offence) on a different Fife player... then gobs off at the ref... then chucks his stick, and then starts clobbering the boards in a total mardy as he's being escorted off the ice! This is Joe Grimaldi-level stupidity... and as they show, it's not the first nasty action by Rosehill. From what I can see, Rosehill is scum just like his coach/mentor Finnerty.
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Jan 4, 2018 22:35:11 GMT
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Post by wgray on Jan 4, 2018 22:35:11 GMT
It’s funny how Rosehill doesn’t play up whenever he’s faced us.
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Jan 4, 2018 22:44:10 GMT
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Post by Chris on Jan 4, 2018 22:44:10 GMT
Excessive ban in my opinion. He acted like a child to the ref and I know he's a repeat offender and all but SIX games?! That's insane. I know the referees need to stamp their authority in these situations and I don't know exactly what was said on ice but a six game ban for mouthing off and throwing a stick just seems insane.
The fact he reacted to the clean hit from the Fife player isn't all that news worthy at all. I mean, we've seen it happen from players from all the teams at some point or another. Guilty of poor judgment and hot headedness maybe but jabbing at a player for a clean hit shouldn't be reason for any kind of game ban. A 2 minute penalty perhaps...
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Jan 4, 2018 22:52:18 GMT
Post by Shaggy on Jan 4, 2018 22:52:18 GMT
Excessive ban in my opinion. He acted like a child to the ref and I know he's a repeat offender and all but SIX games?! That's insane. I know the referees need to stamp their authority in these situations and I don't know exactly what was said on ice but a six game ban for mouthing off and throwing a stick just seems insane. The fact he reacted to the clean hit from the Fife player isn't all that news worthy at all. I mean, we've seen it happen from players from all the teams at some point or another. Guilty of poor judgment and hot headedness maybe but jabbing at a player for a clean hit shouldn't be reason for any kind of game ban. A 2 minute penalty perhaps... But he only got a minor penalty for the 'jabbing' (called Slashing). Of all of his suspensions (and there have been several!) I think only the third one shown (against Sheffield) was OTT. 6 games this time, for:- - Slashing - Cross-Checking - Abuse of Official - chucking his stick - acting out by repeatedly punching the boards - being a (multiple) repeat offender Sounds fair enough to me... simple 1- or 2-game bans haven't changed anything, so clobber him with something more hefty (justifiable due to multiple offences in one go)... if that doesn't work - get rid, season ban.
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Jan 4, 2018 23:06:24 GMT
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 4, 2018 23:06:24 GMT
Just diving the fun and excitement out of the game. Was anyone hurt by this? No Could anyone have been hurt, maybe, a slim chance when his sticks in the air. 1 or 2 games most for abusing the ref, that’s all it deserved. It is clear Rosehill is being driven out of the league by the old boys network. 6 games is a joke.
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