Roster changes?

[panthersnation]

As the title says... if this was your side & you was coach, would you be looking to make any changes? If so who goes? & what type of player would you replace them with.

For me

Matt carter goes to be replaced a centre that knows where the net is
Macmillan or brown no room for both so one goes for a player maker

I'd also be tempted with sacking a d man off & looking for a big tough stay at home d man.

Just a bit of fun really to see who woukd do what.

PN

[Mark]

Basically agree with the above.

[jdizpt8]

Macmillan out Ling in
Carter out Nathan Robinson in
Sertich out Lepine in
Corey and Rick out Adey in
GM out Kelman in

[Rob Scott]

Just a little bit of tinkering then....

[Kovalchuk17]

Carter out.
MacMillan out.
Sertich out.
Schultz out (too fragile).

Bring in 2 forwards that will focus on goals.

I'm sure McGrattan knows this guy: www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=3664

Bring in a 6'3+ stay at home d-man. Unfortunately, Sertich is good but too similar to Spang & Dimmen.

Try bring in a secondary scorer/ assister instead of Schultz. In previous years we'be had guys like Bohmbach, Francis and Galivan.

Finally bring in a replacement in for Oakford. Some early 20's Brit who is doing well, decent sized and either on a 2-way deal or set it out for them to be the next top Panthers British D-man.

[Bagheera]

I'd start with Carter and Macmillan out. Bring in Mosey and Lepine/Similar. Move Linghagen forward.

Then make a decision on Schultz. Replace him with a top end forward if we can't be confident of a good run in the team.

[pantherdman]

A full bench and settled line would be a nice start.

[PantherB]

Personally i like pretty much all thes guys on the team but the team has no heart. We need an energy guy, a guy who other teams see as a threat game in game out. We've got the veins but we haven't got the heart to pump the blood around the team. When you think of Steelers & Giants, two renowned League Winners and consistent contenders, first guys that come to mind are Mathieu Roy, Fitzgerald, Fretter, O'Connor.. Keefe, Forney, Mason, Benedict. All key guys. You ask opposition fans about Panthers and who comes to mind first, you'll likely get Clarke, Lachowicz, Farmer, Lawrence. So, an old but still got it Sniper, a shadow of a former player, a great player with serious discipline issues and a Marmite potential game changer. We have no heart, our heart was Fox, Ling, DAB, McAslan, Tessier etc..

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MacMillan can stay for me, always been a gritty, defensive forward so i'm hoping Cprey can mould him into a bit of a defenceman.

Carter, 50/50 on him. Scored a couple, assisted on a couple more and does quite well on the PP in terms of holding the puck and passing. Just hasn't been as much of an end product as hoped. If we get rid, will it upset camp? Likely so. Risky move, perhaps we start looking at his strenghts and see how we can build around him, he's got the quality, that's for sure.

Brown is a must keep imo. Great leader, he's fairly young, big body and not afraid of any physical stuff. Has injected energy into the side on a few occasions with nice hits. Stands up for the team, has 6pts in 10 games which isn't all that bad for a gritty winger. Although the points aren't there yet, he does have that Benedict type attitude and rarely gives under 100%, as far as i'm concerned i'd happily keep him in Black & Gold for the foreseeable future. If we get rid, he will get snapped up by another EIHL team, Fife specifically. Remember, you don't get endorsed by Ling if you don't have something about you.

If i had to give someone the bullet, it would be one of either Sertich or Spang. Neither have been awful but neither have been game changers as expected. We need a solid defenceman and our defence as it stands is too offensively minded but lack product. We get caught out so often and have to face so many breakaways it's ridiculous. Someone of Ryan Parent (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=9184) mould would be my pick, he's a F/A and has been on the decline in North America.

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The suggestions regarding bringing in Lepine, Ling and other former Panthers, though it would be awesome, we need to look past the Panthers of yesterday or we will never be content with new guys. Ling is back playing in a Senior League, he won't be back in Nottingham again besides a one off visit some time in the future maybe.

Lepine, not been the best start for him. Depth D now Binghamton have had a new intake of Prospects and Re-Assignments from Ottawa, currently serving a 3 Game Suspension also for Physical Abuse of Official. He will likely spend the season fighting out for an AHL spot and quite frankly, i'd be disappointed in him if he threw in the towel over in the AHL and came back to us, big step down. I do think he'll be back in Europe in a year or two's time but not the UK.

The Dany 'All-Star' Heatley suggestion, that would be exceptional but will Black want to throw a monstorous wage at him? Doubt it. His brother plays for Manchester Storm too and in fairness, i wouldn't be surprised if he joined them but purposely on a small wage so he can play alongside his little brother.

Mosey and Bohmbach are the likely returnee's. Schultz has hinted at Bohmbach's return all season long and Mosey will not enjoy the ECHL for too long.

[fishman]

For all the David Ling fans (including me) he's signed for Stoney Creek Generals

Get Ben Davies in and a stay at home D man get back to basic hockey like winning faceoffs, stay out of the penalty box and get settled lines instead of the pick u mix lines.

A short time ago I asked questions about Carter, Mac and Brown and I was told " its a team game" and you don't know what your talking about!!!!!!

[Jonno]

Couldn't disagree more re Sertich. I can count on one hand the amount of mistakes he's made this season. Reminds me a little bit of a Toneys (first time around!) or Landry type player - excellent positioning, strong distribution and defensively dependable.. It's often said that if you don't notice a dman then they're probably doing a good job - no he isn't smashing people into the boards or scoring goals (that's the forwards' job by the way) but is he defending? Most definitely.

That being said, the balance of defence doesn't look right. Whilst individually I've been pretty impressed with all of our d-men, as a unit it's not working. This has become more noticeable since Mikka's dramatic drop in form. Glad I don't get paid to figure it out.

[allingtonskates]

Nov 6, 2016 13:08:07 GMT fishman said:

For all the David Ling fans (including me) he's signed for Stoney Creek Generals

Get Ben Davies in and a stay at home D man get back to basic hockey like winning faceoffs, stay out of the penalty box and get settled lines instead of the pick u mix lines.

A short time ago I asked questions about Carter, Mac and Brown and I was told " its a team game" and you don't know what your talking about!!!!!!

brown is a class player.

[iginla]

Nov 6, 2016 13:10:20 GMT Jonno said:

Couldn't disagree more re Sertich. I can count on one hand the amount of mistakes he's made this season. Reminds me a little bit of a Toneys (first time around!) or Landry time player - excellent positioning, strong distribution and defensively dependable.. It's often said that if you don't notice a dman then they're probably doing a good job - no he isn't smashing people into the boards or scoring goals (that's the forwards' job by the way) but is he defending? Most definitely.

That being said, the balance of defence doesn't look right. Whilst individually I've been pretty impressed with all of our d-men, as a unit it's not working. This has become more noticeable since Mikka's dramatic drop in form. Glad I don't get paid to figure it out.

Is Miika hiding an injury again ?
That's what I would be asking him if I was the coach !

[panthers_nyr]

Carter and Macmillan (even though I like him he is too similar to Brown and I prefer Brown) out for me. Then bring in a sniper and a playmaker to bring a bit more of a scoring threat to the lineup. Unsure which D man I would cut to be honest but would defo bring in a stay at home guy, someone like Nick Petrecki, Ryan Parent etc. to balance out the D.

[shmyrohdear]

Sertich has been fine, don't see the why he's on the block.

Spang, utter trash thus far showed a few flashes of good play but nothing else.

Carter, "late bloomer" unless Corey is seeing into future i don't see anything other than a guy scared to get serious and shoot.

I also think we should be benching Wiikman for Pacl. I get that it's not easy when the defence is turning pucks over but with goals being let through as they are atm i feel a rest would do him good and sends a clear message. Pacl is hungry and shows it and imo can do us some good and maybe wake this team up.

We need a couple of guys in, preferably an experienced stay at home D man and a tenacious goal scorer. Change is needed.

[dill1015]

Id push lindhagen up front and get rid Macmillan. He's not as good as Brown. And bring in a big stay at home guy. We need to balance the D lines.

What we need up front is a playmaker not a goal scorer. we need a Ling/Fox/Tessier/Galbraith type player. Someone who can make something out or nothing. Im not 100% sure who id gas to make room. Carter is the natural choice, however i do feel he has a lot of potential but needs the righg line mates. very much like bruce Graham. Put Carter next to a play maker and i think he'll do damage. same with Nikoforuk.

[PantherB]

MacMillan won't go anywhere until we have a full strength defence.

Carter was one of our better players tonight, glad to see him making progress.

[mansfieldpanther91]

Carter has had a good weekend to be fair, scored last night and got an assist and another assist tonight, the way corey is changing lines isnt helping anything and I think he's the problem more than any of the players

[Kovalchuk17]

Nov 6, 2016 19:25:20 GMT PantherB said:

MacMillan won't go anywhere until we have a full strength defence.

Carter was one of our better players tonight, glad to see him making progress.

Carter made a routine pass over to Nikiforuk for the first goal. Asides from that he coasted the rest of the game and got hustled off the puck more times than I could count.

[Ghost]

Nov 6, 2016 19:43:55 GMT Kovalchuk17 said:

Nov 6, 2016 19:25:20 GMT PantherB said:

MacMillan won't go anywhere until we have a full strength defence.

Carter was one of our better players tonight, glad to see him making progress.

Carter made a routine pass over to Nikiforuk for the first goal. Asides from that he coasted the rest of the game and got hustled off the puck more times than I could count.

So did everyone else to be fair.

[PantherB]

Nov 6, 2016 19:43:55 GMT Kovalchuk17 said:

Nov 6, 2016 19:25:20 GMT PantherB said:

MacMillan won't go anywhere until we have a full strength defence.

Carter was one of our better players tonight, glad to see him making progress.

Carter made a routine pass over to Nikiforuk for the first goal. Asides from that he coasted the rest of the game and got hustled off the puck more times than I could count.

So basically you saw the bits you wanted to see to continue the hate? & such a routine pass that all others failed to make?

Besides Lindhagen, he was probably our best player. 10x better than recently, great passing most of the night, hit the bar early on and had a couple other shots. If you're picking him out over the rest from tonight as being the worse then i literally give up. He's not of the gritty type, he's a skill guy and he has great hands, people complain of having too many girtty players.. but then complain when some individuals aren't gritty enough?

[iginla]

Nov 6, 2016 19:43:55 GMT Kovalchuk17 said:

Nov 6, 2016 19:25:20 GMT PantherB said:

MacMillan won't go anywhere until we have a full strength defence.

Carter was one of our better players tonight, glad to see him making progress.

Carter made a routine pass over to Nikiforuk for the first goal. Asides from that he coasted the rest of the game and got hustled off the puck more times than I could count.

I agree.....Carter is like a grown up version of Lacho !

[cooperphil156]

Nov 6, 2016 8:30:51 GMT jdizpt8 said:

Macmillan out Ling in
Carter out Nathan Robinson in
Sertich out Lepine in
Corey and Rick out Adey in
GM out Kelman in

Robinson would want to be on 1st line wages - Carter wont be - He did not fit into the system
Lepine will be earning a lot more money - he is in the AHL!
Corey is on a 2 year contract - do you think NB would pay him off? Adey left Belfast because they would not pay him extra - do you think NB would?
Kelman? Interesting one - probably the best GM in the league. Why would he leave a project which is succeeding?
However we are again in deja vu territory. The league performances have been substandard - we got away with a couple of "ugly" wins. Too many times we have finished something like 4th and then made up ground to win the Cup and sometimes the play offs. Week in and week out it has been consistently below par.

[Kovalchuk17]

Nov 6, 2016 19:50:49 GMT PantherB said:

Nov 6, 2016 19:43:55 GMT Kovalchuk17 said:

Carter made a routine pass over to Nikiforuk for the first goal. Asides from that he coasted the rest of the game and got hustled off the puck more times than I could count.

So basically you saw the bits you wanted to see to continue the hate? & such a routine pass that all others failed to make?

Besides Lindhagen, he was probably our best player. 10x better than recently, great passing most of the night, hit the bar early on and had a couple other shots. If you're picking him out over the rest from tonight as being the worse then i literally give up. He's not of the gritty type, he's a skill guy and he has great hands, people complain of having too many girtty players.. but then complain when some individuals aren't gritty enough?

What on earth are you on about? I saw his whole performance tonight as well as possibly 10 or 12 other games this season and Carter was no better tonight than any other night.

I'm not picking him out over anyone else really, the whole lot were poor... however, I've seen others have good games and yet to see one from Carter. Not once did I mention about how gritty or not he is or should be.

My views on Carter have turned hugely since when he was announced. Take a look back if you want, I was a huge advocate of his signing and could really see the potential (as well as being the first one on the rumours section to mention his name).

So, nothing personal against MC but I'd rate him as one of the worst import forwards in Panthers EIHL history.

[jdizpt8]

Nov 6, 2016 19:59:59 GMT cooperphil156 said:

Nov 6, 2016 8:30:51 GMT jdizpt8 said:

Macmillan out Ling in
Carter out Nathan Robinson in
Sertich out Lepine in
Corey and Rick out Adey in
GM out Kelman in

Robinson would want to be on 1st line wages - Carter wont be - He did not fit into the system
Lepine will be earning a lot more money - he is in the AHL!
Corey is on a 2 year contract - do you think NB would pay him off? Adey left Belfast because they would not pay him extra - do you think NB would?
Kelman? Interesting one - probably the best GM in the league. Why would he leave a project which is succeeding?
However we are again in deja vu territory. The league performances have been substandard - we got away with a couple of "ugly" wins. Too many times we have finished something like 4th and then made up ground to win the Cup and sometimes the play offs. Week in and week out it has been consistently below par.

Yeah I was just doing this on the basis of if I had free reign what would it look like. Nobody said it had to be strict wage guidelines. pinch of salt should have been taken with my comment fella

[cooperphil156]

Maybe bucket full? And Ling would not be able to get around the family commitments one would presume.