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Post by PantherB on May 9, 2016 10:44:44 GMT
Neilson confirmed it was Ling who recommended Brown to him. Mentioned that Brown had been contacted by a lot of teams and Linger saw potential in him so wanted to help us get him before anyone else. Neilson also went on to say that Ling is a very picky person when it comes judging other players, but he saw something in Brown. Ling was also Brown's linemate whilst at Brampton.
Paper stats aren't everything people, even then Brown's stats aren't that bad.. There's been a lot worse who've turned into real gems. He's got a high recommendation from Ling, he's been approached by multiple teams and he knows a fair few of our current roster.. Good signing in my eyes, can't wait to see him pull on the black, gold and white jerseys.
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2016 14:34:09 GMT
Neilson confirmed it was Ling who recommended Brown to him. Mentioned that Brown had been contacted by a lot of teams and Linger saw potential in him so wanted to help us get him before anyone else. Neilson also went on to say that Ling is a very picky person when it comes judging other players, but he saw something in Brown. Ling was also Brown's linemate whilst at Brampton. Paper stats aren't everything people, even then Brown's stats aren't that bad.. There's been a lot worse who've turned into real gems. He's got a high recommendation from Ling, he's been approached by multiple teams and he knows a fair few of our current roster.. Good signing in my eyes, can't wait to see him pull on the black, gold and white jerseys. Stats are not everything no and he was a line mate of Lings yes,Browns stats are decidedly average looking at present yes. Then again,you could look at it this way,,....if you play on a line with David Ling,your stats should be bloody awesome. Remember........ # Bruce Graham. Crikey,you could even put Jordanoooo on a line with David Ling and he'd get 20 points a season !!!!!
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Post by fishman on May 9, 2016 15:20:39 GMT
Neilson confirmed it was Ling who recommended Brown to him. Mentioned that Brown had been contacted by a lot of teams and Linger saw potential in him so wanted to help us get him before anyone else. Neilson also went on to say that Ling is a very picky person when it comes judging other players, but he saw something in Brown. Ling was also Brown's linemate whilst at Brampton. Paper stats aren't everything people, even then Brown's stats aren't that bad.. There's been a lot worse who've turned into real gems. He's got a high recommendation from Ling, he's been approached by multiple teams and he knows a fair few of our current roster.. Good signing in my eyes, can't wait to see him pull on the black, gold and white jerseys. Stats are not everything no and he was a line mate of Lings yes,Browns stats are decidedly average looking at present yes. Then again,you could look at it this way,,....if you play on a line with David Ling,your stats should be bloody awesome. Remember........ # Bruce Graham. Crikey,you could even put Jordanoooo on a line with David Ling and he'd get 20 points a season !!!!! Your rubbishing the guy before he's even got here, lets wait and see him play before making any judgement.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 15:58:20 GMT
Neilson confirmed it was Ling who recommended Brown to him. Mentioned that Brown had been contacted by a lot of teams and Linger saw potential in him so wanted to help us get him before anyone else. Neilson also went on to say that Ling is a very picky person when it comes judging other players, but he saw something in Brown. Ling was also Brown's linemate whilst at Brampton. Paper stats aren't everything people, even then Brown's stats aren't that bad.. There's been a lot worse who've turned into real gems. He's got a high recommendation from Ling, he's been approached by multiple teams and he knows a fair few of our current roster.. Good signing in my eyes, can't wait to see him pull on the black, gold and white jerseys. Stats are not everything no and he was a line mate of Lings yes,Browns stats are decidedly average looking at present yes. Then again,you could look at it this way,,....if you play on a line with David Ling,your stats should be bloody awesome. Remember........ # Bruce Graham. Crikey,you could even put Jordanoooo on a line with David Ling and he'd get 20 points a season !!!!! I'm a goalie by trade, will give it a go if needed though.
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2016 16:14:18 GMT
Stats are not everything no and he was a line mate of Lings yes,Browns stats are decidedly average looking at present yes. Then again,you could look at it this way,,....if you play on a line with David Ling,your stats should be bloody awesome. Remember........ # Bruce Graham. Crikey,you could even put Jordanoooo on a line with David Ling and he'd get 20 points a season !!!!! Your rubbishing the guy before he's even got here, lets wait and see him play before making and judgement. I'm not rubbishing him Fishman,I'm sure he's a decent player. I just don't see why we need another hitter/power forward when we already have Janssen,Macmillan,Farmer and maybe Myers. Brown is basically replacing either Kolnik,Bohmbach or Lawrence,that's a lot of skill swopped for a hitter,unless Brown is going to suddenly start scoring which his numbers don't really suggest,especially if he was playing on a line with Ling. Where are the goals coming from,we asked this last year.....and it was proved right,because we struggled to score through large parts of the season.
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Post by shmyrohdear on May 9, 2016 17:20:17 GMT
Your rubbishing the guy before he's even got here, lets wait and see him play before making and judgement. I'm not rubbishing him Fishman,I'm sure he's a decent player. I just don't see why we need another hitter/power forward when we already have Janssen,Macmillan,Farmer and maybe Myers. Brown is basically replacing either Kolnik,Bohmbach or Lawrence,that's a lot of skill swopped for a hitter,unless Brown is going to suddenly start scoring which his numbers don't really suggest,especially if he was playing on a line with Ling. Where are the goals coming from,we asked this last year.....and it was proved right,because we struggled to score through large parts of the season. Where are the goals coming from? Maybe wait for more signings and you'll see won't you. Playoffs are still going on all over North America and you're questioning where our point production is coming from? It's May, Schultz will do for secondary scoring or may even be a 30+ scorer given a good off season and then a healthy year. Brown brings a good rep obviously if he's been targeted by numerous teams. Having players that can be solid in all three zones is key. One line of grit isn't enough for four line hockey as you already know. Top six mainly skill set, bottom six for grit and two way guys. As far as I'm concerned Brown is a good addition to our squad.
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Post by fishman on May 9, 2016 17:30:42 GMT
Put him down on your list as the extra import that teams are allowed to play.
What I would like to see is more goals from the likes of Farmer, Lacko, Clarke (if he returns), Schultz, Moran
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Post by pantherdman on May 9, 2016 17:35:29 GMT
Goals only come from paying top dollar. The net is the same size no matter where you play. Ling recommending him is a big plus, if he is Lawrence's replacement then great, if he is kolniks replacement, then not so great.
I am looking forward to seeing brown play and think he will do well.
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Post by PantherB on May 9, 2016 18:18:41 GMT
Your rubbishing the guy before he's even got here, lets wait and see him play before making and judgement. I'm not rubbishing him Fishman,I'm sure he's a decent player. I just don't see why we need another hitter/power forward when we already have Janssen,Macmillan,Farmer and maybe Myers. Brown is basically replacing either Kolnik,Bohmbach or Lawrence,that's a lot of skill swopped for a hitter,unless Brown is going to suddenly start scoring which his numbers don't really suggest,especially if he was playing on a line with Ling. Where are the goals coming from,we asked this last year.....and it was proved right,because we struggled to score through large parts of the season. Brown can score goals though. His stats would probably be a lot better if he played for someone other than Brampton, the whipping boys of the ECHL. Lawrence will be returning, you have my word.. He's bestfriends with Brown and wanted Brown to sign before he did. To me, Brown could become a Salters type forward.. Plays physical but can and will score good numbers. At the moment, the lines may look like this; ?? - Moran - ?? Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - ?? - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ?? Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford? Wiikman ?? ?? Obviously that's just a very quick guess but that's a good looking roster to me and obviously that's without At least 2 Brits and assuming Oakford will be returning.
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Post by wgray on May 9, 2016 18:36:21 GMT
I'm not rubbishing him Fishman,I'm sure he's a decent player. I just don't see why we need another hitter/power forward when we already have Janssen,Macmillan,Farmer and maybe Myers. Brown is basically replacing either Kolnik,Bohmbach or Lawrence,that's a lot of skill swopped for a hitter,unless Brown is going to suddenly start scoring which his numbers don't really suggest,especially if he was playing on a line with Ling. Where are the goals coming from,we asked this last year.....and it was proved right,because we struggled to score through large parts of the season. Brown can score goals though. His stats would probably be a lot better if he played for someone other than Brampton, the whipping boys of the ECHL. Lawrence will be returning, you have my word.. He's bestfriends with Brown and wanted Brown to sign before he did. To me, Brown could become a Salters type forward.. Plays physical but can and will score good numbers. At the moment, the lines may look like this; ?? - Moran - ?? Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - ?? - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ?? Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford? Wiikman ?? ?? Obviously that's just a very quick guess but that's a good looking roster to me and obviously that's without At least 2 Brits and assuming Oakford will be returning. you're missing the main man! Mosey on a line with Moran
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Post by Thomas Elliott on May 9, 2016 18:43:20 GMT
Seriously...
Making line combinations already? We've signed half a team!!
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Post by team on May 9, 2016 19:36:07 GMT
Brown can score goals though. His stats would probably be a lot better if he played for someone other than Brampton, the whipping boys of the ECHL. Lawrence will be returning, you have my word.. He's bestfriends with Brown and wanted Brown to sign before he did. To me, Brown could become a Salters type forward.. Plays physical but can and will score good numbers. At the moment, the lines may look like this; ?? - Moran - ?? Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - ?? - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ?? Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford? Wiikman ?? ?? Obviously that's just a very quick guess but that's a good looking roster to me and obviously that's without At least 2 Brits and assuming Oakford will be returning. you're missing the main man! Mosey on a line with Moran Well, the stats show Mosey on that line were 1, 2 & 3/tied in scoring. Sort of a NO brainer as KoKo could still return.
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Post by allingtonskates on May 9, 2016 20:03:15 GMT
I'm not rubbishing him Fishman,I'm sure he's a decent player. I just don't see why we need another hitter/power forward when we already have Janssen,Macmillan,Farmer and maybe Myers. Brown is basically replacing either Kolnik,Bohmbach or Lawrence,that's a lot of skill swopped for a hitter,unless Brown is going to suddenly start scoring which his numbers don't really suggest,especially if he was playing on a line with Ling. Where are the goals coming from,we asked this last year.....and it was proved right,because we struggled to score through large parts of the season. Brown can score goals though. His stats would probably be a lot better if he played for someone other than Brampton, the whipping boys of the ECHL. Lawrence will be returning, you have my word.. He's bestfriends with Brown and wanted Brown to sign before he did. To me, Brown could become a Salters type forward.. Plays physical but can and will score good numbers. At the moment, the lines may look like this; ?? - Moran - ?? Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - ?? - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ?? Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford? Wiikman ?? ?? Obviously that's just a very quick guess but that's a good looking roster to me and obviously that's without At least 2 Brits and assuming Oakford will be returning. ?? - Moran - Mosey Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - Macmillan - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ??
Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford?
Wiikman ?? ??
just filled in Macmillan and mosey where I see where they would fit.
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Post by allingtonskates on May 9, 2016 20:06:31 GMT
Brown can score goals though. His stats would probably be a lot better if he played for someone other than Brampton, the whipping boys of the ECHL. Lawrence will be returning, you have my word.. He's bestfriends with Brown and wanted Brown to sign before he did. To me, Brown could become a Salters type forward.. Plays physical but can and will score good numbers. At the moment, the lines may look like this; ?? - Moran - ?? Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - ?? - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ?? Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford? Wiikman ?? ?? Obviously that's just a very quick guess but that's a good looking roster to me and obviously that's without At least 2 Brits and assuming Oakford will be returning. ?? - Moran - Mosey Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - Macmillan - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ??
Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford?
Wiikman ?? ??
just filled in Macmillan and mosey where I see where they would fit.
say if we get Clarke and Myers back we would have only one forward slot left and if we get Kolnik back we do have a good team but Quick would make a major impact of how we play.
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2016 20:27:29 GMT
say if we get Clarke and Myers back we would have only one forward slot left and if we get Kolnik back we do have a good team but Quick would make a major impact of how we play. Well all I can say if that is our line up is.......that ?? on the top line had better be one hell of a player !!!!!
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Post by dill1015 on May 9, 2016 20:49:39 GMT
Brown can score goals though. His stats would probably be a lot better if he played for someone other than Brampton, the whipping boys of the ECHL. Lawrence will be returning, you have my word.. He's bestfriends with Brown and wanted Brown to sign before he did. To me, Brown could become a Salters type forward.. Plays physical but can and will score good numbers. At the moment, the lines may look like this; ?? - Moran - ?? Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - ?? - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ?? Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford? Wiikman ?? ?? Obviously that's just a very quick guess but that's a good looking roster to me and obviously that's without At least 2 Brits and assuming Oakford will be returning. ?? - Moran - Mosey Brown - Lawrence - Schultz Farmer - Macmillan - Janssen Lachowicz - ?? - ??
Dimmen - ? Waugh - Lee ? - Oakford?
Wiikman ?? ??
just filled in Macmillan and mosey where I see where they would fit.
I think they look pretty sensible. They only problem is Lacho. If he plays like last season whoevers line hes on is going to lose points and u cant really put him on a line with Janssen and farmer because hes just a waste. Unless hes a 13th forward and we're bringing in another forward. I still feel we need to build a line to get the most out of Schultz. Hes good for 30-35 goals.
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2016 21:37:30 GMT
The problem with the roster so far is goals.....or lack of ! Our three top scorers from last year were Kolnik,Bohmbach and Clarke.
Anybody notice something quite significant and common to those three ?
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Post by panthers_nyr on May 9, 2016 21:54:14 GMT
The problem with the roster so far is goals.....or lack of ! Our three top scorers from last year were Kolnik,Bohmbach and Clarke. Anybody notice something quite significant and common to those three ? I agree with you Iginla, we need more goals but you can't blame Panthers for Bohmbach retiring.. Its almost guaranteed Clarke will be back and Kolnik wants to come back but apparently has serious personal problems to sort before any kind of decision can be made so there's still a chance we can get our top scorers back but still need a proven scorer/sniper.
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Post by fishman on May 9, 2016 21:55:47 GMT
Only Kolnik gets everybody vote, the other 2 well, Bohmbach gone back to US, and Clarke my or not return and some think he's over the top!!!!!!
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2016 22:09:13 GMT
Assuming Lawrence is back that leaves one import forward slot to fill. If Kolnik is back too we would have exactly the same set of forwards apart from Brown for Bohmbach. Would that make the necessary difference to better last year......I don't think so.
If Kolnik didn't come back,it would need to be one heck of a player just to replace him and stand still,but to make the league winning difference that last slot has got to be a hell of a player.
That's where I'm coming from !
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Post by wgray on May 9, 2016 22:35:21 GMT
Everyone seems to be missing something here, Evan Mosey did not play a full season as a forward, if he continues as he has done last season it's scary to think how many goals he will get on a line with Moran and another top player, we have no concern for goals imo
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2016 23:22:09 GMT
Everyone seems to be missing something here, Evan Mosey did not play a full season as a forward, if he continues as he has done last season it's scary to think how many goals he will get on a line with Moran and another top player, we have no concern for goals imo You make a decent point. But,he is quite probably going to spend a certain amount of time back on D again covering for injuries. Unless of course,we sign some cover from the start.....but you just know we won't do that !
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Post by pantherdman on May 10, 2016 4:52:04 GMT
The problem with the roster so far is goals.....or lack of ! Our three top scorers from last year were Kolnik,Bohmbach and Clarke. Anybody notice something quite significant and common to those three ? Don't forget the 2 attacking d men we are going to sign lol People are predicting settled lines, come on now stop messing.
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Post by Optic on May 10, 2016 7:16:49 GMT
Lawrence is also good for goals, just think a full season with an on form Lawrence....
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Post by dill1015 on May 10, 2016 12:03:44 GMT
Assuming Lawrence is back that leaves one import forward slot to fill. If Kolnik is back too we would have exactly the same set of forwards apart from Brown for Bohmbach. Would that make the necessary difference to better last year......I don't think so. If Kolnik didn't come back,it would need to be one heck of a player just to replace him and stand still,but to make the league winning difference that last slot has got to be a hell of a player. That's where I'm coming from ! I would hope we were getting 2 more forwards on top of lawrence (kolnik and lings replacements) and using Lacho as a 13th forward. Then 2 stay at home import d men plus either oakford or swindlehurst. One place we should be getting more points from is Jeff Dimmen. He should knocking around the region of a point per game or not far off based on his previous stats.
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