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Jan 11, 2016 16:13:43 GMT
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Post by shmyrohdear on Jan 11, 2016 16:13:43 GMT
Regarding Lacho i feel everyone is stuck watching the offensive zone plays over the other two areas. He is very good on the back check, defensively speaking he's ine of the better forwards. He may not be producing but he's had at least three line combinations and has been put as a center at times as well. He's shown flashes when he's settled but how can he gain chemistry or form being shoved into different roles and positions?
He may not have been good enough however Corey has no managed him well at all either.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 11, 2016 16:14:29 GMT
I don't really think it matters why anyone doesn't perform. It's a professional sports club not social services. I think it does matter. Say he's being thrown off kilter by the many and varied lines of Corey Neilson, then maybe if you change that you get a 60 point Brit back? You can ask similar questions this year of Farmer and Lee too.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 11, 2016 16:27:38 GMT
I don't really think it matters why anyone doesn't perform. It's a professional sports club not social services. I think it does matter. Say he's being thrown off kilter by the many and varied lines of Corey Neilson, then maybe if you change that you get a 60 point Brit back? You can ask similar questions this year of Farmer and Lee too. Both should be of a standard now to show at least some of their previous form but in Lacho's case I just think his size is the biggest problem.
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Post by iginla on Jan 11, 2016 18:20:04 GMT
The minimum i want to see next year is 14 imports (plus one spare) and 8 Brits,but I don't want to see Lacho,as a so called skilled guy we don't need him,bringing the skill is what imports do. Give me a player like Boxill any day over Lacho.
That is if I can still bring myself to support this half arsed team next year !
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2016/17
Jan 12, 2016 8:09:27 GMT
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Post by pman on Jan 12, 2016 8:09:27 GMT
I'd personally gas lacho as he's offered absolutely nothing this season, and due to his passport, will probably be on a bigger wage than some imports. Also get oakford (as decent as he has been he still ain't up to standard yet) on a 2 way deal with an epl team. Give betteridge lachos ice time, at least the kid plays with desire and doesn't shy away from the physical stuff. Personally also fire a rocket up farmers hairy bum as he's been very sub par this season. Maybe try and tempt Tom Norton back as he's had a very solid season. As for imports I think we have a solid squad just we can't build any chemistry as the line changes all the time. Keep structured lines and keep the same level of imports, and use the money saved on gassing lacho, to bring in a spare for cover/rotation Could you tell me how much Lacho is on? . Agree that he isn't as physical as other players but do you really need a team full of them players? He's a two way player in my opinion, if he gets a goal great but that's why we've got imports like Ling, kolnik, Schultz and bombach to score. Oaky has been screwed over by the import ruling and is only getting ice time because of the injuries similar to what Norton had a few seasons ago. Norton won't come back to Nottingham now where he is the main d-man for the phantoms to then take a 7th D-man role. I don't think oaky will stand for it next season either, especially the import ruling going up again (let's screw the Brits over) and will follow suite like Nortzy, which is a shame because both of them are good players.
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Post by Mozzy on Jan 13, 2016 13:29:40 GMT
Next year you do have the option of bringing in an extra import and dropping Hewitt? Is Hewitt still 'playing'? Yeah, and he's scored more goals than Lachowicz this year.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 13, 2016 13:45:39 GMT
Is Hewitt still 'playing'? Yeah, and he's scored more goals than Lachowicz this year.
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Post by Mozzy on Jan 13, 2016 13:59:53 GMT
Yeah, and he's scored more goals than Lachowicz this year. Clearly the open mouthed smiley didn't work....
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Post by ted logan on Jan 13, 2016 15:17:44 GMT
Clearly the open mouthed smiley didn't work.... Erm.....that's not an open mouthed smiley Mozzy, this is..... You're right though, the British poodle has scored more goals than RL. He has less points though (winky face)
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Post by allingtonskates on Feb 11, 2016 16:33:27 GMT
if we want to win a league we need a captain like fox not like clarke
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Post by tim27 on Feb 11, 2016 16:48:53 GMT
Agreed definitely need a captain like Fox.
I have never like Clarke as captain and tbh up until this season I have never been his biggest fan as a player. but this season he seems to be playing hard. playing the body more than he ever has done. plus I like that Corey is making him play to the system more rather than trying to make the systems fit Clarke.
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2016/17
Feb 11, 2016 19:34:51 GMT
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 11, 2016 19:34:51 GMT
Lacho out, he doesn't offer enough in any department, he can't score on a level with Clarke and he doesn't get in and do the dirty work like Myers or Farmer. Give Ollie some ice. Extra import Forward would be ideal so add to the fire power. Think Oakford has done a solid job this year and can push on more next season if he gets the ice. Of the imports we have I'd like us to keep a fair few to be honest. Need a new import D to replace Schmidt if he sticks with his retirements plan. Bohmbach Shultz Kolnik Janssen MacMillan & Mosey I'd like to think we'd sign them up again sharpish, we have Moran Waugh and Dimmen on two year deals I believe so there's 9 already. A fully fit Wiikman is a no brainer as well. So that leaves Lawrence who I wouldn't resign as I feel he's too hot and cold. Constant lines, improved strength and conditioning coaching and a new coach to freshen it up could lead up to the title again. This team is very capable of it.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:37:40 GMT
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 11, 2016 19:37:40 GMT
I'd personally gas lacho as he's offered absolutely nothing this season, and due to his passport, will probably be on a bigger wage than some imports. Also get oakford (as decent as he has been he still ain't up to standard yet) on a 2 way deal with an epl team. Give betteridge lachos ice time, at least the kid plays with desire and doesn't shy away from the physical stuff. Personally also fire a rocket up farmers hairy bum as he's been very sub par this season. Maybe try and tempt Tom Norton back as he's had a very solid season. As for imports I think we have a solid squad just we can't build any chemistry as the line changes all the time. Keep structured lines and keep the same level of imports, and use the money saved on gassing lacho, to bring in a spare for cover/rotation Could you tell me how much Lacho is on? . Agree that he isn't as physical as other players but do you really need a team full of them players? He's a two way player in my opinion, if he gets a goal great but that's why we've got imports like Ling, kolnik, Schultz and bombach to score. Oaky has been screwed over by the import ruling and is only getting ice time because of the injuries similar to what Norton had a few seasons ago. Norton won't come back to Nottingham now where he is the main d-man for the phantoms to then take a 7th D-man role. I don't think oaky will stand for it next season either, especially the import ruling going up again (let's screw the Brits over) and will follow suite like Nortzy, which is a shame because both of them are good players. Anything more then playing for free would be paying way too much for him this season.
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Post by Bagheera on Feb 11, 2016 20:17:55 GMT
Would have agreed with you jdizpt8 for the majority of the last 2 seasons(including this). However we have seen some improvement the last 4/5 games. O.k that doesn't mean much as yet, but if he can continue to build confidence and get close to what we know he can do he will be worth having back. It would have to been with a wage cut mind.
As for Norton. He's not even a patch on Oakford. Sam has been great the last few weeks and shown that he can be an asset to this team. He still has a way to go to be truely reliable game in game out. However he wipes the floor with Norton and it's a no brainer. Deserves his GB call up.
I've never seen anybody bring an irrelevant player in to so many posts. You'd be forgiven for thinking Pman was Nortons best mate or Brother or something.
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2016/17
Feb 11, 2016 21:35:28 GMT
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Post by dill1015 on Feb 11, 2016 21:35:28 GMT
I think the general opinion on here that Lacho needs to go is right. He's just not good enough this season. I do feel hes fallen victim of these ridiculous line changes all season. However its not a lack of good line mates, his basic skills just seem to have gone out the window. I remember when Lacho first earned his place on the powerplay a few seasons ago, he could pick a pass that would put most imports to shame and he bought a puck under control beautifully. But that has just evapourated. He needs to go hopefully for the benefit of both parties.
I think farmer should be looking over his sholder as well the remainder of this season, hes nit far behind lacho in my book.
This season shows the risk of trusting brits. Great when it works but if it doesnt your stuck with them because you cant replace them like imports mid season.
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Post by pantherdman on Feb 12, 2016 6:21:32 GMT
Full quote of imports plus 2 spare out skaters, 1d 1f. 5 top quality Brits, plus lacho if he wants to be here. 3 net minders, 2 imports and 1 Brit. This is the minimum required
It's ok to keep saying we are the biggest and best club in the UK with the best fans, well let's go and sign a squad which shows it.
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Post by GuinnessMan on Feb 12, 2016 10:31:37 GMT
Full quote of imports plus 2 spare out skaters, 1d 1f. 5 top quality Brits, plus lacho if he wants to be here. 3 net minders, 2 imports and 1 Brit. This is the minimum required It's ok to keep saying we are the biggest and best club in the UK with the best fans, well let's go and sign a squad which shows it. 6/7 Brits + 17imports? Personally, I think I would go with better quality than that amount of depth.
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Post by pantherdman on Feb 12, 2016 12:44:19 GMT
I would rather have 5 of the top Brits in the league than 7 average ones, average Brits are a dime a dozen and can be replaced quickly from the Epl. The Brits are irellivent unless they are near import level.
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Post by iginla on Feb 12, 2016 12:53:29 GMT
I agree Pantherdman.
14 quality imports plus one spare and 5 top Brits. We are not a training camp for Brits who are not good enough and make no difference whatsoever.
Cardiff have proved that that theory works this year,even with only three decent Brits !
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2016/17
Feb 12, 2016 16:39:12 GMT
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Post by shmyrohdear on Feb 12, 2016 16:39:12 GMT
For me i don't see an issue keeping Lacho, we need to balance his lines and give him guys that help compliment his game. This season he's blatantly being used more as a defensively set up forward his back checking ability is second to none. His offensive ability however has been under par all year and that needs to change but when you play a guy with four different combinations it will leave him no time to settle. He ended up as a center at one point.
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Post by GuinnessMan on Feb 12, 2016 18:58:47 GMT
I would rather have 5 of the top Brits in the league than 7 average ones, average Brits are a dime a dozen and can be replaced quickly from the Epl. The Brits are irellivent unless they are near import level. But you said 5 top brits, and possibly Lacho and Dan Green - that's 6/7 Brits / wages before you then split the rest of the budget.
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Post by Rob Scott on Feb 12, 2016 21:23:54 GMT
I think the point is up the budget....
The club has royally taken the pi ss this season.
We haven't played at full strength ONCE. Empty words from Neil Black before the season ticket renewal deadline......
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Post by GuinnessMan on Feb 12, 2016 22:35:07 GMT
This thread though, is about given whatever budget for 2016/17 how do spend it? Spending a significant amount of a finite budget for a spare import forward, a spare import d-man and a spare import nettie is likely not a good financial management of that budget imo.
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Post by iginla on Feb 12, 2016 23:10:06 GMT
The budget deserves to be upped though Guinnessman,our crowds are well up so we should be repaid accordingly. 13 imports plus 9 Brits v 15 imports plus 5 Brits is not a lot of difference at all cash wise.
Cardiff are top of the league with 15 imports plus 3 good Brits and 2 poor Brits,the formula is there to see. And that's on crowds of only 40% of what Panthers get !
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Post by yeti on Feb 12, 2016 23:28:08 GMT
How about spending the money the club really has and signing 16 imports including two import Nettie's, a spare import forward and a utility forward like Mosey who can cover D i f needed. Also nine Brits, One Brit nettie and six quality Brits and a couple like Ollie. One can be a spare Brit on a two way contract with an EPL team with Panthers having first shout on him so if some Brits get injured we call him up to play. This way we don't play short of Brits either. I think this will cover all eventualities.
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