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Post by EMB on Sept 28, 2015 21:23:41 GMT
Let's just hope if it is him that he comes in fit and ready, from previous pictures he looks dog rough. Still not convinced Ling is what we need tho'
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 28, 2015 21:29:28 GMT
Let's just hope if it is him that he comes in fit and ready, from previous pictures he looks dog rough. Still not convinced Ling is what we need tho' I think we have a younger, newer and possibly better player in kolnik and from the highlights he looks like a agitator as well
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 21:33:16 GMT
Just because he didn't look as 'busy' and his legs didn't move as quickly (due to size) doesn't mean he didn't work hard. Doucet worked hard when it suited him, when it didn't he was nigh on invisible. Was a bit to much of a Graeme Hick flat track bully type for my liking. What Bruce brought to the table was sound positional awareness and he was very good defensively (those sides of his game where both still there last year, he was just inept offensively). yeah but with out a ling you would be stupid to take graham over doucet There are certain situations in which I would take him over Doucet without Ling, not really the point either of us was making though but you have brought it back on topic. Well played!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 21:45:15 GMT
Let's just hope if it is him that he comes in fit and ready, from previous pictures he looks dog rough. Still not convinced Ling is what we need tho' I think the signing would firmly fall into the 'he can only help' category. Could even see him given a Johnny Weaver role, less minutes with a lot if time on the powerplay. At worst he's going to score a point a game (even if he comes in half fit) and instantly makes the 2nd powerplay line threatening which is something that it is currently lacking. It'd be great if he was coming over as a spare who was going to start his coaching (kinda like Benny in Belfast) behind the scenes, helping out offensively and given the run of the powerplay. Only issue with all of that is that he's too damn good to leave off the ice even at 40+!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 22:31:50 GMT
When Ling gets here,put him with Shultz and Bohmbach and that will be a killer line. IF he gets here. ...
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Post by kingmonkeybutt on Sept 28, 2015 22:38:20 GMT
That was a totally unnecessary comment As well as grammatically incorrect. Glass half empty, not half glass empty. i like paul balms articles that and farmer were the only alright bits of last season ling was amazing but so was graham then he came back and he just didnt live up to the hype, id love linger back hes great but i dont think we can expect the same we had off him we did in the grandslam season the stars just seemed to align
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 28, 2015 23:11:32 GMT
With regards to David Ling... it would be very nice to have the Grand-Slam-winning David Ling back, no doubt about it. Question is - if we even do get Ling back in a Panthers jersey, will he still be just as good? I have a feeling that a lot of people are letting nostalgia overcome practicality. Plus... even if he is coming back and he is still just as good... would the slot/salary be better spent on him or a player fulfilling a different role - maybe an out-and-out sniper, for example? It could be argued that the mix of players that we already have actually covers everything that Ling offered - maybe not all in the same body, but does the team as a whole have enough of each of his attributes so that whilst getting him back might be good, bringing in a different player might be better?
As regards Lacho... I have to disagree with those who seem to think he's either useless or scared. He's not the most physical of players, certainly... but he can take a hit and still keep going. It does make me laugh when some people talk about a player only playing 'non-contact' hockey or being afraid to take a hit... every last one of these guys goes out onto the ice knowing and accepting the fact that they are going to take hits that would send most of the rest of us crying for a hospital bed! And they just get on with it... Lacho was noticeable this weekend zooming down the left wing into the opposition zone and then dishing off the puck to a line-mate... seemed to work quite well, his speed was a definite asset then... and he is still a very effective PK specialist. His biggest problem is that he always looks for the pass rather than the shot... we know he can score for fun (most memorable example - the home game against Hamburg!) but he just seems to lack confidence in his own scoring ability. If he can get over that, he can be very effective indeed.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 28, 2015 23:42:17 GMT
Agree about Ling, Shaggy. He may live up to his previous stint, but past experience would suggest that doesn't often happen. Also not convinced he's what's needed either, but I'd still probably lean toward another import D personally. What we've got has started well, but they started well last season too. The original plan had Peckham in there too.
Lacho tends to score his points in patches, so not really worried about his slowish start. He'll have his moments. Farmer's started slowly too.
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Post by Dan on Sept 29, 2015 9:30:57 GMT
So, the Nottingham Post are reporting that all the charges against David Ling have been dropped........... I wonder why they're running this story? Why wouldn't they? It's a former Panthers player who was reported as being a potential wife beater. It's only fair they run that he isn't.
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 29, 2015 16:17:20 GMT
So, the Nottingham Post are reporting that all the charges against David Ling have been dropped........... I wonder why they're running this story? Why wouldn't they? It's a former Panthers player who was reported as being a potential wife beater. It's only fair they run that he isn't. yeah but how late they have to be?
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Post by lepine28 on Sept 29, 2015 18:54:41 GMT
I'm not convinced Ling is what's needed either but can't agree with the comparison to Graham. He was garbage before being moved onto Ling's line and then garbage without him again last year. Ling doesn't need other players to make him look good, it's the other way around.
Maybe a Doucet type goal scorer would be a perfect fit and he'd probably still be here if the club hadn't messed him around with his contact. Having said that with Ling on his line, I can imagine someone like Shultz could score a bag full of goals.
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Post by nate24 on Sept 29, 2015 19:13:36 GMT
I'm not convinced Ling is what's needed either but can't agree with the comparison to Graham. He was garbage before being moved onto Ling's line and then garbage without him again last year. Ling doesn't need other players to make him look good, it's the other way around. Maybe a Doucet type goal scorer would be a perfect fit and he'd probably still be here if the club hadn't messed him around with his contact. Having said that with Ling on his line, I can imagine someone like Shultz could score a bag full of goals. I wish we had 'with you without you' stats. We would learn an awful lot about some guys. So many guys come in looking like a hot signing but we find it is their line mates that set them alight!
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Post by pantherman66 on Sept 29, 2015 19:29:11 GMT
I am not sure about this 'love in' for Doucet, was he playing at the weekend? He is not a patch on Schultz, apart from his goalscoring, he hits on the boards for fun.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 29, 2015 19:29:24 GMT
I think you could argue to a degree they needed each other, as I recall Ling started slowly and getting paired with Bruce bought the best of him with the understanding they had. Plus Bruce's forty goals (!) weren't exactly all tap ins that any old donkey could put away. I remember him as a very cool presence in front of goal.
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Post by dgardner on Sept 29, 2015 22:48:16 GMT
I saw those lines in 1 & 3. Corey mixed them in the 2nd for some reason. i noticed this too, think this could be the reason why passes werent connecting in the 2nd and clan started to play their game
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Post by lepine28 on Sept 30, 2015 17:43:02 GMT
I think you could argue to a degree they needed each other, as I recall Ling started slowly and getting paired with Bruce bought the best of him with the understanding they had. Plus Bruce's forty goals (!) weren't exactly all tap ins that any old donkey could put away. I remember him as a very cool presence in front of goal. I maybe was a little harsh on Bruce there as he did have a pretty good one timer, especially at the back post on the powerplay. People were calling for his head though in October after a pretty poor start until him, Ling and Benny were put together.
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Post by lepine28 on Sept 30, 2015 17:50:43 GMT
I am not sure about this 'love in' for Doucet, was he playing at the weekend? He is not a patch on Schultz, apart from his goalscoring, he hits on the boards for fun. I agree Doucet had a poor game on Saturday but 6 goals already this season, 19 goals for us last season and what he did in Hull, can't be a fluke.
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