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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 18:01:37 GMT
I know, Beni did. Graham did far more 'work' than Doucet. mate r u for real doucet worked for all his goals he had with us mainly because he had no one with him and almost all Graham's goals were from long that's why he was so poor last season Doucet only worked when it suited him though, Graham was defensively sound despite his lack of speed.
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Post by BigLad on Sept 28, 2015 18:08:26 GMT
Graham did far more 'work' than Doucet. You're having a laugh aren't you?!?!! Doucet was our best player last season, worked his arse off...far more than he should've had to too!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 18:14:53 GMT
I know, Beni did. Graham did far more 'work' than Doucet. mate r u for real doucet worked for all his goals he had with us mainly because he had no one with him and almost all Graham's goals were from long that's why he was so poor last season You seem to be defining 'work' as 'work for goals'. Two different things.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 18:19:39 GMT
Graham did far more 'work' than Doucet. You're having a laugh aren't you?!?!! Doucet was our best player last season, worked his hairy bum off...far more than he should've had to too!! As much as people don't want to admit it Lawrence was our best player last season (well best out-skater). Admittedly I was never as big a fan as most seem to be when it comes to Doucet so I'm naturally inclined to err on the side of not elevating him to the level some seem to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 18:19:53 GMT
Graham did far more 'work' than Doucet. You're having a laugh aren't you?!?!! Doucet was our best player last season, worked his hairy bum off...far more than he should've had to too!! No, I'm not 'having a laugh'. For some reason Doucet has been elevated to god status by certain people. No doubt it's the very same people who still believe Lawrence was a terrible player. Doucet, while a quite brilliant sniper, went completely missing for large periods. Arguably all natural snipers do. Graham is/was a Power Forward imo, they tend to do far more work & get more involved in general play.
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Post by Shorty on Sept 28, 2015 18:20:47 GMT
I thought Lacho had a good game on Sunday. I hope he carries it forward.
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Post by fishman on Sept 28, 2015 18:30:00 GMT
That was a totally unnecessary comment As well as grammatically incorrect. Glass half empty, not half glass empty. A light-hearted comment, didn't think members would be so sensitive especially when Paul seems to go out of his way to be "glass half empty Guy", It is deleted
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Post by PantherG on Sept 28, 2015 18:32:13 GMT
Back on topic.... I think the post reported it as they initially reported the story when news of his arrest broke, so only fair that they have concluded the story for all to read.
If he has only been cleared today though then I can see it being him who has been signed as the club would surely know that his visa application would be declined with this outstanding.
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 28, 2015 19:17:00 GMT
mate r u for real doucet worked for all his goals he had with us mainly because he had no one with him and almost all Graham's goals were from long that's why he was so poor last season Doucet only worked when it suited him though, Graham was defensively sound despite his lack of speed. graham didn't work as much as doucet no way near mate
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 19:17:27 GMT
Lacho is so complacent it's ridiculous. He is asking to be cut. He seems to think he's set in the league and can meander along. Betteridge plays hard as he wants to keep the minutes. It's a real contrast. It is down to the coach to sort Lacho out. Disagree, Lacho is playing much better than he was last year (which I give you isn't difficult). He's always played well when put with 2 guys with great chemistry such as: '10-'11: Ryan & Bellamy '11-'12: Francis & Ryhanen '12-'13: Francis & Galivan '13-'14: Francis & Salters Can anyone really say with anyone confidence who his regular line mates where last year? I doubt it. It just never clicked, not just for him though. Now don't get me wrong I was a big critic of his last season, he rarely looked engaged and often disillusioned but maybe that was down to frustration. This year he's been put with Kolnik & Moran and he's more than held his own with them so far, his speed is a particular asset on that line as it compliments Morans & Kolniks (although he's no slouch) slower pace. He also seems to be throwing the body somewhat which whilst not his game is nice to see. My main issue with him has been offensive zone decision making (especially last season) but this seems to be on the upswing (hopefully he manages to pick up Moran as somewhat of a mentor). Defensively I've never had a problem with him, he gets in good position and clears the puck well, speed helps again here as quicker guys make excellent penalty killers. There's been a few short handed moments in the last few games between him & Mosey that where reminiscent of him & Francis (if only Mosey had the end product because he's got everything else). As has been alluded to elsewhere I think there's a confidence issue with him coming off of last season, once he gets a goal or 2 under his belt playing with Kolnik & Moran hopefully he'll start flying. He's not where he needs to be yet or where he was 2 seasons ago, but he's getting their again.
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 28, 2015 19:20:05 GMT
Lacho is so complacent it's ridiculous. He is asking to be cut. He seems to think he's set in the league and can meander along. Betteridge plays hard as he wants to keep the minutes. It's a real contrast. It is down to the coach to sort Lacho out. Disagree, Lacho is playing much better than he was last year (which I give you isn't difficult). He's always played well when put with 2 guys with great chemistry such as: '10-'11: Ryan & Bellamy '11-'12: Francis & Ryhanen '12-'13: Francis & Galivan '13-'14: Francis & Salters Can anyone really say with anyone confidence who his regular line mates where last year? I doubt it. It just never clicked, not just for him though. Now don't get me wrong I was a big critic of his last season, he rarely looked engaged and often disillusioned but maybe that was down to frustration. This year he's been put with Kolnik & Moran and he's more than held his own with them so far, his speed is a particular asset on that line as it compliments Morans & Kolniks (although he's no slouch) slower pace. He also seems to be throwing the body somewhat which whilst not his game is nice to see. My main issue with him has been offensive zone decision making (especially last season) but this seems to be on the upswing (hopefully he manages to pick up Moran as somewhat of a mentor). Defensively I've never had a problem with him, he gets in good position and clears the puck well, speed helps again here as quicker guys make excellent penalty killers. There's been a few short handed moments in the last few games between him & Mosey that where reminiscent of him & Francis (if only Mosey had the end product because he's got everything else). As has been alluded to elsewhere I think there's a confidence issue with him coming off of last season, once he gets a goal or 2 under his belt playing with Kolnik & Moran hopefully he'll start flying. He's not where he needs to be yet or where he was 2 seasons ago, but he's getting their again. I got to agree with you there and I don't think he would be doing as good if he wasn't with kolnik and Moran hopefully he can prove he is as good as he was 3 years ago and also when he was with Robinson
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Post by kezypanther on Sept 28, 2015 19:34:53 GMT
I'm still not Wether Ling coming back is a good idea or not. Yes he is very talented but returning players don't often do great and I would like to remember him how he was. Saying that if he came in and plays like we know he can then everyone will love to see him back. As for Schultz he showed at the weekend what a good finisher he is so having someone like ling to feed him the goals will do wonders. Bomhbach isn't lazy either and will start to score a lot more imo. Bohmbach is far from lazy. He won't be a regular scorer but I'd advise to watcb him for a full game and see how much ice he covers Think you read my post wrong Pidge as I agree with you.
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Post by kezypanther on Sept 28, 2015 19:43:22 GMT
RE Lacho
He is a good player and on the current line he is playing well but my main issue with his is he panics. He does this far to often he just gives the puck away or dumps it because he's afraid to be hit. Just watch him before a player gets near him he will get rid of the puck. I do hope that he will continue to return to his former self as he has been playing well just needs to get over that fear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 19:50:27 GMT
Bohmbach is far from lazy. He won't be a regular scorer but I'd advise to watcb him for a full game and see how much ice he covers Think you read my post wrong Pidge as I agree with you. Ahhh yeah
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 28, 2015 20:00:24 GMT
I was pretty harsh on Lacho in the Devils game thread, however I feel he had his best game in a long time on Sunday. Wouldn't say he was great but he was good(For the first time in a long time). Hope it continues.
As far as I could tell at the weekend he didn't play on a regular line. Corey played pairs of players together then rotated the 3rd player. Also Moran didn't seem to Ice all that much on Sunday(Thought maybe he had a niggle or a little under the weather maybe).
I saw, Moran & Kolnik Schultz & Bohmbach Myers & McMillan.
Lacho, Farmer, Janssen & Betteridge just randomly slotted in on any of those lines. It's certainly an improvement on Pick n Mix lines and seemed to go well. Im sure when all players are fit we will be back to fully settled lines and this team will really step it up even more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 20:04:23 GMT
I saw those lines in 1 & 3. Corey mixed them in the 2nd for some reason.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 28, 2015 20:07:36 GMT
You're having a laugh aren't you?!?!! Doucet was our best player last season, worked his hairy bum off...far more than he should've had to too!! As much as people don't want to admit it Lawrence was our best player last season (well best out-skater). Admittedly I was never as big a fan as most seem to be when it comes to Doucet so I'm naturally inclined to err on the side of not elevating him to the level some seem to. Lawrence wouldn't even be the best player if he was playing for the Lions. Lazy and disinterested and the fact he 'could' do it if he wanted to really just makes him even worse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 20:33:46 GMT
As much as people don't want to admit it Lawrence was our best player last season (well best out-skater). Admittedly I was never as big a fan as most seem to be when it comes to Doucet so I'm naturally inclined to err on the side of not elevating him to the level some seem to. Lawrence wouldn't even be the best player if he was playing for the Lions. Lazy and disinterested and the fact he 'could' do it if he wanted to really just makes him even worse. He was flawed no doubt, but who isn't? He came through for us many a time when nobody else did. The true definition of a marmite player, for what it's worth (not a lot haha) I'd have had him back over Doucet if that was a road we where travelling down but we're not and things are looking pretty good so far this season without either of them.
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Post by PantherB on Sept 28, 2015 20:41:49 GMT
Our chances would look very very good should Ling return, personally i can't see it myself but i do hope it happens.
As for Lacho, he shouldn't be anywhere near the top 2 lines, he's nothing more than a depth forward now. Far too scared and reluctant to get physically involved. He has decent skill and speed but a little shove and thats it, rush over. Even with Janssen and his intimidation, Lacho is still scared. If it was down to me i'd play Betteridge more than Lacho as he's shown nothing but good things so far, he's quick, grity and pretty good with the puck.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 20:41:53 GMT
Doucet only worked when it suited him though, Graham was defensively sound despite his lack of speed. graham didn't work as much as doucet no way near mate Just because he didn't look as 'busy' and his legs didn't move as quickly (due to size) doesn't mean he didn't work hard. Doucet worked hard when it suited him, when it didn't he was nigh on invisible. Was a bit to much of a Graeme Hick flat track bully type for my liking. What Bruce brought to the table was sound positional awareness and he was very good defensively (those sides of his game where both still there last year, he was just inept offensively).
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 28, 2015 20:51:07 GMT
graham didn't work as much as doucet no way near mate Just because he didn't look as 'busy' and his legs didn't move as quickly (due to size) doesn't mean he didn't work hard. Doucet worked hard when it suited him, when it didn't he was nigh on invisible. Was a bit to much of a Graeme Hick flat track bully type for my liking. What Bruce brought to the table was sound positional awareness and he was very good defensively (those sides of his game where both still there last year, he was just inept offensively). yeah but with out a ling you would be stupid to take graham over doucet
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Post by iginla on Sept 28, 2015 21:02:16 GMT
When Ling gets here,put him with Shultz and Bohmbach and that will be a killer line. Then sign a sniper or put Clarkey to play with Moran and Kolnik and that would be an awesome line too.
As for Lacho,I agree with most at present,his attitude appears poor like last year and if it doesn't improve I would sit him on the bench for a while and let him watch Betteridge play his minutes if I was Corey !
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Post by Pies on Sept 28, 2015 21:06:21 GMT
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Post by pantherlee on Sept 28, 2015 21:15:23 GMT
Then sign a sniper or put Clarkey to play with Moran and Kolnik and that would be an awesome line too. For the final slot i would like to see an offensive dman that could quarterback the powerplay as i think thats the only thing missing from the team at the minute IMO
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 28, 2015 21:15:42 GMT
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