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Post by thesponge666 on Sept 13, 2015 14:20:00 GMT
Why are we so poor in the media department?
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Post by tootootrain on Sept 13, 2015 14:48:39 GMT
GM the GM has long stated that he won't routinely stream games until games are routinely sold out.
There are arguements for and against but it's his trainset and he believes that running an £8 or so stream (which multiple people can watch) could hit the sale of match tickets which, truth be told, it likely would.
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Post by claretgiant on Sept 13, 2015 17:44:53 GMT
if this is the case, why doesn't it reduce attendances significally at the 8 other teams that DO provide webcasts. For example the number of Giants fans attending todays game wouldn't have reduced if there had been a webcast available, but on the flip side of that the number of Giants fans that would have purchased webcast would have added to ever grow Mr Black bank balance  just noticed this post on Twitter from a former Panther :- Brock Wilson @wilsonb25 · 2 hrs2 hours ago 2 of the best fan bases W/ no live webcast @panthersihc & @braeheadclan Mr. Black... Get with the times!! #Unacceptable #Revenue |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 13, 2015 17:53:23 GMT
All the teams in the league shoulld be required to do a live webcast if they really are serious about the league developing here. I remember the same argument about football many years ago.
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Post by Caesar on Sept 13, 2015 18:34:35 GMT
I Don't get it. The technology is there to do a webcast and to black it out for a radius of your choice. Madness
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Post by mmmbop on Sept 13, 2015 18:37:21 GMT
If GM is worried about lack of ticket sales due to webcast why not make it so you can view it so many miles out of Nottingham?
Sure Sheff did this once
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Post by pantherman66 on Sept 13, 2015 18:37:32 GMT
I have to agree with you claretgiant, I haven't come across any Panthers fans who says they would buy the webcast for home games in preference to buying a ticket for a live game. I am sure the club are losing money with their current stance on the situation.
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Post by acsmyth on Sept 13, 2015 20:51:50 GMT
It is a tad silly.
There would have been at least 300 Giants fans willing to pay to watch it. At £8 a pop thats a lot of money the club is missing out on!
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Post by Lawman on Sept 14, 2015 17:09:11 GMT
It only takes a few panthers fans to buy a live stream instead of paying at the door and all the giants money is lost
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 14, 2015 17:27:41 GMT
It only takes a few panthers fans to buy a live stream instead of paying at the door and all the giants money is lost Can't see proper Panthers fans being that cheap to be honest and if the live experience is threatened by a web stream then it's not the we stream that's the problem. |
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Post by wgray on Sept 14, 2015 17:58:39 GMT
The solution to the problem as others have stated is to set the viewing range so it is external to a certain proximity, simple as
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Post by cjmatt42 on Sept 14, 2015 18:41:32 GMT
I really don't get why this isn't in place and don't even think you need to restrict the area the stream is available. The bulk of crowds are season ticket holders and real regulars who I can't see you losing to pay to watch games on a laptop each week. If you want to go every week you'll still go every week. A large amount of the rest of Saturday crowds are people going to the game as part of a night out again won't be lost. Finally Sunday's are a lot more families wanting to take the kids out. Again you're not going to lose them to sit at home and watch a game on a laptop.
Offset that against away supporters and just as bigger potential of panthers fans at university, moved from the area, ex players, families of players etc and I'd be amazed if this lost revenue.
The simple question to me is how many of the floating type fans would know any of our rivals did live streams? The answer I imagine wouldn't be many. In general those that would know about the streams would be the most keen supporters who you are unlikely to lose from home crowds.
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Post by Mark on Sept 14, 2015 18:51:31 GMT
Quite frankly why anyone would give up the live experience for a webcast from a single camera is beyond me.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 14, 2015 19:10:50 GMT
I really don't get why this isn't in place Gary. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 14, 2015 19:33:10 GMT
Quite frankly why anyone would give up the live experience for a webcast from a single camera is beyond me. I don't for a second believe that they would |
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Post by bruinspanthers on Sept 14, 2015 20:56:51 GMT
I'm a season ticket holder now but as a student I sometimes wouldn't have been able to afford £14 for every game, but could maybe stretch to £8 for a webcast which I did sometimes for away games and would have been extra income
Whenever I had the money I would be down at arena however like many have said
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Post by bruinspanthers on Sept 14, 2015 20:58:33 GMT
Offset that against away supporters and just as bigger potential of panthers fans at university, moved from the area, ex players, families of players etc and I'd be amazed if this lost revenue. This is exactly how the panthers organisation need to look at this... |
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Post by PantherB on Sept 14, 2015 21:01:37 GMT
The more people that go to games, the more money for Panthers through tickets and merch. Plus more money for the arena with the sales of food and drink, that keeps them happy and if they're happ,y we have a home. It's Neil Black who's decided on the live streaming, Braehead don't offer it either due to the same reasons. You can't blame him but it would be nice to have the important/likely sell out games to be streamed.
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Post by iginla on Sept 14, 2015 21:15:39 GMT
Well Mr Black obviously isn't as smart as he thinks.
Because Braehead are selling out their little rink.....so if he offered a webcast there it could only make even MORE money.
They should try it in Braehead and see what happens to crowds,If they stop selling out then there's the answer.
Errr rocket science......NOT !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Peacock on Sept 14, 2015 21:21:04 GMT
The more people that go to games, the more money for Panthers through tickets and merch. That is massively flawed. People who can't get to the game, for whatever reason, contribute nothing financially to ticket income. Give them the option of a web stream, and then they do contribute. Panthers seem to be of the opinion that some people would choose not to go on the night and settle for a web stream. |
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Post by tootootrain on Sept 14, 2015 22:03:47 GMT
Panthers seem to be of the opinion that some people would choose not to go on the night and settle for a web stream. Are you saying that no one would consider this? (Standing by for "no true fan would" type answers.) |
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Post by bruinspanthers on Sept 14, 2015 22:31:47 GMT
The more people that go to games, the more money for Panthers through tickets and merch. Plus more money for the arena with the sales of food and drink, that keeps them happy and if they're happ,y we have a home. It's Neil Black who's decided on the live streaming, Braehead don't offer it either due to the same reasons. You can't blame him but it would be nice to have the important/likely sell out games to be streamed. I've stopped buying any food and drink from arena, overpriced which I could cope with, but service is terrible and slow |
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Post by iginla on Sept 14, 2015 22:38:47 GMT
Time to put a poll up I think.
Would you sometimes watch a webcast or would you always still go ?
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Post by Shorty on Sept 15, 2015 8:10:50 GMT
Personally, I would go to the game.
For a family though, £8 to watch on line as opposed to 2 adult and 2 junior tickets is quite a saving. If they are going to eat, a pizza delivered in its a lot cheaper than one at Pizza Express, even with the offer. Add in the cost of getting to the game/parking, drinks at the arena, then a family would save a lot, and Panthers and the arena would lose out.
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Post by pingchowchi on Sept 15, 2015 8:15:14 GMT
I wonder how much of the 8 pounds the club actually end up with - I can't imagine its much.
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