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Post by John Casey on Oct 20, 2015 22:24:59 GMT
This should be good, anyone else think that this could be the night that number 33 is retired?
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Post by dusseldorf on Oct 20, 2015 22:46:45 GMT
recent previous game Wow!! lots to response 2 1)The Big Blue Tent is an ice arena nothing more nothing less - We should perform. 2) Lings return will be difficult.But he can do it 3) The D need support. 4) Our Brit Pack are good but do they compare with the imports - sorry but don't think so.
Corry and Strachs know this !
Really looking forward to Wednesday well deserved testimonial.
Lets Go Panthers xx
J
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Post by dusseldorf on Oct 20, 2015 22:56:18 GMT
I agree Kowalski was number one We should respect that and what a great time to retire number 33
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Post by poker33 on Oct 21, 2015 0:37:18 GMT
In my opinion and I'm sure many others share that Kowalski's jersey should be retired. It would be very appropriate at the testimonial game and deservedly so for what he brought to the success of our Panthers Championships .
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Post by Yotes on Oct 21, 2015 2:38:49 GMT
I disagree, on 2 counts. Firstly that as much as I love Kowalski, I don't think we should retire his number. It should be the ultimate accolade for a select few spanning our entire history based on their playing careers for us, which hopefully has plenty more years to come. We got away from that last time we did it, I disagreed with CNs too, and still do. If we retire Kowalski, how many more from this era of Panthers?
Secondly, if we are to do it, do it properly. Make it his night, fly him and his family across, have a pregame ceremony on the ice before a big game, raise his number to the rafters (arf arf) and generally make a big deal of him, don't tack it onto another guy's evening. Again, not what we did last time.
I won't be overly upset if they do it, because he was the king of the NIC, but I'll be pretty peeved if they don't do it properly.
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Post by Carnell on Oct 21, 2015 7:11:43 GMT
The testimonial is for Corey, its his night, if we are to retire Kwalls jersey, then we should do it on another evening, like Yotes said.
I feel kwall has done just as much to deserve, if not more, a jersey retirement as Neilson did, but then we'll be looking at retiring Clarkes jersey when he finishes and before you know it, we'll have almost doubled our retired jerseys in a short period of time.
I'm sure I've read somewhere before on here the idea of honouring the player, have their name & number in the "rafters" but not actually stopping future players wearing the numbers. That way you can honour past guys, such as Zamick & Stongman as well
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 8:46:21 GMT
Whilst Kowalski was a great goalie for the Panthers, he was here for 3 seasons. If consideration is given to all players who serve the Club for 3 seasons to have their shirt retired, there would be no numbers left! He (Kowalski) has not been the best goalie that the Panthers have employed in the modern era, in my opinion Robins was better - should his shirt be retired as well?
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Post by John Casey on Oct 21, 2015 8:49:58 GMT
Hopefully after last weekends results, this game might loosen up the team and takes some pressure of them, which hopefully benefits them for this weekends games.
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Post by panthersdave on Oct 21, 2015 8:57:14 GMT
Whilst Kowalski was a great goalie for the Panthers, he was here for 3 seasons. If consideration is given to all players who serve the Club for 3 seasons to have their shirt retired, there would be no numbers left! He (Kowalski) has not been the best goalie that the Panthers have employed in the modern era, in my opinion Robins was better - should his shirt be retired as well? He was here for 5 seasons
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 9:53:04 GMT
Whilst Kowalski was a great goalie for the Panthers, he was here for 3 seasons. If consideration is given to all players who serve the Club for 3 seasons to have their shirt retired, there would be no numbers left! He (Kowalski) has not been the best goalie that the Panthers have employed in the modern era, in my opinion Robins was better - should his shirt be retired as well? He was here for 5 seasons Oops, my bad, it was 5 time flies. Point still stands though, there must be 20(ish) players who have represented the Panthers for more than 5 years.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Oct 21, 2015 11:21:51 GMT
5 years or more - there may be more but these spring to mind. Greg Hadden (shirt retired), Paul Adey (shirt retired), Randall Weber (shirt retired), Ashley Tait !! Imports - I doubt there are any that have played for 5 years or more. Brits - yes there will be, but any there any of either that have made as big a contribution as K-wall ? 4 CC, 3 P/O, 1 league title.
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Post by ashbournepanther on Oct 21, 2015 11:36:34 GMT
The one that deserves it is Simon Hunt.....now that guy lived and breathed Panthers
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Post by Yotes on Oct 21, 2015 12:01:45 GMT
5 years or more - there may be more but these spring to mind. Greg Hadden (shirt retired), Paul Adey (shirt retired), Randall Weber (shirt retired), Ashley Tait !! Imports - I doubt there are any that have played for 5 years or more. Brits - yes there will be, but any there any of either that have made as big a contribution as K-wall ? 4 CC, 3 P/O, 1 league title. Kowalski was a great netminder, best I've seen. But is it enough for no one else to ever wear #33 for the Panthers, for the rest of our existence? Was his Panthers career that extraordinary? I personally think you could argue Greg Hadden. Adey (record everything) & Weber (17 seasons, entire career) are the sort of things I would expect this to be saved for. Rippingale was of course an unfortunate exception. I just think they can be given away too cheap. Neilson got his for what he did as a coach, which is wrong, and in a few years I think we'll almost certainly have a #5 up there too, but will we also get a #8 when he goes? Even a #7? They'll all have played on those same teams, won all those trophies. There's a wider point about how these things are decided, it seems to me that it's currently done at the decision of one man (the usual one). Is that what should be happening? What if someone's worthy of it, but he just doesn't like them much (or vice versa)? Maybe it's just that I don't really like the number retirement bit. There's a very obvious flaw in it. Carnell mentioned the idea of a Roll of Honour type setup, they use this at a few NHL clubs (my own mangey mutts for one, but even a club as storied as the Maple Leafs I believe). I'd personally much prefer this to number retirements and I'd have no qualms at all about the likes of Corey & Craig being honoured that way in the arena, we could also honour people who didn't play for us, but still made big contributions (Keward etc), and people who we currently have to make up some guff about not knowing the number to explain their lamentable absence (Zamick).
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Post by Pies on Oct 21, 2015 12:05:44 GMT
There should just be a panthers hall of fame - a recognition of the greats we've had without losing every number going. Keep the 5 retired that we have but let's leave it at that.
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Post by PantherTom on Oct 21, 2015 12:48:07 GMT
Clarkes should be retired when he is done I think, and would be right to as he has been here well over 10 years
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Post by jd on Oct 21, 2015 15:09:51 GMT
There should just be a panthers hall of fame - a recognition of the greats we've had without losing every number going. Keep the 5 retired that we have but let's leave it at that. Could Rick, Adam Goodridge and Scott Poundall go into a HOF? I think they dont get enough credit for what they do
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Post by Pies on Oct 21, 2015 15:22:18 GMT
There should just be a panthers hall of fame - a recognition of the greats we've had without losing every number going. Keep the 5 retired that we have but let's leave it at that. Could Rick, Adam Goodridge and Scott Poundall go into a HOF? I think they dont get enough credit for what they do No need for restrictions - even put people who volunteer for years on end in there too. It's just about recognising people who help the club become who we are today
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 15:52:05 GMT
Imports - I doubt there are any that have played for 5 years or more. There are 10 imports, aside from those already mentioned, from the modern era I can think of, plus the obvious two (Zamick & Strongman) from earlier times. There may be more, but the obvious ten are: Blaisdell, Easson, Carlsson, Premak, Dampier, Kurtenbach, Tait and the three Keward's. There are a huge number of Brits as you'd expect (about 30 all told), led by Hunt, Bremner, Fraser & Clarke. So, if all these were considered to have their numbers/shirts retired, there wouldn't be many left! I think it's totally unfair to say Kowalski won this, that & the other so he should have his shirt retired, when the likes of Hunt, TK, Gary Keward & his Sons won less (trophy wise), but were as important to the Club (if not more so) than Killer.
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Post by craighead on Oct 21, 2015 17:02:27 GMT
Sport is about opinions: I for one do not think Robins was as good as KWall. TK and the other 80s lads I saw weekend in weekend out and as many years as they gave were barring one or two ( Adey, Durdle, Perlini) average in terms of talent. CN's retirement was not merited as a player , I'm not sure retiring the shirt was the right way to remember Gary; it was a tragedy and very sad; the other 3 were very clear. But that is just my opinion , others will have there's.
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Post by dgardner on Oct 21, 2015 23:06:03 GMT
Just like to say that thought this evening went very well and was a great tribute to corey and everyone who came back for the game, was very upsetting when k-wall almost did a lap of honour for the fans at the end, he looked upset and abit overwhelmed but glad he got to say goodbye to the fans especially, long overdue IMO. About the shirt retirements, feel that those who are currently retired definately deserve to be there and also agree that number 33 should be retired as although he wasnt the only piece in that team, its what he ultimately represented and how the fans saw him that truely astonished me. Also dont think its right to see another player in that shirt, like when wiederguut wore that number IMO it didnt feel right.
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Post by MODSTUFF on Oct 22, 2015 6:16:17 GMT
I hate Testimonials. It's nice for players to get recognition but the events are always boring in my opinion. Players having mock fights, players children playing/fighting and super fans running the bench. All too cheesy for my liking.
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Post by pantherman66 on Oct 22, 2015 6:24:32 GMT
I too thought the evening went very well, with more fun based content than the norm. It was good to be able to give Kwall a proper send off and I am sure he really appreciated the warmth from ovation given by the fans. I noticed Ling made a new pal, in Jonathan Weaver's lad and thought it hilarious that he still had to have the last say when they were slashing, tripping and punching each other,some things never change lol. I think it is great that all the players really seem to enjoy themselves, and get into the spirit of the occasion, i.e. warm up was more about meeting old friends, than stretching the muscles. They also took the forfeits given out for penalties very well, especially Chris Lawrence and Kevin Bergin. Cam Janssen obviously had a ball, and it was great to see him having fun and chatting to the son of Clarkie, something I am sure a lot of ex NHLers would not have done. All in all a great night with a few glimpses of the Ling's magic, roll on Saturday.
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Post by kezypanther on Oct 22, 2015 7:12:24 GMT
Really enjoyed the night. There were some cringe moments but it was great to see some of those players back on the ice.
Kwalls glove saves were a thing of beauty. Tessier still knows where the net is and like above it was great to see them all enjoy themselves.
I really hope the current team can push on and win us and CN some more trophies.
*Good programme read too.
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Post by dexter on Oct 22, 2015 7:52:10 GMT
All in all a great evening and really good to see K-Wall get the recognition he deserved from the fans at the end. That was a bit emotional actually!
Also, genuinely, special credit to Chris Lawrence! He took all of the sarcasm and booing in good humour.
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Post by EMB on Oct 22, 2015 8:15:34 GMT
All in all a great evening and really good to see K-Wall get the recognition he deserved from the fans at the end. That was a bit emotional actually! Also, genuinely, special credit to Chris Lawrence! He took all of the sarcasm and booing in good humour. I'll 2nd that one, Chris Lawrence.. what a superb sport, it must have taken some guts to come back last night and he thoroughly enjoyed himself. We spoke to him afterwards & what a top guy he is despite what everyone says or thinks about him. He's just going with the flow to see how things turn out he said & thats sport for you. Wish him all the best. Will also add that linger hasn't lost his touch, a couple of them goals were pretty good & Dan Tessier could & should be playing.
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