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Post by cooperphil156 on Apr 29, 2014 7:13:22 GMT
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Post by 5+game on Apr 29, 2014 7:28:56 GMT
So all the things that Suderman was complaining about pretty much happened to one player (Tom Squires) so Hull arnt screwing every player over just one or maybe two and we don't know the reasons why or the other side to the story.
Although squires has been treated badly based on one side of the story it cant be that bad or players wouldn't re-sign or come back to them and lets face it Cloutier and Tendler etc could have jumped ship at any time if things were that bad.
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Post by woogopanthers on Apr 29, 2014 13:02:19 GMT
If he has a contract that's not been honoured he could simply issue proceedings against the company he holds the contract with.
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Post by kezypanther on Apr 29, 2014 13:38:28 GMT
Im with 5+ game with this. I can't see how he seen as this big bad guy yet he manages to keep Tendler and Cloutier for the past 4 seasons ? Ok players could be holding out saying anything until they get paid but surely if there was a contract they can legal help on receiving the money. Im also not saying what squires says isn't true but there must be something else too it all.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 29, 2014 13:48:34 GMT
He could probably take legal recourse, if he can afford to do that. With regard to Cloutier/Tendler it's probably easier to give Tom Squires the mucky end of the stick, rather than top goal scorer or long serving coach.
As with all of us, I've no idea of the validity of his statement, although if untrue he's leaving himself open to a rough time of it.
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Post by 5+game on Apr 29, 2014 14:28:41 GMT
As with all of us, I've no idea of the validity of his statement, although if untrue he's leaving himself open to a rough time of it. At the end of the day im sure it is true but as with anything we are only getting one side of the story. |
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Post by panthertom93 on Apr 29, 2014 17:30:22 GMT
Why are they both going via twitter and online blogs as opposed to actually getting what they're owed?
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 30, 2014 5:41:41 GMT
If he has a contract why doesn't he sue?
Wonder what the rule book says about non paying of players......oh? Do what you want.
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Post by tootootrain on Apr 30, 2014 8:36:17 GMT
Wonder what the rule book says about non paying of players......oh? Do what you want. Basically yes, that is what the rulebook says. The IIHF recognises the independence of ice hockey teams/leagues and allows them to conduct business as they see fit with exceptions, namely with regards to disputes that can affect ITCs. This is why sports persons often have agents, so that people who are occasionally not the sharpest tools in the box (players) can have people who specialise in dealing with the small print and clauses of contracts (agents) to do their running around for them. Of course I'm sure you knew all this right? Or is this just another attempt to swipe at the EIHL using the (incorrect) belief it has no rule book, but this time using something that is unlikely to be in any league's 'rulebook'* as your blunt instrument of choice? (*Even in the NHL the Collective Bargaining Agreement which deals with player terms and conditions is not in ' the rulebook'.) |
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 30, 2014 17:41:11 GMT
No wonder the middle weight Brits feel better off in the epl.
Reading between the lines squires is the victim of being too nice, loyal and professional.
He probably should have walked out the moment his wages weren't in his bank and not bothered going to training if his car wasn't provided.
If what he says is true, it is nothing short of disgraceful and the fact that the elite league board aren't investigating equally so. Then again the board are the chairmen so what you gonna do?
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 30, 2014 17:44:12 GMT
Nhlpa is mentioned a hell of a lot in the NHL rule book.
What is the equivalent in the elite league 'rule book'?
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Post by tootootrain on May 1, 2014 9:48:34 GMT
Nhlpa is mentioned a hell of a lot in the NHL rule book. What is the equivalent in the elite league 'rule book'? You're grasping 'pantherdman'. Just accept it, the EIHL does have a rulebook, in common wth many other leagues outside of NA its the IIHF one, with local amendments as suits the hockey played locally. Also accept that no 'rulebook' covers every single eventuality/topic with respect to the league it covers, even in the NHL. This is why they 'refer to the NHLPA'. What is the EIHL equivalent of the NHLPA? No idea, but it isn't the EIHL's job to organise the union for players, it is the player's job. Where/who is the GB version of Ted Lindsey? |
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Post by texpef on May 1, 2014 10:27:07 GMT
the players at one time did have a union which was set up by tim cranston but i have no idea if it is still running..
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