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Post by pantherdman on Apr 14, 2014 17:12:30 GMT
Hope to god adey comes to panthers. You know Neilson is set for next season right? He's more successful coaching wise than Adey. Are you saying you'd sack Neilson to make room? 100% yes, imagine Belfast defence infront of kwall = domination.
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Post by nate24 on Apr 14, 2014 17:19:29 GMT
It rarely works like that. You stick with the hot hand. You don't change at the first bump. Changing coaches now would be ridiculous.
Neilson has built teams more dominant than Adey on a more consistent basis.
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Post by panthertom93 on Apr 14, 2014 23:02:21 GMT
You know Neilson is set for next season right? He's more successful coaching wise than Adey. Are you saying you'd sack Neilson to make room? 100% yes, imagine Belfast defence infront of kwall = domination. And by "domination" I assume you mean winning every major trophy? Like COREY did last year and like what adey was EXPECTED to do this year, but failed? Brilliant idea!
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Post by jd on Apr 15, 2014 10:12:17 GMT
Corey over Adey for me everytime. Why would you replace CN?
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Post by GiantsFan00 on Apr 15, 2014 11:03:24 GMT
here's a controversial point - I'd take Nielson over Adey too. (however that would be without having TK at the helm)
Adey's recruitment is untested for the main part - I think his only player was Higgins - the rest were Kelman, Sandrock or Elfring - obviously Adey had a say in the players who came but by and large he was given a team to coach rather than building a team to coach. Corey has proven that he can recruit well and coach - which is the "UK way" .
Opposite from Adey maybe applies to Doug - excellent recruiter which is why I think he should move into that kind of role in hockey rather than coaching.
We need a guy who can coach (and Adey was perfect for that) - we have some great links within the team and past players so I can't see recruitment ever being a problem for us
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 15, 2014 12:33:56 GMT
100% yes, imagine Belfast defence infront of kwall = domination. And by "domination" I assume you mean winning every major trophy? Like COREY did last year and like what adey was EXPECTED to do this year, but failed? Brilliant idea! Adey, blasted the league, Corey scraped over the line, didn't even win the conference. Adey was a couple of goals short in both finals. All in his first season with a team he didn't recruit. I'm sick of gung-ho hockey tbh, we should have competed in the league far more often than we have. If Corey struggles in the league next season he's got to go.
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Post by jd on Apr 15, 2014 12:41:04 GMT
And by "domination" I assume you mean winning every major trophy? Like COREY did last year and like what adey was EXPECTED to do this year, but failed? Brilliant idea! Adey, blasted the league, Corey scraped over the line, didn't even win the conference. Adey was a couple of goals short in both finals. All in his first season with a team he didn't recruit. I'm sick of gung-ho hockey tbh, we should have competed in the league far more often than we have. If Corey struggles in the league next season he's got to go. Who would you replace him with?
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 15, 2014 12:43:47 GMT
The best coach available.
Adey if necessary, don't think adey would put up with the bs tbh
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Post by Yotes on Apr 15, 2014 12:49:44 GMT
While I think DMan probably cranks it to eleven on the issue, the standard Neilson team is good in the short format competitions and comes up short in the league. 2012/13 was the exception to the rule.
Being good in the short formats isn't to be sniffed at though, and the fact that he put 1956 to bed will mean, barring a real calamity of a season, he'll get to choose when he leaves, but he does seem to struggle to get a team to go out and get it done over 50-odd games.
When he goes, whenever that is, there'll be a huge pool of potential coaches. Doesn't have to be someone already paddling around our particular backwater.
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Post by panthertom93 on Apr 15, 2014 13:56:20 GMT
And by "domination" I assume you mean winning every major trophy? Like COREY did last year and like what adey was EXPECTED to do this year, but failed? Brilliant idea! Adey, blasted the league, Corey scraped over the line, didn't even win the conference. Adey was a couple of goals short in both finals. All in his first season with a team he didn't recruit. I'm sick of gung-ho hockey tbh, we should have competed in the league far more often than we have. If Corey struggles in the league next season he's got to go. Peeking through the exaggerations, I see your point. However, it would have been interesting to see how Adey would have done in season 2. Would coaches have gotten used to his strategies? For me, this season has been a 1 off for a team dominating by such a margin. Whilst I'm sure Belfast fans enjoyed it, I can imagine it would et quite boring if every season the same team was 20 odd points clear at the top. That's what added to last ayes beautiful win. Corey has done what no other panthers coach has done in half a centuary and whether people think there's room for centiment or not in sport, he deserves the reward of a few seasons to continue his progress. Adey did it with a history of coaching. Neilson has started from the bottom to achieve what he has done.
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Post by BigLad on Apr 15, 2014 15:10:19 GMT
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Post by panthertom93 on Apr 15, 2014 15:37:48 GMT
Appears the Belfast Telegraph don't use twitter. Todd tweeted saying "I have 1 man only and I intend to get him - and it's not Doug"
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Post by GiantsFan00 on Apr 15, 2014 21:04:16 GMT
That was the article that prompted the tweet from Todd
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 16, 2014 17:41:38 GMT
Why have one man only? And if you have one and you said you have one, name him. Utter non sense, probably end up with a bust.
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Post by tootootrain on Apr 16, 2014 18:11:30 GMT
Why have one man only? And if you have one and you said you have one, name him. Utter non sense, probably end up with a bust. Its an easy PR win to make it appear you are in control and not floundering around looking for an Adey replacement. Keep your cards close to your chest whilst in reality actually floundering all over the shop in a panic and when someone is eventually signed proudly state "he was the one we were after from day one". Works equally well for players and other staff.
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Post by nate24 on Apr 16, 2014 22:41:22 GMT
I'm not the only one with my money on Paul Thompson.
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 17, 2014 16:59:44 GMT
I'm not the only one with my money on Paul Thompson. His bf has ruled it out
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Post by panthertom93 on Apr 22, 2014 15:28:35 GMT
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Post by 5+game on Apr 22, 2014 15:39:24 GMT
So the one man they want hasn't been involved in hockey for 4 years. Cant see this happening.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 22, 2014 16:16:35 GMT
The Elite League already has 1 estate agent too many...
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Post by GiantsFan00 on Apr 23, 2014 7:55:17 GMT
if it is Thornton then I imagine Sandrock will be Assistant coach again and I would say he's been well in the loop where the EIHL is concerned so he shouldn't be too rusty. Given TK expects us to only have 3/4 changes then they shouldn't need too much drilling into shape so would be a perfect scenario for Thornton to find his feet.
he played run and gun style of hockey which was excellent to watch - however - he did also bring us Rushton & McMorrow and bopped Payette on the head with his stick so there are moments of madness.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 23, 2014 16:44:13 GMT
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Post by pantherdman on Apr 23, 2014 17:54:51 GMT
Whoever it is won't be as good as adey so good result for us.
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Post by kaner88 on Apr 25, 2014 21:05:13 GMT
Whoever it is won't be as good as adey so good result for us. Famous last words and all that.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 28, 2014 18:54:03 GMT
Thornton it is, indefinite contract apparently.
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