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Post by PantherB on Dec 1, 2013 22:49:14 GMT
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Post by kezypanther on Dec 1, 2013 22:53:29 GMT
Hopefully they are looking into signing another dman. Think makela did well here so wish him the best in the future.
Sad that panthers can't even say anything before the post. :/
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Post by GuinnessMan on Dec 1, 2013 23:04:21 GMT
Very poor communications from the panthers org to the best hockey fans in the UK yet again.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using proboards
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Post by PantherB on Dec 1, 2013 23:13:32 GMT
Couldnt agree more with you both!
They need to change how they run the site and give information imo, we have the right to know about Players injuries and estimated recovery time on top of stuff like players leaving and other information. Anderson was a great player in my opinion and he never got the send off he deserved, i feel the same with Makela.. he was a good player for us and deserved some sort of send off from the fans.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 1, 2013 23:16:35 GMT
Nothing new though is it? Marc Levers? Sean McAslan's abortive comeback the other year?
Anyway, thought Makela was unlucky with his suspension, perhaps we didn't get to see his very best but he did a decent job for us when we needed it.
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Post by OwenB on Dec 2, 2013 6:50:04 GMT
Couldnt agree more with you both! They need to change how they run the site and give information imo, we have the right to know about Players injuries and estimated recovery time on top of stuff like players leaving and other information. Anderson was a great player in my opinion and he never got the send off he deserved, i feel the same with Makela.. he was a good player for us and deserved some sort of send off from the fans. I know it's easy to bash the organisation, but frankly there are some things that should stay private. Details on injuries is a frustrating one, but I can just about understand why they aren't released. And frankly there are times when it's difficult to know how a player will feel day-to-day, with recent injuries to Lacho, Henley, and Kowalski perfect examples of that. The Nick Anderson situation happened very quickly, hence no "send off". As I've tweeted this morning, Makela flew home from Asiago and now with his short-term deal over, either he or the club have decided not to extend it - he has a young family back home, so for me that's understandable, and makes it hard to give him a send off. Plus you know, it's kind of Mick Holland's job to find out news and report it - it doesn't always have to come from the gospel of the Panthers OS . . . Owen |
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Post by pantherman66 on Dec 2, 2013 7:32:50 GMT
Owen if you had Mick Holland's job, would you get the injury news printed in the 'Post' whenever you found out, even on a daily basis if necesary?
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Post by BlogFromBlock15! on Dec 2, 2013 9:45:47 GMT
Couldnt agree more with you both! They need to change how they run the site and give information imo, we have the right to know about Players injuries and estimated recovery time on top of stuff like players leaving and other information. Anderson was a great player in my opinion and he never got the send off he deserved, i feel the same with Makela.. he was a good player for us and deserved some sort of send off from the fans. I know it's easy to bash the organisation, but frankly there are some things that should stay private. Details on injuries is a frustrating one, but I can just about understand why they aren't released. And frankly there are times when it's difficult to know how a player will feel day-to-day, with recent injuries to Lacho, Henley, and Kowalski perfect examples of that. The Nick Anderson situation happened very quickly, hence no "send off". As I've tweeted this morning, Makela flew home from Asiago and now with his short-term deal over, either he or the club have decided not to extend it - he has a young family back home, so for me that's understandable, and makes it hard to give him a send off. Plus you know, it's kind of Mick Holland's job to find out news and report it - it doesn't always have to come from the gospel of the Panthers OS . . . Owen Owen, Where as you have a point, it's not even as if Makela is given any sort of mention. That's the problem we are having as fans. I do believe that the Panthers OS should be more of a gospel, it should lead by example, even if it did then it would give Mick Holland plenty to report on. |
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Post by OwenB on Dec 2, 2013 9:54:32 GMT
I know it's easy to bash the organisation, but frankly there are some things that should stay private. Details on injuries is a frustrating one, but I can just about understand why they aren't released. And frankly there are times when it's difficult to know how a player will feel day-to-day, with recent injuries to Lacho, Henley, and Kowalski perfect examples of that. The Nick Anderson situation happened very quickly, hence no "send off". As I've tweeted this morning, Makela flew home from Asiago and now with his short-term deal over, either he or the club have decided not to extend it - he has a young family back home, so for me that's understandable, and makes it hard to give him a send off. Plus you know, it's kind of Mick Holland's job to find out news and report it - it doesn't always have to come from the gospel of the Panthers OS . . . Owen Owen, Where as you have a point, it's not even as if Makela is given any sort of mention. That's the problem we are having as fans. I do believe that the Panthers OS should be more of a gospel, it should lead by example, even if it did then it would give Mick Holland plenty to report on. It may be that there will be some kind of confirmation on Makela later, who knows. To draw a comparison, Owen Coyle has been sacked by Wigan today. That news has been reported by journalists all morning, and only just now confirmed officially by Wigan. Like I say - there are some things that ANY club won't want public, for whatever reason. It's a reporters job to know as much as possible and report on the relevant info, rather than follow the line of the club through their website. To answer the other point - I'm not going to comment on how Mick should do his job, apart from to say I think he's excellent at it. From a personal point of view - I was aware of plenty of bumps and bruises last weekend in Asiago - you can't/don't/shouldn't report every single knock and strain; no one gains from it. |
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Post by BigLad on Dec 2, 2013 9:54:51 GMT
A simple article stating: "(Player Name) has now finished his short-term contract" or "(Player Name) has requested his release" or even "(Player Name) has left to join (EPL CLub)" would be sufficient.
The way they handled the Anderson thing was a joke, now not even bothering to say anything about Makela...even though in all the pre-match stuff they were banging on about him and Henley being available again.
I bet we'll sooon know how many tickets are left in the Steelers game on 28/12 though.
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Post by texpef on Dec 2, 2013 10:10:54 GMT
Yet another key position we have lost though and a good player to boot...
Although we won yesterday (...just) another defenceman may have made the victory that much easier and going forward as stated a 4 import Defence would be alot more solid especially on a young keeper like Conway giving us a better chance of winning games...
If Makela wanted to leave then the club had little choice, it would be nice to be kept informed as they obviously knew he wasnt coming back and were allowing reports even on friday that we were getting two players back (and incdentally nothing about Henley either) but imho replacing a key defenceman is vital..
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Post by GuinnessMan on Dec 2, 2013 10:18:47 GMT
I'm on same page as you Texpef.
With regard to yesterdays game, even though we picked it up in the 2nd period the defensive frailities still smacked you in the face.
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Post by BlogFromBlock15! on Dec 2, 2013 10:19:51 GMT
Owen, Where as you have a point, it's not even as if Makela is given any sort of mention. That's the problem we are having as fans. I do believe that the Panthers OS should be more of a gospel, it should lead by example, even if it did then it would give Mick Holland plenty to report on. It may be that there will be some kind of confirmation on Makela later, who knows. To draw a comparison, Owen Coyle has been sacked by Wigan today. That news has been reported by journalists all morning, and only just now confirmed officially by Wigan. Like I say - there are some things that ANY club won't want public, for whatever reason. It's a reporters job to know as much as possible and report on the relevant info, rather than follow the line of the club through their website. To answer the other point - I'm not going to comment on how Mick should do his job, apart from to say I think he's excellent at it. From a personal point of view - I was aware of plenty of bumps and bruises last weekend in Asiago - you can't/don't/shouldn't report every single knock and strain; no one gains from it. I just want to make clear I wasn't suggesting you were telling Mick how to do his job, nor was I implying that he doesn't it badly. I like reading Mick's work and he was part of the reason for me to try and make a career change as I would like his job one day!! I was just trying to say that he clearly has a relationship with the panthers organisation and as such there are plenty of news stories, comments and interviews that he could provide in addition to the basic stories the OS should be providing. |
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Post by Yotes on Dec 2, 2013 10:36:13 GMT
To draw a comparison, Owen Coyle has been sacked by Wigan today. That news has been reported by journalists all morning, and only just now confirmed officially by Wigan. It's a week, and 3 games, since Asiago? Nothing from the club, or from Mick, in that time? No one's expecting specific details of injuries that could be used against us, but a line in the match report to say Henley didn't play because of a recurrence of a lower body injury (nice and NHL vague) is all people are looking for. |
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Post by ted logan on Dec 2, 2013 12:02:25 GMT
A simple article stating: "(Player Name) has now finished his short-term contract" or "(Player Name) has requested his release" or even "(Player Name) has left to join (EPL CLub)" would be sufficient. The way they handled the Anderson thing was a joke, now not even bothering to say anything about Makela...even though in all the pre-match stuff they were banging on about him and Henley being available again. I get the feeling that the overinflated ego of our GM has a lot to do with this. Leave on his terms and you'll be fine, press release, article on the OS etc, etc. Leave on your terms and you'll be ushered out the back door with his boot up your ass |
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Post by spik on Dec 2, 2013 15:03:29 GMT
Simply a mention on the OS at the time that the news is going out publicly.Otherwise your not using your website....
Same as the programme this week claimed as one of the best thus far (out of only seven?), which is just another plug like all the 'available seats' reminders we get like Biglad has mentioned.
Promotion is needed yes, but seems to come before everything else.
So why are the progs limited now? Few sales now , reason for double/triple ups and some match nights being scrapped?
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Post by voiceofhumanity on Dec 2, 2013 16:51:21 GMT
Further ( unconfirmed ) rumour is that Wren has now also left.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 2, 2013 18:40:03 GMT
Further ( unconfirmed ) rumour is that Wren has now also left. As soon as his injury was diagnosed I would have guessed. |
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Post by BigLad on Dec 2, 2013 20:35:50 GMT
Remember when Anderson left and his name was removed from the roster page right away? Makela's is still there  www.panthers.co.uk/players |
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Post by panthertom93 on Dec 3, 2013 0:09:29 GMT
Remember when Anderson left and his name was removed from the roster page right away? Makela's is still there www.panthers.co.uk/playersThat's panthers for you, always like to keep the fans guessing  |
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Post by PantherB on Dec 3, 2013 10:56:48 GMT
Elite Prospects also has Tuukka Makela down that he has left Panthers. Says Confirmed but to Uknown.
Still no official word from Panthers themselves.
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Post by bobness on Dec 3, 2013 11:46:47 GMT
Confirmed with the source as the Mick Holland article.
So still not official, then?
Very strange media management from the Panthers.
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Post by panthertom93 on Dec 3, 2013 13:56:25 GMT
Very strange media management from the Panthers. They've probably seen how much interest Cardff's media is getting so trying to steal their thunder |
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Post by dp on Dec 4, 2013 12:00:46 GMT
Finally Panthers confirm what we'd suspected....
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Post by ted logan on Dec 4, 2013 12:05:09 GMT
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