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Post by kezypanther on Jan 27, 2013 0:06:36 GMT
Is there going to be any further bans from this game ? How steelers were enraged at Wilson I don't know from this match. To start it off limp wright cross checks a player at the end then 4 steelers fight one guy. Then DeCaro blockers a fan. Highlights here; fights at 23:00+
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Post by panthertom93 on Jan 27, 2013 0:15:57 GMT
The way they swarm round 1 stars player at the end is cowardly. Well fine Dundee for booing them off. Disgraceful. And DeCaro showing his true colours!!
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Post by messier1851 on Jan 27, 2013 0:48:19 GMT
Frank should be looking at a lengthy ban for that attack from behind, it wasn't quite Nieckar on Schulte bad but still 3-5 games surely. Unacceptable.
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 27, 2013 1:04:49 GMT
Assaulting a fan is a few game ban isn't it? What did Olsen get? De caro should get the same. Bout time they got tunnels to keep the fans and players apart. (Cameronof blaze should get the same, spraying water is assault too)
Typical steelers, instigating in last min of game, one match ban isn't it?
Couple of third men in plus continuing fighting when the Lino is in.
Stay classy Sheffield, and everyone hates panthers wow!
Great camera work and hd from Dundee capturing shuff in all their glory.
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Post by ripleypanthergirl on Jan 27, 2013 1:14:51 GMT
Their videos are nicer than ours.
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Post by Caesar on Jan 27, 2013 4:13:19 GMT
Spraying water is an assault? Get a grip, don't like it, sit further back
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Jan 27, 2013 9:38:05 GMT
Well apart from the Decaro incident while leaving the ice that was a nothing incident. Just a losing team showing a little fire against a soft team because they can. This is the Stars fault for not signing any toughness. It amazes me how teams do nothing to protect themselves and then whine about when they get taken advantage of.
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Post by Glynn M on Jan 27, 2013 10:16:39 GMT
The game has been reviewed already, Frank got the 1 game ban which he sat last night, as for Decaro well its another case of crap crowd control, the guy was showing signs of approaching and abusing our players and all Decaro did was give him a shove out of the way.
Now I'm sure if it was KWall you'd all be saying he was within his rights to give the cheeky chap a shove.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 10:19:34 GMT
Spraying water is an assault? Get a grip +1. Perhaps if Cameron had climbed into the crowd. That would have been unacceptable. And very very funny.
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Post by NP on Jan 27, 2013 10:27:22 GMT
Assaulting a fan is a few game ban isn't it? What did Olsen get? De caro should get the same. Bout time they got tunnels to keep the fans and players apart. (Cameronof blaze should get the same, spraying water is assault too) Typical steelers, instigating in last min of game, one match ban isn't it? Couple of third men in plus continuing fighting when the Lino is in. Stay classy Sheffield, and everyone hates panthers wow! Great camera work and hd from Dundee capturing shuff in all their glory. I don't think Olson (amazingly) got a ban at all for that., as he wasn't the instigator.... De Caro hitting a minor: should get a ban really, but will probly be swept under a carpet. In football, hazard is getting more than a 3 game ban for a slight kick on a "time wasting" minor. Yeah cowardingly sums up the steelers, I can't remember seeing a 4 on 1 hockey fight before.
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Jan 27, 2013 10:28:33 GMT
Their videos are nicer than ours. But they haven't got "super slow mo" like Sheffield to send to the disciplinary committee for a better look if it's reviewed. The Decaro incident is not clear as it's form a distance, you can't see if it's a punch or the blocker. The Legue penalty for a slash on the NM was a bit harsh. It was the right call, but when The NM slashed and jabbed him with the blocker first. When will they learn to keep players and fans apart, tunnels seem to be the answer.
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Post by Glynn M on Jan 27, 2013 10:42:19 GMT
When will they learn to keep players and fans apart, tunnels seem to be the answer. It seems they didn't learn from the Cardiff/Olsson thing but have now done the right thing. A Dundee fan on THF has seemingly agreed with my view that it was poor crowd control as they have confirmed that: "As of tonight the crowd barrier at the away end at DIA will be moved to the bottom of the stairwell which is a good 4 meters from where the players leave the ice. " About time!
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Post by panthertom93 on Jan 27, 2013 10:43:36 GMT
Spraying water is an assault? Get a grip, don't like it, sit further back Erm, technically in this countries law, it is an assault...
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Post by Glynn M on Jan 27, 2013 10:45:11 GMT
I don't think Olson (amazingly) got a ban at all for that., as he wasn't the instigator.... De Caro hitting a minor: should get a ban really, but will probly be swept under a carpet. In football, hazard is getting more than a 3 game ban for a slight kick on a "time wasting" minor. Where does it say/show him hitting a minor? Maybe he was just a small bloke with a bad attitude???
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Post by Shaggy on Jan 27, 2013 10:50:04 GMT
When will they learn to keep players and fans apart, tunnels seem to be the answer. It seems they didn't learn from the Cardiff/Olsson thing but have now done the right thing. A Dundee fan on THF has seemingly agreed with my view that it was poor crowd control as they have confirmed that: "As of tonight the crowd barrier at the away end at DIA will be moved to the bottom of the stairwell which is a good 4 meters from where the players leave the ice. " About time! Agreed that Dundee needed to move the barrier, and that them doing so now is a good thing... doesn't excuse DeCaro in any way whatsoever, nor should it deflect one bit of attention from the fact that there needs to be disciplinary action taken against him. Be it a full-on punch or 'just' a shove, DeCaro initiated a physical altercation with a fan. No amount of verbals excuses that (if that was a real excuse, then players would be able to get away with full-on assault at pretty much every rink in the country!). But there's still plenty of room under the EIHL carpet...
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Post by asbo26 on Jan 27, 2013 11:06:42 GMT
Legue got away lightly with his penalty, if you watch the video he kicks out with the blade of his skate towards the defender. He doesn't make contact but the intent is clearly there. If that was picked up on the ban could have seen the end of his season. If that had of happened against the Steelers EIHL H.Q. would be awash with super slow-mo video. We all like a bit of the rough stuff but that was just Thuggery.
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Post by Glynn M on Jan 27, 2013 11:07:49 GMT
It seems they didn't learn from the Cardiff/Olsson thing but have now done the right thing. A Dundee fan on THF has seemingly agreed with my view that it was poor crowd control as they have confirmed that: "As of tonight the crowd barrier at the away end at DIA will be moved to the bottom of the stairwell which is a good 4 meters from where the players leave the ice. " About time! Agreed that Dundee needed to move the barrier, and that them doing so now is a good thing... doesn't excuse DeCaro in any way whatsoever, nor should it deflect one bit of attention from the fact that there needs to be disciplinary action taken against him. Be it a full-on punch or 'just' a shove, DeCaro initiated a physical altercation with a fan. No amount of verbals excuses that (if that was a real excuse, then players would be able to get away with full-on assault at pretty much every rink in the country!). But there's still plenty of room under the EIHL carpet... I think that after already reviewing and confirming the Frank penalty that they would have said something then about the Decaro incident too, unless they now wait for people to become irate on forums before they review other stuff?? I disagree that "DeCaro initiated a physical altercation with a fan" as the fan was there in the 1st place and physically wanted to be a in position close enough to give verbals and was bobing back and forth towards our players (therefore a potential physical threat - as been proved by the DIA now moving the barrier). I also think that if it was KWall shoving a Cardiff, Coventry, Edinburgh, Dundee, Fife or Hull fan as he left their rink to go to the dressing room then you would probably just blame the lack of security and say that the fan probably was being a numpty.....
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Post by Glynn M on Jan 27, 2013 11:12:02 GMT
Legue got away lightly with his penalty, if you watch the video he kicks out with the blade of his skate towards the defender. He doesn't make contact but the intent is clearly there. If that was picked up on the ban could have seen the end of his season. If that had of happened against the Steelers EIHL H.Q. would be awash with super slow-mo video. We all like a bit of the rough stuff but that was just Thuggery. I can't say I saw a kick with his skate but I did see that Legue giving Riopel a tap to the pads which caused him to do his act of going down like he'd been shot. And even then he'd just sticked Legue twice whilw Legue was down on the ice.
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Post by asbo26 on Jan 27, 2013 11:14:35 GMT
No excuse. He is allegedly a professional sportsman he should be above all that. If your team can't take some verbals after that shocking display they should Jog Off.
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Post by marksteeler on Jan 27, 2013 11:15:26 GMT
So a Dundee player goes after limpright our team go to protect our player that's exactly what I want to see. Why didnt the Dundee players go to help there mate. After steelers standing by and watching the Wilson attack I'm glad to see against Olsen and against Dundee this team now sticking up for each other.
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Post by asbo26 on Jan 27, 2013 11:15:30 GMT
Watch the video again then it is clear as day.
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Post by panthertom93 on Jan 27, 2013 11:18:51 GMT
So a Dundee player goes after limpright our team go to protect our player that's exactly what I want to see. Why didnt the Dundee players go to help there mate. After steelers standing by and watching the Wilson attack I'm glad to see against Olsen and against Dundee this team now sticking up for each other. It's Limpright who starts it then once the games over, the Stars player has had enough but goes after him in the steelers zone. If there's a fight, let the two people involved sort it. Whole teams attacking 1 player is just cowardly.
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Post by Shaggy on Jan 27, 2013 11:19:07 GMT
I disagree that "DeCaro initiated a physical altercation with a fan" as the fan was there in the 1st place and physically wanted to be a in position close enough to give verbals and was bobing back and forth towards our players (therefore a potential physical threat - as been proved by the DIA now moving the barrier). Oh, please... a "potential physical threat"? Does that go for every single other Dundee fan standing there as well? Maybe DeCaro should have started swinging his stick like a scythe to take out all of these fans who were oh-so-obviously (sarcasm) threatening him? It's quite simple - the fan did not hit DeCaro, DeCaro hit the fan. DeCaro initiated a physical altercation. No amount of twisting things can change that... unless you have video evidence to prove otherwise? Then you think wrong. But then, this isn't the first time that you've claimed inside knowledge as to what I think, just to attempt to back up an unsustainable position you're holding.
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Post by Glynn M on Jan 27, 2013 11:25:13 GMT
I disagree that "DeCaro initiated a physical altercation with a fan" as the fan was there in the 1st place and physically wanted to be a in position close enough to give verbals and was bobing back and forth towards our players (therefore a potential physical threat - as been proved by the DIA now moving the barrier). Oh, please... a "potential physical threat"? Does that go for every single other Dundee fan standing there as well? Maybe DeCaro should have started swinging his stick like a scythe to take out all of these fans who were oh-so-obviously (sarcasm) threatening him? It's quite simple - the fan did not hit DeCaro, DeCaro hit the fan. DeCaro initiated a physical altercation. No amount of twisting things can change that... unless you have video evidence to prove otherwise? Then you think wrong. But then, this isn't the first time that you've claimed inside knowledge as to what I think, just to attempt to back up an unsustainable position you're holding. OK Dave, maybe you wouldn't but a large amount of Panthers fans would imo. The fan was bobbing forward towards players as they came off the ice after a feisty end to the game/post game. The FAN makes his way quickly from the stands to CONFRONT players, how is that Not initiating the whole thing?
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Post by Rob #12 on Jan 27, 2013 11:29:07 GMT
So a Dundee player goes after limpright our team go to protect our player that's exactly what I want to see. Why didnt the Dundee players go to help there mate. After steelers standing by and watching the Wilson attack I'm glad to see against Olsen and against Dundee this team now sticking up for each other. They didn't need to defend limpright. He can look after himself and it was one on one. He wasn't out numbered. Limpright did indeed start it. You have several players all jumping and punching him so you had second, third and forth man in. Just second man in in itself is a punishment. The rest of the steelers lined up to try and stop any incoming stars players trying to help their outnumbered colleague. Cowards.
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