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Post by PantherG on Mar 30, 2012 12:26:18 GMT
Am I correct in understanding that the EIHL restricts the owners of the league to ten imports, i.e players who have learned to to play hockey in the UK with a UK passport can play without restrictions?
Am I correct that someone with an EU passport that learned to play ice hockey in say France, Sweden or Finland would be classed as an import, despite holding an EU passport and having the legal right to live and work here?
If this is correct is it legal to place this restriction? I thought the aim of the EU was to promote working throughout the EU without restriction for all EU passport holders.
The reason I ask is that if places like the Ukraine etc come and snap up the British talent, where does that leave this league in terms of quality, if we are restricted to only ten imports?
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Post by Milkman™ on Mar 30, 2012 13:07:30 GMT
We could always ask Julian.
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Post by sambo79 on Mar 30, 2012 13:38:05 GMT
If we can have unlimited imports then where would that leave British players?
Let it go mate.
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Post by Carnell on Mar 30, 2012 13:51:03 GMT
Am I correct in understanding that the EIHL restricts the owners of the league to ten imports, i.e players who have learned to to play hockey in the UK with a UK passport can play without restrictions? Teams can sign as many "imports" as they like, but can only dress 10 imports per game. Am I correct that someone with an EU passport that learned to play ice hockey in say France, Sweden or Finland would be classed as an import, despite holding an EU passport and having the legal right to live and work here? If they are not British trained, then they would be classed as an import If this is correct is it legal to place this restriction? I thought the aim of the EU was to promote working throughout the EU without restriction for all EU passport holders. It isn't illegal, there is a plus to being a "EU Import" in this league, as they don't require a Visa or work permit to play in EIHL, which will save a lot of cash, which is why teams like Edinburgh are full of EU players. Work Permits can cost from £150.00 and VISA's can cost anything from £400.00 - £900.00 upwards IIRC, which can mean a saving of anything from £5,000-£10,000 if you are signing all EU players as opposed to N. American Players. The reason I ask is that if places like the Ukraine etc come and snap up the British talent, where does that leave this league in terms of quality, if we are restricted to only ten imports? If the European teams pick our best Brits, then the standard of British Quality would drop, which means coaches & GM's would have to start looking at EPL teams for their best players, there are some good players down there who could step up, sure they wouldn't be as good, but they would minimise the impact of losing such players.
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Post by Shaggy on Mar 30, 2012 16:28:59 GMT
Am I correct in understanding that the EIHL restricts the owners of the league to ten imports, i.e players who have learned to to play hockey in the UK with a UK passport can play without restrictions? Am I correct that someone with an EU passport that learned to play ice hockey in say France, Sweden or Finland would be classed as an import, despite holding an EU passport and having the legal right to live and work here? If this is correct is it legal to place this restriction? I thought the aim of the EU was to promote working throughout the EU without restriction for all EU passport holders. The restriction is that teams are limited to icing a maximum of 10 players whose ITCs (International Transfer Card - an IIHF document) are held by other countries' federations. So whilst effectively this restricts players with EU (or other non-British) passports, it is 'legal' because it doesn't technically depend upon the passport.
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Post by Olaw d'Elpus on Mar 31, 2012 5:02:48 GMT
IIRC, when David Clarke's season in Italy finished (07/08), his ITC card was held by the Italian federation, so wasn't allowed to ice for us in the Play-offs that season, even though he's British-born and trained.
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