Shaggy
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 22, 2011 6:44:00 GMT
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jayc
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Post by jayc on Aug 22, 2011 7:11:28 GMT
I think that if anyone on here is hoping for a speedy/ quick return, you may well all be very dissapointed
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Post by texpef on Aug 22, 2011 7:18:05 GMT
Which makes it even more strange (given that it must now be obvious to corey that defences win leagues) that we have only gone with 3 import defencemen especially as it was going to be known that one of our most influencial brits wont be around for an unknown amount of time.. time will tell whether corey's decision is proved to be the right one but in my mind this is madness especially as one of our biggest competitors (in belfast) have signed an extra import for cover in case of injuries.
Now i know this wouldnt make a difference in Danny's case but surely we could have dropped a forward and played 4 import D until Danny came back?...
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Post by texpef on Aug 22, 2011 8:39:10 GMT
That particular article suggests to me at least also that Neilson hasnt learnt a thing as regards defence either.. attack is the panthers defence? which idiot thought that is going to to be a good idea?...
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Post by lee on Aug 22, 2011 10:01:54 GMT
That particular article suggests to me at least also that Neilson hasnt learnt a thing as regards defence either.. attack is the panthers defence? which idiot thought that is going to to be a good idea?... not how it read to me, sure he said that, but he also said that the new guys are much more defensive minded... thats a lesson learnt. could be a mix of old and new?? some quotes can easily be taken out of context in the press. |
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Post by Shorty on Aug 22, 2011 10:32:31 GMT
 The article is all "ifs" and "buts", and we all know that if "ifs" and "buts" were beer and nuts, we'd have one hell of a party. I don't think he will be missing much from the start of the season. |
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 22, 2011 10:38:04 GMT
I do hope he is not missing for long. His absence was one of the reasons for our elongated slump last season.
We need Neilson, Lepine, Wilson and Lee to stay out of the box now....
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Post by Pies on Aug 22, 2011 11:24:38 GMT
Well Danny said on Panthers radio that he wouldn't play untill he is 100% fit. I think thats a good thing - I honestly think we'll need Danny to be for for the xmas period rather than the start of the season
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Shaggy
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 22, 2011 12:33:52 GMT
Re the 'not enough import D-men' suggestion... I don't think it's as simple as that.
Last season, our problem was not the number of D-men we had (import or British) but the lack of emphasis on defensive play - by the blueliners in particular, but also by the whole team in general. Call it the effects of "Sexy Neilson Hockey" run riot, if you will.
Now if Corey means what he says in this article, about a more defensive approach from the entire team, then I think that's a lot more important than just having an extra import D-man (after all - what more use is just another import D-man who won't play defence?).
Rick Strachan staying on the coaching team is hopefully a good sign, with his known preference for defensive play... as the back end of last season showed. And let's face it - all of the other teams have one less import compared to last season as well... so they're all in the same boat as we are.
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Post by jayc on Aug 22, 2011 12:50:58 GMT
Pies - You're about bang on for his return date.
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 22, 2011 12:54:09 GMT
Look at me.
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Post by thfnick on Aug 22, 2011 14:36:45 GMT
I think that if anyone on here is hoping for a speedy/ quick return, you may well all be very dissapointed Heard a murmer that the injury could still turn out to be career ending. A huge shame if true. |
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Post by dodit on Aug 22, 2011 15:04:49 GMT
I think that if anyone on here is hoping for a speedy/ quick return, you may well all be very dissapointed Heard a murmer that the injury could still turn out to be career ending. A huge shame if true. Well I heard when he went for his op, he couldn't make it any worse than it already was, so if he was able to play, I'm sure that will just stay as a rumour. |
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Post by Rob Scott on Aug 22, 2011 15:09:59 GMT
Heard a murmer that the injury could still turn out to be career ending. A huge shame if true. Well I heard when he went for his op, he couldn't make it any worse than it already was, so if he was able to play, I'm sure that will just stay as a rumour. Good point. He was great at the finals weekend. |
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Post by Shorty on Aug 22, 2011 17:18:08 GMT
He wont be missing for as long as people are suggesting on here.
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lee
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Post by lee on Aug 22, 2011 17:43:14 GMT
lets just wait and see shall we, he'll be back when he's back
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Post by pantherdman on Aug 22, 2011 18:06:13 GMT
Another reason we should have signed another Brit D man.
P. poor planning TBH, season could be over in the first month. this best be smoke and mirrors to put the oppo off.
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Post by muppitz on Aug 23, 2011 14:28:21 GMT
I read somewhere that Levers is going to be seeing some time in defence to cover Danny so it looks like he's going to be Mr Flexible this season.
The season hasn't even started yet and some are writing it off!
Madness!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2011 14:51:24 GMT
Another reason we should have signed another Brit D man. P. poor planning TBH, season could be over in the first month. most ridiculous thing ive read in ages !!  |
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Post by lee on Aug 23, 2011 14:51:45 GMT
I read somewhere that Levers is going to be seeing some time in defence to cover Danny so it looks like he's going to be Mr Flexible this season. The season hasn't even started yet and some are writing it off! Madness! thats from the NEP Corey interview. i don't think it will be that big a move for Levers, he has to be versatile now Lachowich has earned himself a place on a line permanently. |
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Post by panthers4ever on Aug 23, 2011 17:19:32 GMT
Agree lets just wait and see
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Post by 5+game on Aug 23, 2011 18:02:07 GMT
Another reason we should have signed another Brit D man. P. poor planning TBH, season could be over in the first month. this best be smoke and mirrors to put the oppo off. get real, one man doesnt make a team and a league challenge has never been lost in the first month. Oh and out of interest what Brit dman would you have signed as injury cover for a month? |
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Post by pantherdman on Aug 23, 2011 18:24:06 GMT
To Pidge, please elaborate on your reply.
Peacock: Sorry, with the way the league is set up and the import rule we're running into the season with a potentially crocked top brit Dman??? look what happened when he was out last season?? it went completely to pot, wrecked the season.
Who would I have signed? Phillips, Richardson, frig! any British Dman, throw money at them. Look back at the posts, as soon as the league cut the number of imports, I said we need to sign another top end Brit, we failed to do that and now we could potentially be short.
The richest club makes do while other 'lesser' teams think ahead and sign up cover.
What happens when Lee gets crocked first weekend? Move Lacho to D??
Why haven't we won the league yet??
I'll be behind the team 100%, but we need to give ourselves the best chance possible. I hope to god we are set to plunder another team for a Brit Dman just incase.
Fail to prepare = prepare to fail.
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 23, 2011 20:51:16 GMT
You make it sound all so simple, pantherdman... when in reality it's far from that.
Believe it or not, players - especially the Brits - do not generally just up sticks and move somewhere else just because somebody waves an extra bundle of tenners under their nose. There are an awful lot of factors involved, and money is only one of them.
Plus the supply of top end British players is rather limited... oh dear, maybe someone should have thought of, oh I dunno, perhaps concentrating on aiding the development of young British players a bit more, so maybe there'd be more of them by now? Now why did nobody think of doing that, I wonder? Oh yes, because too many people 'running' the sport can barely see past the end of the week much less years in advance, and too many of the fans don't give a toss about anything but the next here-today-gone-tomorrow import.
And we may well be the richest club in the country (or not - who actually knows?)... but the main reason we are that, and not in the same kind of mess that Sheffield, for example, are always in - is the financial prudence of Neil Black. Who was widely loathed and criticised in the ISL days for not matching other teams' spending... but who was proven right as they crashed & burned and we didn't.
The lesson of history... throwing out stupid amounts of money in this sport is A Bad Idea (TM).
As for our British contingent... by the looks of things, we still have, overall, the best group of British players in the league. We're still ahead of the pack. We've not lost out at all. And what exactly is this "cover" that apparently everyone else has signed and we haven't? Seems to be rather well hidden... if it even exists at all.
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Post by 5+game on Aug 23, 2011 21:30:25 GMT
look what happened when he was out last season?? it went completely to pot, wrecked the season. Did this not co-incide with Kwalls injury and also having to play short a few games because of penners ban from the bench clearence? hardly fell apart just because of Meyers injury did it. Who would I have signed? Phillips, Richardson, frig! any British Dman, throw money at them. Look back at the posts, as soon as the league cut the number of imports, I said we need to sign another top end Brit, we failed to do that and now we could potentially be short. And all these players you talk about would be happy to ditch their current team to come and play for us then. Dannys injury wasnt known to be as bad as it was until he went under the knife, by this time most of the brits had already signed with clubs. |
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