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Post by Optic on Sept 11, 2010 21:27:28 GMT
Thought?
Bloody awful display by Carson in the 2nd period, not helped by a lazy Panthers performance in the 2nd
The 3rd was a different story, Carson soon changed his attitude after masses of Boos and the Panthers woke up with 3 quick goals
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Post by Higgy on Sept 11, 2010 21:28:05 GMT
Well we got here eventually but we did it the hard way! At 3-1 down i never felt we would lose as we have so much offensive firepower it just needed one goal and like usual Lyle will let in 2 or 3 quickly.
Clarke's gwg was a bullet i doubt Lyle ever saw it as it was hit with so much power it was unreal.
Carson did call a lot of penalties against us tonight but a lot of them were our own fault due to ill discipline right in front of him.
Meyers looked in a bad way after his run in with the boards anyone got any news?
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Post by Kirk55 on Sept 11, 2010 21:33:10 GMT
Just got back from game thought we played really well all game gave up 2 very sloppy goals in 2nd goalie will probably want those back very pleased for clarkey getting his hat trick any one else think MATTHEW myers wasn't at his best tonight usually see him winning face offs and battles on the boards was largly anonymous IMO.
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Post by Kirk55 on Sept 11, 2010 21:35:00 GMT
Just got back from game thought we played really well all game gave up 2 very sloppy goals in 2nd goalie will probably want those back very pleased for clarkey getting his hat trick any one else think MATTHEW myers wasn't at his best tonight usually see him winning face offs and battles on the boards was largly anonymous IMO.
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Post by KimThePanther on Sept 11, 2010 21:53:44 GMT
I know I might be in a minority but Carson didn't have as bad a game as some of our fans clearly felt tonight. There weren't too many penalties I disagreed with to be brutaly honest. The "too many men" call that a lot of our supporters went mental over looked like one of our players purposely playing the puck towards the bench during a line change. My understanding is that that isn't a too many men penalty?
Even at 3-1 down I thought we'd win in the end. That only happened because we came out a couple of minutes later than the Devils for the second period and were all over the place. By the end of the second period I thought they were tiring and they didn't look the same team in the third period, although we still gave them a chance!
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Post by Lucy on Sept 11, 2010 21:55:54 GMT
Meyers looked in a bad way after his run in with the boards anyone got any news? Danny came back on the ice so I assume he's not seriously injured! |
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Post by Higgy on Sept 11, 2010 21:57:36 GMT
Meyers looked in a bad way after his run in with the boards anyone got any news? Danny came back on the ice so I assume he's not seriously injured! Oh did he i missed that lol |
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Post by jambros1 on Sept 11, 2010 21:58:23 GMT
"Just sat down in my seat for my first home game this season, can't wait for face off.
I'll take panthers to win by 2 but an edgy game that's a bit of a nail biter until panthers close on an ENG!
Hope Penner gets hold of someone tonight!"
Transpires this prediction (from the other thread) was pretty accurate especially when you consider Jade missed an ENG by inches at the end of the game!
Reasonable panthers performance, thought Sproat was a bit stupid for taking that boarding penalty at the end (especially in the offensive zone) but I also thought the 5+game was a bit OTT
Good to sea a panthers team with a bit more fight! Some teams of the past would have lost this game having gone 2 down!
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Post by Dan on Sept 11, 2010 22:06:43 GMT
Boarding from behind is an automatic 5 + Game mate, it was a dreadful check and deserved what it got.
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Post by Outlaw on Sept 11, 2010 22:06:48 GMT
PENNER v SAWYER
(Sorry its a little grainy as only had camera phone tonight)
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Sept 11, 2010 22:12:24 GMT
I'm in two minds about tonight. Pleased with the result and the manner of how we managed it but being caught flat footed in the 2nd made for some tough viewing.
Some huge hits tonight which was good to see, Zion's hip check in the first was a beauty, Penner being leveled was also interesting to see & Lee throwing Birbraer around was also a pleasure.
All of which was out shone by an absolute rocket from Clarke.
An okay game but plenty of mistake/ill discipline to be ironed out over the season.
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Sept 11, 2010 22:15:08 GMT
PENNER v SAWYER (Sorry its a little grainy as only had camera phone tonight) Another draw to Penner's collection in my books. |
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Post by howeaboutthat on Sept 11, 2010 22:16:25 GMT
Boarding from behind is an automatic 5 + Game mate, it was a dreadful check and deserved what it got. It was never boarding, Carson called based on the result of the check rather than any offence committed. I'll agree though, Panthers were pretty poor with their discpline tonight, but Carson did make a few bad calls then compounded those mistakes by trying to 'even up' in the third with a few incredibly soft calls against the Devils. I wonder if he'll sign up to 'The Cage' now to defend his performance? |
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Post by jambros1 on Sept 11, 2010 22:19:00 GMT
Boarding from behind is an automatic 5 + Game mate, it was a dreadful check and deserved what it got. Fair enough it was definately a boarding form behind I wasn't aware it was an auto 5+game, perhaps now that the rule book has been found we might get to see it? |
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Post by Optic on Sept 11, 2010 22:19:26 GMT
I dont think the cage will be as friendly as steelbleat was  Forgot about Lee ragging Birbraer about, awesome to see  And Clarkes GWG was a rocket which i dont think was possible to save also about the boarding call looked like Richardson either fell or tried ducking the check as Dustin was committed to the check but it certainly wasnt intentional |
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Sept 11, 2010 22:21:29 GMT
Boarding from behind is an automatic 5 + Game mate, it was a dreadful check and deserved what it got. Watched from Block 10 and would have to disagree with the severity of the call, Cardiff's player tripped as our player, Sproat?, made contact. A case of overkill by Carson IMO. |
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Post by charlielou on Sept 11, 2010 22:27:14 GMT
First period was great
second period was shocking
third period, i didnt know what i wanted more......panthers to win or carson to choke on his frigging whistle.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 11, 2010 22:27:23 GMT
I know I might be in a minority but Carson didn't have as bad a game as some of our fans clearly felt tonight. There weren't too many penalties I disagreed with to be brutaly honest. Totally agree, if anything the calls I disagreed with most were in our favour during the evening up he did in the 3rd. Personally I think if Cardiff didn't have Lyle in goal we wouldn't have gotten away with it today. Defensively we were all over the shop. |
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Post by spik on Sept 11, 2010 22:32:09 GMT
1) A win RESULT - that we need at the end of the game. 2) Positive performance apart from losing our way a bit in the second. 3) Just need to continue this over Dundee.Take no prisoners.The Scots have dropped 13 goals to zip thus far with Sheffield.let's show the Steelers we are still there with them. Well done.  |
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Post by thebestpanthers on Sept 11, 2010 22:37:15 GMT
Lee 1 - Birbrear 0 - best part of the game
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Post by marshalfish on Sept 11, 2010 22:37:52 GMT
Boarding from behind is an automatic 5 + Game mate, it was a dreadful check and deserved what it got. Watched from Block 10 and would have to disagree with the severity of the call, Cardiff's player tripped as our player, Sproat?, made contact. A case of overkill by Carson IMO. Perhaps it is the view from block 10, but that was exactly as I saw it. I thought that was his worst call of the night. |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Sept 11, 2010 22:44:42 GMT
Carson spolied the game for both sets of fans, and frankly the game was never allowed to flow. One Devils fan on THF has already started belly aching about Panthers fans mind you he is writing to an audience on there that will lap up anything anti Panthers. Will be interesting to see what those Devils fans on THF who critised our defence pre-season will have to say about their defence, because Kenton Smith must wonder what he has let himself in for  So 3 wins against 3 of the 'top five' (not my comment) teams in the leagues. Us little old Panthers aint doing too bad really. ;D HL |
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Sept 11, 2010 22:51:55 GMT
Watched from Block 10 and would have to disagree with the severity of the call, Cardiff's player tripped as our player, Sproat?, made contact. A case of overkill by Carson IMO. Perhaps it is the view from block 10, but that was exactly as I saw it. I thought that was his worst call of the night. Couldn't agree more. If the guy had stayed on his feet, ie not tripping over his own feet, it may have resulted in a legit hit against the boards. C'est la vie! My faith in this league officials is upheld. |
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Post by Dan on Sept 11, 2010 22:53:04 GMT
Watched from Block 10 and would have to disagree with the severity of the call, Cardiff's player tripped as our player, Sproat?, made contact. A case of overkill by Carson IMO. Perhaps it is the view from block 10, but that was exactly as I saw it. I thought that was his worst call of the night. He went hard at a man skating into the boards and went over the top and followed through, checking his upper body while it was clear he was already leaning forward. Little malice, but plenty of stupidity. |
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Post by jambros1 on Sept 11, 2010 23:16:42 GMT
In the absence of an EIHL rulebook here's how the NHL see's it:
Rule 41 - Boarding
41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks an opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to be thrown violently in the boards. The severity of the penalty, based upon the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.
There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player (or goalkeeper) applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a vulnerable position and if so, he must avoid the contact. However, there is also a responsibility on the player with the puck to avoid placing himself in a dangerous and vulnerable position. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.
Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player being knocked into the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”
41.2 Minor Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a minor penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player or goalkeeper guilty of boarding an opponent.
41.3 Major Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player or goalkeeper guilty of boarding an opponent (see 41.5).
41.4 Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player or goalkeeper attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by boarding.
41.5 Game Misconduct Penalty - When a major penalty is imposed under this rule for a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head of an opponent, a game misconduct shall be imposed.
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