Penalty shots

[PeteW]

Am I reading this right
I've just been looking at the stats from last nights' game. The penalty shot count reads:-
Panthers 13 Goal, 28 Goal, 8 Missed, 13 Saved, 28 Saved
Steelers 11 Goal, 24 Missed, 26 Goal, 11 Saved, 24 Goal.
Two players took 2 each??
Hardly seems fair. I'd have thought that all your penalty shots would have to be taken by different players, including any after the initial 5 each. If you've got 2 natural finishers you are going to win the majority of these encounters if they can take two each of the initial 5.
I can see Panthers losing most of these as I don't see anyone, other than perhaps McAslan who has the "hands" to be effective close in.

[DoUrden]

petew said:

Am I reading this right
I've just been looking at the stats from last nights' game. The penalty shot count reads:-
Panthers 13 Goal, 28 Goal, 8 Missed, 13 Saved, 28 Saved
Steelers 11 Goal, 24 Missed, 26 Goal, 11 Saved, 24 Goal.
Two players took 2 each??
Hardly seems fair. I'd have thought that all your penalty shots would have to be taken by different players, including any after the initial 5 each. If you've got 2 natural finishers you are going to win the majority of these encounters if they can take two each of the initial 5.
I can see Panthers losing most of these as I don't see anyone, other than perhaps McAslan who has the "hands" to be effective close in.

I was of the understanding that it's best of 3. So you select 3 and those same 3 keep going round after the original 3 until someone scores and the other doesn't?

[Chickun]

I think there is just 3 initial penalty shots, if the scores are tied after this, the same players take sudden death penalty shots. That's how I interpreted it

[paek]

Penalty shots are no way to settle regular season games, and no it isn't because of Panthers' loss last night. I see little point in having a 5 minute OT period and then penalty shots.

Either have one or the other.

[Lucy]

chickun said:

I think there is just 3 initial penalty shots, if the scores are tied after this, the same players take sudden death penalty shots. That's how I interpreted it

Yes I thought that too, but was told last night that after the first three then anyone can take a shot

Anyone got the official ruling?

[PeteW]

dourden said:

petew said:

Am I reading this right
I've just been looking at the stats from last nights' game. The penalty shot count reads:-
Panthers 13 Goal, 28 Goal, 8 Missed, 13 Saved, 28 Saved
Steelers 11 Goal, 24 Missed, 26 Goal, 11 Saved, 24 Goal.
Two players took 2 each??
Hardly seems fair. I'd have thought that all your penalty shots would have to be taken by different players, including any after the initial 5 each. If you've got 2 natural finishers you are going to win the majority of these encounters if they can take two each of the initial 5.
I can see Panthers losing most of these as I don't see anyone, other than perhaps McAslan who has the "hands" to be effective close in.

I was of the understanding that it's best of 3. So you select 3 and those same 3 keep going round after the original 3 until someone scores and the other doesn't?

And someone picked Matt Myers to be one of our 3 penalty shot takers Jesus, no wonder we never win owt

[PeteW]

paek said:

Penalty shots are no way to settle regular season games, and no it isn't because of Panthers' loss last night. I see little point in having a 5 minute OT period and then penalty shots.
Either have one or the other.

Personally I'd do away with both. What's wrong with a draw?
What you have in effect is a 60 minute game from which you will get a point in the event of a tie. Followed by a 5 minute game with a further point at stake and failing an outcome there, a 3 player shoot out with that point at stake. Never liked OT. At 9.30 I want to be on my way, not still hanging around going on 10 hoping for a positive finish.

[paek]

petew said:

paek said:

Penalty shots are no way to settle regular season games, and no it isn't because of Panthers' loss last night. I see little point in having a 5 minute OT period and then penalty shots.
Either have one or the other.

Personally I'd do away with both. What's wrong with a draw?

My sentiments exactly Pete. The NHL brought the notion in after the lock out, to try and get the fans interested once more & get new fans in. I don't blame them for that, but one has to remember that they're catering for the bigger American market, and Yanks "don't do tied games."

petew said:

What you have in effect is a 60 minute game from which you will get a point in the event of a tie. Followed by a 5 minute game with a further point at stake and failing an outcome there, a 3 player shoot out with that point at stake. Never liked OT. At 9.30 I want to be on my way, not still hanging around going on 10 hoping for a positive finish.

I don't mind OT but that and penalty shots combined...? One or the other please.

[Nemesis]

You have to select 3 shooters, these players keep going until the outcome is decided.

[PeteW]

nemesis1 said:

You have to select 3 shooters, these players keep going until the outcome is decided.

If they'd keep the same bloody rules each season, it would be worth signing 3 guys who have a history of penalty shot taking.

[paek]

petew said:

nemesis1 said:

You have to select 3 shooters, these players keep going until the outcome is decided.

If they'd keep the same bloody rules each season, it would be worth signing 3 guys who have a history of penalty shot taking.

Just sign 3 Tomas Kaberle's and we'd be fine

[spik]

Agree totally......A draw is a draw.
If you can't do it in 60. Finish.
Why a need for a win result. Draws will add to the trill of trying to win it in regular anyway.
Reason for an interest in a 3,2,1,0 points system if you want OT.

[Chickun]

I think that the OT period and the point system (Extra point for an OT win) was pretty good last season. Although, i did feel a bit let down after an overtime period if the score was still tied. As posted above somewhere, penalty shots makes it a lot more interesting and exciting but i prefer one or the other too.

[NickThePanther44]

cctv should be checked and either a serious rollicking or get rid of them, were not football supporters

[andyd]

Penalty Shots are ridiculous, absolutely stupid for a regular season game, nothing wrong with an old fashioned draw.

The most ridiculous thing about the points awarded is the fact that 3 are given out in an OT game. As far as I'm concernced a hockey game has 2 points on offer, you can't then magic a third one out of thin air to award in OT. In football there are 3 on offer and if it's a draw the two teams basically forfeit one of the points that could have been awarded which is fine but to create another one as hockey does is nonsense.

[chris22]

But how good was the atmosphere during those penalty shots? We're in the entertainment industry and I for one was entertained.

When the change was announced last night people cried they'd happen everyweek. Well Saturday was the first for the Steelers in something like 15 games.

Chris

[panthermick]

If a team knows they have 3 of the best penalty shot takers in the league is that team gonna play for a draw then go for the extra point from the shootout. I would especialy if i had someone like pc Drouin who hardly ever missed a 1 0n 1 never mind a penalty shot.

What is a player like him worth to an elite league team these days.

[chris22]

panthermick said:

If a team knows they have 3 of the best penalty shot takers in the league is that team gonna play for a draw then go for the extra point from the shootout. I would especialy if i had someone like pc Drouin who hardly ever missed a 1 0n 1 never mind a penalty shot.

What is a player like him worth to an elite league team these days.

Can't agree with that. Every overtime period I've seen has been 5 minutes of pure end-to-end hockey with both teams going all out to score. Most games are settled by regulation or overtime, the number of penalty shootouts is relatively small.

Chris

[KimThePanther]

chris22 said:

But how good was the atmosphere during those penalty shots? We're in the entertainment industry and I for one was entertained.

When the change was announced last night people cried they'd happen everyweek. Well Saturday was the first for the Steelers in something like 15 games.

Chris

I agree - I enjoy the excitment of overtime and penalty shots. What I don't agree with is that you get the same amount of points for winning in regulation as you do for winning on penalty shots. That's not right in our league. It works in the NHL because you win the Championship in the playoffs and not in the regular season like you do here. We should be using the system used during Sheffield's Grand Sham season and have three points for a regulation time win, two for an overtime or penalty shots win and one for an overtime or penalty shots defeat.

[chris22]

I thought the points system that season was a little too messy. Trying to explain it was a nightmare!

[Rich]

IMO it works well, one thing id change is the 3 shooters rule and say everyone on the bench has to take one before the first guy can go again.

Its simple really, if the game finishes a draw then you go into OT for the bonus point. Doesnt take too much explaining...