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Post by ashleyglitterbest on Jan 16, 2009 15:09:13 GMT
Jon Ingram wearing no 3 , opposition Altrincham Aces?
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Post by Fez on Jan 16, 2009 16:19:58 GMT
He looks short enough to be Ivor!
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Post by Dan on Jan 16, 2009 16:24:38 GMT
Come on Stef, give some of us younger ones a go Mid 90's at the earliest! Bloody good idea to see though, does anyone have any pictures of the old barn? Could do with a trip down memory lane.
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Post by brads on Jan 16, 2009 17:08:43 GMT
My guess after chatting to Mike Urquhart today would be:-
Chris Keyward in nets 3 - Jeff Andison Red Shorts: Terry Gudziunas 11 - Dwayne Keyward 12 - Andy Linton
We thought the Altringham Aces or Crowtree was a possibility and we even contemplated Don Mills Comets??
Great thread Stef.
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Post by Stinchcombe on Jan 16, 2009 17:21:08 GMT
most names seem to have been mentioned here and there already, but from left to right
chris keyward jeff andison paul smith (durham) terry gudzuinas tim peacock dwayne keyward ivor bennett (durham)
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Post by spik on Jan 16, 2009 19:42:41 GMT
most names seem to have been mentioned here and there already, but from left to right chris keyward jeff andison paul smith (durham) terry gudzuinas tim peacock dwayne keyward ivor bennett (durham) Get your money in at the bookies quick rob before stef gets back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 22:34:06 GMT
most names seem to have been mentioned here and there already, but from left to right chris keyward jeff andison paul smith (durham) terry gudzuinas tim peacock dwayne keyward ivor bennett (durham) Spot on that man. The date, unbelievably - 3 October 1981. Another interesting aspect of the photo is how many different coloured helmets, shorts and socks are being worn by the five Panthers players. That's what it was like in those days.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 23:28:03 GMT
As the weekend is almost upon us and our thoughts turns to matches, rather than a quiz, just a couple of pictures that I hope will jog memories that folks might want to share. First up, one of the greatest double acts in the Panthers' modern era: I give you, on the right, the great Jamie Crapper and on the left, the God that is Jimmy Keyes. And just look at that strip. Smart or what. Here's what in my humble opinion is one of, if not the best hockey photo Pete Gingell took. Take a good look at it. In particular look at Craps's eyes. They are the eyes of a predator with only one thing in mind - scoring a goal. I once read that Maurice Richard of the Montreal Canadiens had eyes that burned holes in opposition goalies, scaring them half to death as he bore down on them, and I reckon Jamie's were the same. That blur bottom left is the puck he has just launched towards the top corner: you can see the bend in his stick, such was the power of his shooting. But look also at the Murrayfield no. 10, Duncan McIntyre. He's given up the chase but is still moving at sufficient speed to leave the laces on his gloves trailing in the wind. Note also Jock Hay (no.12), still on the Edinburgh staff today (manager, I think) and to be seen on the bench whenever we play them. As for Jimmy: Here's a typical Keyes moment as he takes on the entire opposition defence single handed, causing complete pandemonium, with Craps in the background sniffing round for the loose puck that often resulted. These two played together in Alex Dampier's first season here. One of Alex's prime aims that season was to rid us of the 'pussycats' tag, the perception that we were a soft touch. Jimmy Keyes was a big reason that happened, as he clattered and fought his way fearlessly around the league and took his place in Panthers folklore for ever more. I can literally feel my chest swell as I think of the memories these pictures and these guys bring back.
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Post by Rich on Jan 17, 2009 9:26:15 GMT
Great stuff Stef.
Does Crapper (sorry, "Craiper") still officiate anywhere?
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Post by Fez on Jan 17, 2009 10:36:08 GMT
For those who are newer fans, if you thing Wallenberg knows how to wraparound, Jimmy would still have a lot to teach him!
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Post by ted on Jan 17, 2009 10:42:11 GMT
I know a lot of the old rinks had no plexi or netting and I have watched a few of the old old Durham videos and would I be right in saying the puck wasnt lifted much except when shooting on goal compared to the modern era?
Was the game noticeably slower? or was it just before the blame culture came in?
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Post by spik on Jan 17, 2009 12:01:56 GMT
I remember these pics from IINR mag front covers and home programme etc...So the memory banks are still alive......Indeed I have alot of pics that could be of interest aprt from two things. I am not so hot on getting them on here at any time and would this 'transmission' copyright thing rear it's ugly head again?
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Post by texpef on Jan 17, 2009 13:28:16 GMT
IHNR doesnt exist anymore so i cant see how copyright is infringed Spik?...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 12:05:19 GMT
For those who are newer fans, if you thing Wallenberg knows how to wraparound, Jimmy would still have a lot to teach him! E.g.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 12:06:46 GMT
Does Crapper (sorry, "Craiper") still officiate anywhere? Don't know. I've not seen or heard anything about Jamie for ages, which is a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 12:14:01 GMT
I know a lot of the old rinks had no plexi or netting and I have watched a few of the old old Durham videos and would I be right in saying the puck wasnt lifted much except when shooting on goal compared to the modern era? Was the game noticeably slower? or was it just before the blame culture came in? In the days when there was no glass or netting down the sides I suppose players allowed for that where possible, but if you are looking at getting the puck away as quickly as possible you just whack it, and it did go into the crowd on occasions and hit people. Of course, in our memories of those days the hockey was just like today but I have a tape with games from the mid-1980s which I daren't play now in case it turns into dust, but the last time I watched it I was amazed how slow the games were. But in many cases teams played their imports for 50 minutes a game or more, so I suppose they had to pace themselves, and I saw on more than one occasion players stay out for the entire game. You can't imagine that these days.
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Post by ottawa on Jan 18, 2009 12:22:59 GMT
I know a lot of the old rinks had no plexi or netting and I have watched a few of the old old Durham videos and would I be right in saying the puck wasnt lifted much except when shooting on goal compared to the modern era? Was the game noticeably slower? or was it just before the blame culture came in? In the days when there was no glass or netting down the sides I suppose players allowed for that where possible, but if you are looking at getting the puck away as quickly as possible you just whack it, and it did go into the crowd on occasions and hit people. Of course, in our memories of those days the hockey was just like today but I have a tape with games from the mid-1980s which I daren't play now in case it turns into dust, but the last time I watched it I was amazed how slow the games were. But in many cases teams played their imports for 50 minutes a game or more, so I suppose they had to pace themselves, [glow=red,2,300]and I saw on more than one occasion players stay out for the entire game[/glow]. You can't imagine that these days. Bloody Hell! Loving this thread by the way. As someone who didn't start following Panthers untill the NIC opened, this is great stuff to see & read. Thank you.
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Post by Rich on Jan 18, 2009 13:07:04 GMT
I know a lot of the old rinks had no plexi or netting and I have watched a few of the old old Durham videos and would I be right in saying the puck wasnt lifted much except when shooting on goal compared to the modern era? Was the game noticeably slower? or was it just before the blame culture came in? In the days when there was no glass or netting down the sides I suppose players allowed for that where possible, but if you are looking at getting the puck away as quickly as possible you just whack it, and it did go into the crowd on occasions and hit people. Of course, in our memories of those days the hockey was just like today but I have a tape with games from the mid-1980s which I daren't play now in case it turns into dust, but the last time I watched it I was amazed how slow the games were. But in many cases teams played their imports for 50 minutes a game or more, so I suppose they had to pace themselves, and I saw on more than one occasion players stay out for the entire game. You can't imagine that these days. Great stuff The nearest Iv seen to that is Jan Krajicek when playing for Newcastle. I think we counted 51 mins he was on the ice (well, counted 9mins he was sat on the bench).
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Post by Shaggy on Jan 18, 2009 13:07:28 GMT
Loving this thread by the way. As someone who didn't start following Panthers untill the NIC opened, this is great stuff to see & read. Thank you. Seconded, most emphatically! Like Tony, I didn't see any of this stuff (I had one full year in the old rink, that last season, and that was it) so... please, keep it coming!
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Post by Fez on Jan 18, 2009 15:55:07 GMT
On the topic of playing loads of minutes, I remember a story I was told about Greg McDonald...
...It was on one of the Scottish weekends when you'd play two away games in the weekend. Think this was Fife on the Saturday and Murrayfield on the Sunday.
After getting humped in Fife, the lads decided that the ebst course of action was to go on a complete bender. When arriving back at the hotel they managed to wake up everyone and make a general nuisance of themselves.
Over breakfast, the chairman pointed out his 'displeasure' at the previous evening's events (particularly given the loss) Greg, who had been the ringleader of the lash up said something along the lines of 'I'm sorry Mr Walker, I'll make it up to you tonight by playing 60 minutes and we will win.'
He did and we won. Epic.
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Post by PeteW on Jan 18, 2009 19:50:48 GMT
Can this be a regular feature if youve got enough pics Stef? Very intresting in a nerdy, nostalgia kinda way You and your big mouth. OK. Identify the Panthers in this photo, taken by my mate from the back of block 9 in the old place, hence not being of professional quality. Extra points if you are able to identify who we are playing, the two players from that side in the photo, and the year. One interesting thing I noticed about this photo is the rectangular goal crease and how unusual it looks now. Also, a Panther in a number 3 shirt, which also looks strange. Warning - I've got lots more photos. My guess is 81. #3 would be Jeff Andison, #12 would be Super Mex (Paul O'Higgins) - No as someone said earlier it is Timmy Peacock - I remember him bleeding all over the ice. I'm guessing the guy in the Fife helmet and socks would be Andy Linton and the guy in the Dundee pants, socks & helmet could be "The Rocket" Roy Halpin who guested for the Panthers in one game. Durham Wasps?
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Post by spik on Jan 18, 2009 20:22:36 GMT
IHNR doesnt exist anymore so i cant see how copyright is infringed Spik?... I,m thinking LOGO, Panthers 'product' etc....apart from asking photograther (who's in the USA ? now) for permission.
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Post by Paul on Jan 19, 2009 10:39:50 GMT
In the days when there was no glass or netting down the sides I suppose players allowed for that where possible, but if you are looking at getting the puck away as quickly as possible you just whack it, and it did go into the crowd on occasions and hit people. Of course, in our memories of those days the hockey was just like today but I have a tape with games from the mid-1980s which I daren't play now in case it turns into dust, but the last time I watched it I was amazed how slow the games were. But in many cases teams played their imports for 50 minutes a game or more, so I suppose they had to pace themselves, and I saw on more than one occasion players stay out for the entire game. You can't imagine that these days. Great stuff The nearest Iv seen to that is Jan Krajicek when playing for Newcastle. I think we counted 51 mins he was on the ice (well, counted 9mins he was sat on the bench). I sort of remember a Richmond player (Peter Grace?) doing about 55 minutes and then coming off with 5 left and lighting up on the bench.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jan 19, 2009 13:11:51 GMT
Reasons to be cheerful (about the old days) - you didn't have to wait long for a goal. You could do football and Panthers in the same day (cost wise it was £2 each). Mini hot dog and chips in the old cafe. Panthers (and opposition) Players joined you for a drink in the bar, I had quite a chat with with a certain goalie turned ref one night after they had beaten us. It was only a game, not life, for players and fans. Thaks god there was no internet in the 80's, the criticism the Brits get now would have probably had most of them packing up back then. Wembley playoff weekend, specially if you win...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2009 19:55:53 GMT
Could I just thank everyone, both here on the thread and in person last night, who have said how much they are enjoying these pictures. I don't know how much longer I can keep up the quiz part of this because on a lot of the remaining pictures it's quite easy to identify players (well, I think it is anyway), but there's a few more pictures to go yet.
Thanks also to the Mods for their indulgence. This should really be in Amnesia Lane, but I think it's getting a wider audience here, so thanks guys.
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