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Post by Daddio on May 7, 2007 10:40:38 GMT
There are rumours on SteelTalk that panthers have/are about to splash big money on a new forward, and that therest of the league may not like sthge sums being discussed. Anyone shed any light on it, this is the rumours thread after all.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2007 10:54:21 GMT
There are rumours on SteelTalk that panthers have/are about to splash big money on a new forward, and that therest of the league may not like sthge sums being discussed. Anyone shed any light on it, this is the rumours thread after all. It's amazing how some Steelers fans can be privvy to the confidential contract negotiations of the Panthers but when pushed for the name of this supposed 'expensive' signing come up blank. I think there's some rather excessive pot stirring on SteelBleat. |
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Post by Mythosman on May 7, 2007 11:48:57 GMT
I would hazard a guess that the speculation revolves around Mark Smith, as if he has offers from European teams, Panthers would have to offer considerably more than they normally would to keep him in the EIHL. Ellis needs to hold a tough line throughout in salary negotiations, and live within his means - not that Mr Black and GM the GM would let him do anything else! Just hope it's not Sutter they are talking about, as SteelTalk has another thread on him pricing himself out of the market!  |
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Post by sawchuk on May 7, 2007 11:56:00 GMT
I would hazard a guess that the speculation revolves around Mark Smith, as if he has offers from European teams, Panthers would have to offer considerably more than they normally would to keep him in the EIHL. Ellis needs to hold a tough line throughout in salary negotiations, and live within his means - not that Mr Black and GM the GM would let him do anything else! Just hope it's not Sutter they are talking about, as SteelTalk has another thread on him pricing himself out of the market! We could always go for his team mate, Birbraer, who I found an article on: Link |
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Post by gazzathedevil on May 7, 2007 12:09:05 GMT
I would hazard a guess that the speculation revolves around Mark Smith, as if he has offers from European teams, Panthers would have to offer considerably more than they normally would to keep him in the EIHL. Ellis needs to hold a tough line throughout in salary negotiations, and live within his means - not that Mr Black and GM the GM would let him do anything else! Just hope it's not Sutter they are talking about, as SteelTalk has another thread on him pricing himself out of the market! We could always go for his team mate, Birbraer, who I found an article on: LinkBirbrear's story is a truly fascinating one, and to talk to the guy is a real experience. He was probably the best board playing Winger in the League last season and him and Smith linked up a charm. I hear he is keen o na return to Cardiff next season and i certainly hope so. He has a bullet of a shot and he enjoyed the ride here last season ,lets hope we can tie him up. |
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Post by sawchuk on May 7, 2007 12:14:10 GMT
We could always go for his team mate, Birbraer, who I found an article on: LinkBirbrear's story is a truly fascinating one, and to talk to the guy is a real experience. He was probably the best board playing Winger in the League last season and him and Smith linked up a charm. I hear he is keen o na return to Cardiff next season and i certainly hope so. He has a bullet of a shot and he enjoyed the ride here last season ,lets hope we can tie him up. I'd love to have him on our roster, but it's also great to hear that he'd like to return to Cardiff. A lot of people moan when the likes of Tessier do what they do, so a bit of stability <player wise> is always a good thing. If Clarke is off to Germany, I feel Panthers will need to sign a top knotch replacement and Birbraer would suit me. |
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Post by NickThePanther44 on May 7, 2007 13:06:10 GMT
we can hardly splash the cash as were stuck to a wage cap although i personally wonder why we dont use loopholes like paying for accomodation etc to get better quality players, i mean if we could afford to spend the cap or at least most of it in the ISL then i dont see why we cant spend more now.
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Post by sawchuk on May 7, 2007 13:08:44 GMT
we can hardly splash the cash as were stuck to a wage cap although i personally wonder why we dont use loopholes like paying for accomodation etc to get better quality players, i mean if we could afford to spend the cap or at least most of it in the ISL then i dont see why we cant spend more now. Nick I personally don't agree with the notion of a cap, but that's another story... |
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Post by barnsleyfan on May 7, 2007 13:10:16 GMT
Splashing the cash? You could fill a bath with the notes alright!  |
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Post by LUFC on May 7, 2007 14:24:24 GMT
we can hardly splash the cash as were stuck to a wage cap although i personally wonder why we dont use loopholes like paying for accomodation etc to get better quality players, i mean if we could afford to spend the cap or at least most of it in the ISL then i dont see why we cant spend more now. Nick Nick i think your being abit naeve there, we do splash the cash through loop holes i guarantee it. |
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Post by john on May 7, 2007 15:13:38 GMT
Simmys said in slovenia that Mr black is letting the cahs roll beacuse he has found a coach who he likes and getting big crowds in! he alse said we was the only club making a Good Profit And All the others clubs were boarderline.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on May 7, 2007 18:05:35 GMT
wasnt being Naive at all JSD, didnt say i dont think we do exploit the loopholes i ment i wish we'd exploit them more and bring better quality players, if we could afford so an so in the ISL why cant we spend the same so and so now on players through the various loopholes.
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Post by DoUrden on May 7, 2007 20:12:42 GMT
Because other teams would have to do the same in order to compete. Causing some to over spend what the can't realisically afford and cause them to have to drop into a lower league that they can afford to compete in or even worse have to fold all together. Then we'd end up with a league of about 4 or 5 teams again playing each other 15 times a season.
Then we'd be back at square 1 where we were 4 or 5 years ago!
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Post by Doom on May 7, 2007 20:52:55 GMT
Because other teams would have to do the same in order to compete. Causing some to over spend what the can't realisically afford and cause them to have to drop into a lower league that they can afford to compete in or even worse have to fold all together. Then we'd end up with a league of about 4 or 5 teams again playing each other 15 times a season. Then we'd be back at square 1 where we were 4 or 5 years ago! At last someone with similar thoughts to myself. As much as I'd love to see the Steelers signing loads of top class players, teams like Basingstoke, Edinburgh and Hull just can't compete at that level financially. If the so called big clubs like Sheffield and Nottingham start splashing the cash then the smaller clubs will no longer be competitive. The wagecap is in place to keep a degree of parity between the haves and the have nots, if the bigger clubs start ignoring it then I fear we'll end up with a league within a league and some of the smaller clubs may decide their future is in the EPL. Do we really want to go down the road of ISL 2 with only 4 or 5 teams in the league? Regards Doom |
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Post by texpef on May 7, 2007 21:17:02 GMT
but to be honest doom the steelers fans and i am pretty sure at the time you felt that too, were more than happy to be beating pretty much with ease the other clubs in the league at the same time spending more than the others both with and without a wagecap at the time....
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Post by Doom on May 8, 2007 6:41:22 GMT
but to be honest doom the steelers fans and i am pretty sure at the time you felt that too, were more than happy to be beating pretty much with ease the other clubs in the league at the same time spending more than the others both with and without a wagecap at the time.... True, but we've since seen the results of such actions. With the benefit of experience I really hope we don't go down that road again. I thought last season all the top teams probably spent a similar amount without anybody breaking the bank, as a result there were a few shock results with the likes of Hull and Edinburgh beating Sheffield and Nottingham. With our bigger budgets I would still expect to see Sheffield and Nottingham finish higher than the likes of Hull/Edinburgh, but it keeps things interesting for both us and them knowing that on any given evening they could beat us. If this season Sheffield and Nottingham up their spending considerably to try and out do each other, it'll push us so far ahead of the smaller budget teams that shock results would become far less likely. I'm not saying that will happen, I just hope it doesn't for the sake of the sport. The person who posted on Steeltalk about Panthers spending big was someone called Nicholas, who I believe is actually a Blaze supporter....Does he know something we don't or is he just guessing? I guess we'll just have to see the quality of players the so called bigger teams sign before we can really tell if anyone is taking the mickey out of the wagecap. Regards Doom |
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Post by Mythosman on May 8, 2007 7:12:57 GMT
Blimey Doom - if we got 'Nicholas' Boynton back for next season, then other teams could quite rightly accuse us of ignoring the wagecap!! Not going to happen though, is it? |
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Post by NickThePanther44 on May 8, 2007 8:52:08 GMT
i know what your saying Dourden but im not asking for Crosby and Boynton im just asking for that little bit more so come the end of next season i can be dancing and getting insanely drunk as i was at the end of the play offs. i dont want us to get to the point where the smaller clubs cant compete either, i can assure you, but i do very much want a league title also
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Post by KimThePanther on May 8, 2007 10:57:24 GMT
This interview made me smile. People in glass houses and all that. Thommo also says this about Taity's probable move up the M1... It made me laugh anyway. 
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Post by jd on May 8, 2007 11:02:40 GMT
Same here, he does have a point though!
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Post by barnsleyfan on May 8, 2007 16:23:59 GMT
Same here, he does have a point though! Does he really?! |
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Post by texpef on May 8, 2007 18:33:11 GMT
so what you are saying is it was all good when steelers did it and won trophies almost without trying (as did other clubs) but when it may be happening in nottingham then it is wrong and all clubs should be on an even footing..... mmmm ok....
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Post by Doom on May 8, 2007 18:50:32 GMT
so what you are saying is it was all good when steelers did it and won trophies almost without trying (as did other clubs) but when it may be happening in nottingham then it is wrong and all clubs should be on an even footing..... mmmm ok.... Nope, what I'm saying is that if our clubs (Note:That includes my club) start spending silly money then it could well signal the beginning of the end for the EIHL. If 4 or 5 clubs decide there's no point in competing with Sheffield/Nottingham anymore, then we'll be back to a league of 4 or 5 teams. Now that might be what you want to watch, but it certainly aint what I want to see. There's more than just Sheffield and Nottingham in this league, our owners need to respect that. The history of the ISL shows us what happens when teams start to spend silly money, I'd like to think both supporters and owners have learnt from that. Like I said earlier, there maybe nothing in the accusations being made, I certainly hope that is the case. Regards Doom |
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Post by texpef on May 8, 2007 20:28:45 GMT
it also shows several trophies in the steelers cabinet that the fans would rather die before than admit any cheating, are they going to give them back? are they hell as like... dont then blame fans of other teams that can maybe now spend more than the steelers want to buy into some of that success... as for a competitive league though i do tend to agree with your attitude NOW towards parity between clubs....
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Post by Doom on May 8, 2007 20:48:56 GMT
it also shows several trophies in the steelers cabinet that the fans would rather die before than admit any cheating, are they going to give them back? are they hell as like... dont then blame fans of other teams that can maybe now spend more than the steelers want to buy into some of that success... as for a competitive league though i do tend to agree with your attitude NOW towards parity between clubs.... So what exactly do you want? Are you saying you're happy to see the Panthers spend big and to hell with the Basingstoke's and Edinburgh's of this world because Sheffield have done it in the past? Remember, it's not Sheffield and Belfast who'll get left behind if you splash the cash, I'm sure our two clubs will match you (or at least get close). The teams who'll suffer are those who came and joined us at the end of the ISL when basically our two clubs had nowhere to go. I really hope next season doesn't become a battle of financial muscle between the big 2 or 3 clubs, because we've been down that road before and it nearly cost both our clubs any sort of future. To date I think the EIHL clubs have generally taken a sensible attitude towards their spending, let's hope that remains the case next season. Regards Doom |
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