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Post by awooga on Oct 15, 2023 18:49:51 GMT
8 points from 10 so far. A good return considering this team does have obvious shortcomings. Every league game has been decided by 1 goal.1OT win and 2 shootout wins. Must be gutting for the moaners that we are winning and picking up points. All those years hockey experience and they actually don’t know better than a professional coach. Who’d have thought it?
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Post by wgray on Oct 15, 2023 18:51:54 GMT
God knows where our defence is, left Rok out to dry big time, if we're not careful we're gonna lose this. Considering we've let 6 in, I think Rok has had a good game. Rok made numerous big saves again tonight but that’s the way it goes, there was some atrocious defending from us, McGurty in particular wasn’t the best at the back. That was a rollercoaster game though, we certainly looked tired and leggy towards the end of OT but they managed to get the job done. Well done boys!
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 15, 2023 18:55:36 GMT
8 points from 10 so far. A good return considering this team does have obvious shortcomings. Every league game has been decided by 1 goal.1OT win and 2 shootout wins. Must be gutting for the moaners that we are winning and picking up points. All those years hockey experience and they actually don’t know better than a professional coach. Who’d have thought it? Well, I dont think there is need for that. This team lacks what most can see it lacks. The pros , including the coach likely knows it lacks too. Of course we should be positive after 8 points from 10, but there are way bigger tests to come in the league yet. We didnt need to go down tbus route, but i'd take a bet with you right now that this team wont finish above 4th without any additions. Not within 15 points of the winners either.
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Post by Jonno on Oct 15, 2023 19:21:46 GMT
Must be gutting for the moaners that we are winning and picking up points. All those years hockey experience and they actually don’t know better than a professional coach. Who’d have thought it? Well, I dont think there is need for that. This team lacks what most can see it lacks. The pros , including the coach likely knows it lacks too. Of course we should be positive after 8 points from 10, but there are way bigger tests to come in the league yet. We didnt need to go down tbus route, but i'd take a bet with you right now that this team wont finish above 4th without any additions. Not within 15 points of the winners either. Spot on…pretty naive comments from Awooga. Points or no points tonight, most people would agree this roster is too lightweight and leaky at the back. Tonight aside, I’m not absolutely sure where the idea of us being freescoring and threatening up top comes from either. Number of goals in 60 mins in previous competitive games this season = 4,2,0,2,3,4,1. Sixteen regulation goals in 7 games at an average of 2.29 is poor to say the least. After tonight we’re now averaging 2.75 regulation gpg after 8 games.
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Post by yeti on Oct 15, 2023 19:22:15 GMT
Good to get a win in Scotland after playing a tough game at home last night. Obviously this team has some spirit and good players but it also has it's weakness. Any team looking to do well after a month into the season should be looking to improve. Now they can see where their weakness lies if they are to be serious contenders.
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Post by awooga on Oct 15, 2023 19:24:49 GMT
Comments aimed at the echo chamber of moaners who seem to take pleasure in defeat, and have already mentioned the coach should be sacked.
Needs strengthening without doubt, but credit where it’s due when we win - not just “ I told you so” when we lose.
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Post by spik on Oct 15, 2023 19:34:27 GMT
I know there are question marks about how we're performing, but that's 8 points out of a possible 10. Same return as the Steelers. I think we need some roster changes, but at least we're still getting points ATM. Myself, I was thinking, we are not winning these well but then again we are winning. Not the regulation needed, as we are giving points away also. Only a worry as the top teams may be taking the two in regulation. But two is two and I’d be happy to hear we win ALL in OT then it’s up to us to beat our ‘classed’ arena sides. In OT again if you like.
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Post by DMS on Oct 15, 2023 19:37:42 GMT
I know there are question marks about how we're performing, but that's 8 points out of a possible 10. Same return as the Steelers. I think we need some roster changes, but at least we're still getting points ATM. Myself, I was thinking, we are not winning these well but then again we are winning. Not the regulation needed, as we are giving points away also. Only a worry as top teams may be taking the two in regulation. But two is two and I’d be happy to hear we win ALL in OT then up to us to beat our ‘classed’ arena sides. In OT again if you like. Who ordered the word salad?!?
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Post by Spooks on Oct 15, 2023 19:38:07 GMT
Comments aimed at the echo chamber of moaners who seem to take pleasure in defeat, and have already mentioned the coach should be sacked. Needs strengthening without doubt, but credit where it’s due when we win - not just “ I told you so” when we lose. Yet to see anything of that..... so all i can assume is your after drama where nonis to be had.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2023 19:39:10 GMT
Must be gutting for the moaners that we are winning and picking up points. All those years hockey experience and they actually don’t know better than a professional coach. Who’d have thought it? Well, I dont think there is need for that. This team lacks what most can see it lacks. The pros , including the coach likely knows it lacks too. Of course we should be positive after 8 points from 10, but there are way bigger tests to come in the league yet. We didnt need to go down tbus route, but i'd take a bet with you right now that this team wont finish above 4th without any additions. Not within 15 points of the winners either. Exactly... It's the games against Sheffield and Belfast in particular which will tell you where this club are at.. The team have good spirit but top sides don't go goals up only to lose the lead on the next shift numerous times over.
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Post by awooga on Oct 15, 2023 19:53:43 GMT
Comments aimed at the echo chamber of moaners who seem to take pleasure in defeat, and have already mentioned the coach should be sacked. Needs strengthening without doubt, but credit where it’s due when we win - not just “ I told you so” when we lose. Yet to see anything of that..... so all i can assume is your after drama where nonis to be had. Flying Shirt said (after a home win) Parades is a complete knob - I don’t know where Pasha finds them” Another was saying that after watching “1,000s” of games that they knew we would be poor / bullied. There’s plenty of examples of this. I wonder why some with their expertise aren’t invoked professionally as they clearly know better. Whilst I agree we need more, we have a new coach, entirely new team and not every signing will work. I agree that we need an enforcer, but if the officials are ignoring stuff and trying to level up “injustices” then it doesn’t matter who’s out there. Fair play to them for coming through last night’s battle, then travelling a fair distance and winning against a team who didn’t have a game the previous night. There is some fight there, and the nucleus of a decent side (with additional bodies).
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Post by katia on Oct 15, 2023 20:11:55 GMT
Considering we've let 6 in, I think Rok has had a good game. Rok made numerous big saves again tonight but that’s the way it goes, there was some atrocious defending from us, McGurty in particular wasn’t the best at the back. That was a rollercoaster game though, we certainly looked tired and leggy towards the end of OT but they managed to get the job done. Well done boys!
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Post by spik on Oct 15, 2023 20:12:46 GMT
Myself, I was thinking, we are not winning these well but then again we are winning. Not the regulation needed, as we are giving points away also. Only a worry as top teams may be taking the two in regulation. But two is two and I’d be happy to hear we win ALL in OT then up to us to beat our ‘classed’ arena sides. In OT again if you like. Who ordered the word salad?!? Was worried we are giving points away when others are bagging regulation wins. But, overall, I guess we should be happy with the two points by games end however they come, as long as we can beat the big boys. Even in OT too.
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Post by katia on Oct 15, 2023 20:13:04 GMT
Good thing McGurty was good in the front then. With two goals.
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Post by wgray on Oct 15, 2023 20:26:00 GMT
Good thing McGurty was good in the front then. With two goals. Not sure how he’s been credited with a second goal, Nieminen stepped into the slot and rifled it into the net, so it should be his goal. It was a nice deflection by McGurty on the goal he scored though, he’s been decent so far this season, just felt if he’d been a bit quicker around our net we wouldn’t have conceded as many and it wouldn’t have been such a stressful game😂 We got over the line though so all is well
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 15, 2023 20:27:29 GMT
8 points from 10 so far. A good return considering this team does have obvious shortcomings. Every league game has been decided by 1 goal.1OT win and 2 shootout wins. Must be gutting for the moaners that we are winning and picking up points. All those years hockey experience and they actually don’t know better than a professional coach. Who’d have thought it? I think that's potentially a tad premature. It's good we're getting points on the board, but it's not at all convincing. Key for me is bring in reinforcements now while we're still winning, rather than waiting till we start losing.
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 15, 2023 20:29:12 GMT
I said before a puck was dropped that a new coach with a near enough entirely changed squad was going to have its problems, which it has had and not all signings would prove to be successful. The former of those has occurred and the latter remains to be seen but if you offered me 8 points from 10 before the season started I wouldn’t snapped your arm off.
Clearly there are things to improve upon and certain players need to up their game and output but I think there are grounds to feel reasonably optimistic about what the team could potentially achieve going forward, but it won’t happen overnight.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Oct 15, 2023 21:41:19 GMT
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Post by Spooks on Oct 16, 2023 7:27:12 GMT
Look some nice movement and goals from them clips. Leaky defences are way more fun to watch
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Post by float on Oct 16, 2023 7:39:39 GMT
As someone who considers themselves 'one of the optimistic bunch', here's my take:
Pros:
I thought we played quite well in Glasgow. Our forwards look threatening in all 3 periods rather than just the one that they did on Saturday. Rok, even after shipping 6 goals, I thought had a good game, not great but he kept us in the match multiple times. For the first time in what seems like forever, we seem to be a team who are good at shootouts, Lunsjo was a superb goal and Rok stood tall. Proper old school hockey of "we'll score 1 more than you". Reminds me of hockey of 15-20 years ago, really fun to watch but equally frustrating. Lemay hat-trick and 4 goals this weekend.
Cons:
Defensively we've let in 6 goals twice in 2 away games, not a good sign. Still need a bit of additional manpower whether that be at the front or back, I'm not really fussed, but just a bit of a bigger body to lay a few checks. Oh and if he could win a few faceoffs that would be good. Game management. Whilst I was happy that we never let Glasgow scoring affect us, we still gave up a lead 5 times in the game, that can't keep happening.
Very happy with the league start, as most have said 8/10 points I'd have taken. What I am cautious of though is that 6 of those points have come against Guildford, Glasgow and Dundee who all at the moment look to be sitting in the bottom 3. We need some of these results to continue against the teams higher up the rankings. But we can only wait for those games.
Pleased with what I've seen overall, lots to be done but I sense at least more entertaining season than the last 2.
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Post by bobness on Oct 16, 2023 8:40:14 GMT
As someone who considers themselves 'one of the optimistic bunch', here's my take: Pros: I thought we played quite well in Glasgow. Our forwards look threatening in all 3 periods rather than just the one that they did on Saturday. Rok, even after shipping 6 goals, I thought had a good game, not great but he kept us in the match multiple times. For the first time in what seems like forever, we seem to be a team who are good at shootouts, Lunsjo was a superb goal and Rok stood tall. Proper old school hockey of "we'll score 1 more than you". Reminds me of hockey of 15-20 years ago, really fun to watch but equally frustrating. Lemay hat-trick and 4 goals this weekend. Cons: Defensively we've let in 6 goals twice in 2 away games, not a good sign. Still need a bit of additional manpower whether that be at the front or back, I'm not really fussed, but just a bit of a bigger body to lay a few checks. Oh and if he could win a few faceoffs that would be good. Game management. Whilst I was happy that we never let Glasgow scoring affect us, we still gave up a lead 5 times in the game, that can't keep happening. Very happy with the league start, as most have said 8/10 points I'd have taken. What I am cautious of though is that 6 of those points have come against Guildford, Glasgow and Dundee who all at the moment look to be sitting in the bottom 3. We need some of these results to continue against the teams higher up the rankings. But we can only wait for those games. Pleased with what I've seen overall, lots to be done but I sense at least more entertaining season than the last 2. I'll go with that. Most pressing need is getting Michaud to stop taking faceoffs. He's worse than Lacho was. Lots of people who said we'd be rubbish also had Clan as one of the better teams. You "win" some... If we can have 8/10 points (and you can only beat what's in front of you) that's a great start. Sterner tests will follow, sure, but I've already seen far more decent, quality, "together" hockey this season than I did pretty much all last season.
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Post by float on Oct 16, 2023 8:44:51 GMT
Will also add that the next league game opponents are:
Dundee Fife Manchester Glasgow Cardiff Glasgow Dundee Fife
Now, we have a real chance to generate some momentum over that run, with hopefully a new addition soon (pretty please Panthers) we have time to gel as a squad and hopefully hit some good form for the Xmas period. I can't see anyone beating Belfast this season, but as long as we're competitive, that's all I want from the season.
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Post by shinobi on Oct 16, 2023 15:10:03 GMT
Will also add that the next league game opponents are: Dundee Fife Manchester Glasgow Cardiff Glasgow Dundee Fife Now, we have a real chance to generate some momentum over that run, with hopefully a new addition soon (pretty please Panthers) we have time to gel as a squad and hopefully hit some good form for the Xmas period. I can't see anyone beating Belfast this season, but as long as we're competitive, that's all I want from the season. Definitely the opportunity to get some points from those fixtures & I concur that Panthers hopefully bring in some additional bodies. Our tickets are booked for the forth coming Fife game too.
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Post by bobness on Oct 17, 2023 7:24:08 GMT
Just noticed, Clan goals 3-6 all scored with 4 common players on the ice for Panthers. Ollie and Anderson both -4 for the evening's work. Ouch.
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Post by bobness on Oct 19, 2023 10:49:02 GMT
Good thing McGurty was good in the front then. With two goals. Not sure how he’s been credited with a second goal, Nieminen stepped into the slot and rifled it into the net, so it should be his goal. Now sorted after some extensive reallocation of assist and goals. Notables Anderson and Ollie -4 Lemay and Lunsjo +4 Neill played 31:26, apparently. Basically half the game.
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