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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 9:07:42 GMT
It's been tin pot for years it's a closed shop old boys club and they wonder why better sports networks don't want to cover or have anything to do with the league .. the sooner the league removes the likes of Simms, Smith, kelman etc and all other conflict of interest then it ain't moving forward professionally But they are "the league"... Wrong wrong and wrong... Without the supporters who turn up they'd be no league .. they may have huge egos and think the league wouldn't survive without them that's probably why the league is stagnant
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Post by bobness on Mar 14, 2023 10:49:29 GMT
But they are "the league"... Wrong wrong and wrong... Without the supporters who turn up they'd be no league .. they may have huge egos and think the league wouldn't survive without them that's probably why the league is stagnant No, I mean they are the league, in terms of management. Thus "the league" is unlikely to forcibly excise bits of itself. "The league" simply isn't big enough to have an independent tier of management. The 10 clubs sit round the table and make decisions. That's just how it is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 10:59:34 GMT
Wrong wrong and wrong... Without the supporters who turn up they'd be no league .. they may have huge egos and think the league wouldn't survive without them that's probably why the league is stagnant No, I mean they are the league, in terms of management. Thus "the league" is unlikely to forcibly excise bits of itself. "The league" simply isn't big enough to have an independent tier of management. The 10 clubs sit round the table and make decisions. That's just how it is. Utter nonsense. The league is quite capable of having a management team who have no affiliation of any team .. is the chairman of the BBL a owner of a team in the league? www.bbl.org.uk/bbl-board/Our league isn't big enough . Compare attendances across both sports!
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Post by iginla on Mar 14, 2023 11:12:36 GMT
It's been tin pot for years it's a closed shop old boys club and they wonder why better sports networks don't want to cover or have anything to do with the league .. the sooner the league removes the likes of Simms, Smith, kelman etc and all other conflict of interest then it ain't moving forward professionally But they are "the league"... Haha All we need now is “Haribo” to sponsor the EIHL. 😆
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Post by bobness on Mar 14, 2023 12:48:52 GMT
No, I mean they are the league, in terms of management. Thus "the league" is unlikely to forcibly excise bits of itself. "The league" simply isn't big enough to have an independent tier of management. The 10 clubs sit round the table and make decisions. That's just how it is. Utter nonsense. The league is quite capable of having a management team who have no affiliation of any team .. is the chairman of the BBL a owner of a team in the league? www.bbl.org.uk/bbl-board/Our league isn't big enough . Compare attendances across both sports! That'll be the British Basketball League Limited, with all those fancy Dan directors, that is £300k in negative equity, having lost a million pounds in the last year, and has had to be propped up by a significant TP investor? Not exactly a roaring success so far, I'd say. They've spent a heck of a lot of someone else's money. Still, if that's the model you're happy with, fill your boots.
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Post by bobness on Mar 14, 2023 12:54:10 GMT
Anyway, not sure what this has to do with who "we" may or may not want back next season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 13:53:45 GMT
Utter nonsense. The league is quite capable of having a management team who have no affiliation of any team .. is the chairman of the BBL a owner of a team in the league? www.bbl.org.uk/bbl-board/Our league isn't big enough . Compare attendances across both sports! That'll be the British Basketball League Limited, with all those fancy Dan directors, that is £300k in negative equity, having lost a million pounds in the last year, and has had to be propped up by a significant TP investor? Not exactly a roaring success so far, I'd say. They've spent a heck of a lot of someone else's money. Still, if that's the model you're happy with, fill your boots. So they have outside investors? So what .. it's a league which isn't always 2 days from collapse unlike the EIHL.. teams in that leagues ain't dropping in and out every year.. oh and sky TV entertain them too....a EIHL fan is in no position to criticise them..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 13:54:50 GMT
Anyway, not sure what this has to do with who "we" may or may not want back next season. Because the words 'EIHL' and 'TIN POT' keep getting mentioned
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Post by Yotes on Mar 14, 2023 14:09:24 GMT
Anyway, not sure what this has to do with who "we" may or may not want back next season. Good point, moved up Money Talks, as it's a bit more in that area.
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Post by bobness on Mar 14, 2023 14:55:32 GMT
That'll be the British Basketball League Limited, with all those fancy Dan directors, that is £300k in negative equity, having lost a million pounds in the last year, and has had to be propped up by a significant TP investor? Not exactly a roaring success so far, I'd say. They've spent a heck of a lot of someone else's money. Still, if that's the model you're happy with, fill your boots. So they have outside investors? So what .. it's a league which isn't always 2 days from collapse unlike the EIHL.. teams in that leagues ain't dropping in and out every year.. oh and sky TV entertain them too....a EIHL fan is in no position to criticise them.. Sounds like the BBL was closer to collapse than that. Might still be. And the parity of the league is way more spread than the EIHL. (London have won 24 of 26, Surrey 3 of 27) And selling something that almost every kid can have a go at in a park or playground is different to ice hockey... It's not as rosy as you make out, just because Lord so and so is Chairman. We could argue all day, and I suspect you'll want the last word, so I'll leave that door open for you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 15:18:32 GMT
So they have outside investors? So what .. it's a league which isn't always 2 days from collapse unlike the EIHL.. teams in that leagues ain't dropping in and out every year.. oh and sky TV entertain them too....a EIHL fan is in no position to criticise them.. Sounds like the BBL was closer to collapse than that. Might still be. And the parity of the league is way more spread than the EIHL. (London have won 24 of 26, Surrey 3 of 27) And selling something that almost every kid can have a go at in a park or playground is different to ice hockey... It's not as rosy as you make out, just because Lord so and so is Chairman. We could argue all day, and I suspect you'll want the last word, so I'll leave that door open for you. Lord or no lord.. sir or no sir at least he has no affiliation to any team.. that doesn't make them tin pot like other leagues and I bet it doesn't have owners owning multiple teams either .. I will have the last word if you are trying to defend the EIHL .. ever heard of you can't defend the indefensible?
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 14, 2023 15:19:29 GMT
So they have outside investors? So what .. it's a league which isn't always 2 days from collapse unlike the EIHL.. teams in that leagues ain't dropping in and out every year.. oh and sky TV entertain them too....a EIHL fan is in no position to criticise them.. Sounds like the BBL was closer to collapse than that. Might still be. And the parity of the league is way more spread than the EIHL. (London have won 24 of 26, Surrey 3 of 27) And selling something that almost every kid can have a go at in a park or playground is different to ice hockey... It's not as rosy as you make out, just because Lord so and so is Chairman. We could argue all day, and I suspect you'll want the last word, so I'll leave that door open for you. The fact of ice hockey being a tougher sell doesn't hold much water when we're so bad at selling it. We don't have people who could sell ice to eskimos, we have people who would struggle to give away free whale blubber to eskimos!
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Post by bobness on Mar 14, 2023 17:09:24 GMT
Sounds like the BBL was closer to collapse than that. Might still be. And the parity of the league is way more spread than the EIHL. (London have won 24 of 26, Surrey 3 of 27) And selling something that almost every kid can have a go at in a park or playground is different to ice hockey... It's not as rosy as you make out, just because Lord so and so is Chairman. We could argue all day, and I suspect you'll want the last word, so I'll leave that door open for you. Lord or no lord.. sir or no sir at least he has no affiliation to any team.. that doesn't make them tin pot like other leagues and I bet it doesn't have owners owning multiple teams either .. I will have the last word if you are trying to defend the EIHL .. ever heard of you can't defend the indefensible? "London Lions is owned by 777 Partners. 777 Partners also purchased 45% of the British Basketball League (BBL) for £7m in December 2021. The balance of BBL is owned by the 10 clubs that compete in the BBL, including London, therefore, effectively 777 controls the BBL." So in the BBL, the current most successful team is owned directly by the same people who own 45% of the entire league, therefore meaning that 777 have effective control of the league? (45% direct + 10% of 55% = > 50%?). Can you defend that in the same terms? Owners may not own multiple teams (although I'm not 100% sure of this) but the business that owns nearly half the whole league also happens to own its most successful team? Still, if that were the EIHL that would be fine, right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 17:59:01 GMT
It's not the same is it! If all 10 members have a share that's not the same as one man have a controlling stake in 2 clubs and not in the other 8 .. it would be a valid point if Black had a equal stake in all 10 clubs ...but he doesn't
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Post by Yotes on Mar 14, 2023 18:42:17 GMT
In fairness Pidge, that BBL setup looks pretty tin pot too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 18:46:51 GMT
In fairness Pidge, that BBL setup looks pretty tin pot too. Tin Pot and still on sky sports ... Must be doing something right .. I bet they ain't paying a TV channel to put them on and actually sponsored by them and are still hardly on..
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