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Post by wgray on Nov 8, 2022 19:34:38 GMT
Think GG has had to do something, he’s hanging on by his fingertips I hear. He has to find a player also that can feed Ferrera and ignite his game. Ferrara got powerplay time on Sunday and on the same unit as Hammond. His shot did lead to Brassards goal, I think the goalie saved it onto the post and it was then put away. He also had another chance with some space in the slot and fired it into the goalies chest, so he’s getting chances but yet to finish. He’ll get a goal soon With regards to GG I don’t think it’s any good chopping and changing coaches like we have been, a core includes the coach
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 8, 2022 19:52:13 GMT
What's the betting Johnston starts banging them in at his new club! It's the coach who needs to go! either the coach and players have to go or just the players. Changing only GG would be completely pointless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 20:01:51 GMT
What's the betting Johnston starts banging them in at his new club! It's the coach who needs to go! either the coach and players have to go or just the players. Changing only GG would be completely pointless. Would we fair the same way then if Adam Keefe replaced GG?
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 8, 2022 20:06:10 GMT
either the coach and players have to go or just the players. Changing only GG would be completely pointless. Would we fair the same way then if Adam Keefe replaced GG? poorly built team I doubt any coach could get a lot out of them. Mid table team at best.
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Post by iginla on Nov 8, 2022 20:06:20 GMT
The point of the ‘secondary toughness’ to me isn’t about scrapping necessarily, but in providing a physical edge up front, playing the body and being dynamic on the forecheck. Hunts bonus was that he was a good fighter to boot. Gagnon can deal with the heavies, but the way I read this guy can stick up for his teammates if need be and fight if necessary with some middle weights. The bit I’m most excited about is the hitting on the forecheck. I’d love to see stats on our hit totals, as I’d guess they’d be near the bottom of any kind of table. The amount of times defenceman go behind their goal to retrieve a puck and don’t get checked is infuriating for me, hopefully Ricci plays with an edge and makes behind their own net a more daunting place for D men to go! You are spot on in terms of what he role should be and what secondary toughness is. That hitting and forechecking. I cant honestly say I've ever noticed the guy so of course he get's chance to prove himself. For a guy that hits and will fight to stick up for team mates, aswell as perhaps playing with an edge his career PIMs are quite low. That's why i'm a little concerned as to if he really is a big hitting, protector type. He isn’t. Just the cheap easy signing who’s already in the UK made out to be “just what they need”. 😊
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Post by iginla on Nov 8, 2022 20:08:03 GMT
What's the betting Johnston starts banging them in at his new club! It's the coach who needs to go! At The Skydome ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 20:17:41 GMT
Would we fair the same way then if Adam Keefe replaced GG? poorly built team I doubt any coach could get a lot out of them. Mid table team at best. Ok then
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 8, 2022 20:27:54 GMT
poorly built team I doubt any coach could get a lot out of them. Mid table team at best. Ok then so you think GG is just a completely useless coach who spent 9 years at fort Wayne for no reason. I’ll fully admit he built the team terribly wrong but I don’t think he is a clueless coach. He clearly wanted a completely different team to the one he signed.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 8, 2022 20:28:14 GMT
Think GG has had to do something, he’s hanging on by his fingertips I hear. He has to find a player also that can feed Ferrera and ignite his game. Ferrara got powerplay time on Sunday and on the same unit as Hammond. His shot did lead to Brassards goal, I think the goalie saved it onto the post and it was then put away. He also had another chance with some space in the slot and fired it into the goalies chest, so he’s getting chances but yet to finish. He’ll get a goal soon With regards to GG I don’t think it’s any good chopping and changing coaches like we have been, a core includes the coach I am not seeing any signs of a core at all
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Post by spik on Nov 8, 2022 20:33:26 GMT
Well the 'off ice' photos have switched quickly on the website at least. So now it's down to business 'on' the actual ice.
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Post by Joe on Nov 8, 2022 20:51:22 GMT
so you think GG is just a completely useless coach who spent 9 years at fort Wayne for no reason. I’ll fully admit he built the team terribly wrong but I don’t think he is a clueless coach. He clearly wanted a completely different team to the one he signed. Since Neilson left not one mid season coaching change has resulted in a drastic improvement in results/performances, so if GG is the issue like you claim then we’ll end up in the same place regardless of what we do. The league is gone so I’m willing to give him time to make changes so that he can try to turn it around and prove to us that he’s good enough to keep his job for next season, if he fails then we’ll be looking for a new coach in the summer like we would be if we sacked him now.
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Post by iginla on Nov 8, 2022 20:52:41 GMT
so you think GG is just a completely useless coach who spent 9 years at fort Wayne for no reason. I’ll fully admit he built the team terribly wrong but I don’t think he is a clueless coach. He clearly wanted a completely different team to the one he signed. Considering GG built the team (with more than a little help from Pacha) and today finally admitted that the forwards are all the same,I wonder which players he thought were going to be different ? 🤔
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 8, 2022 20:54:09 GMT
so you think GG is just a completely useless coach who spent 9 years at fort Wayne for no reason. I’ll fully admit he built the team terribly wrong but I don’t think he is a clueless coach. He clearly wanted a completely different team to the one he signed. Since Neilson left not one mid season coaching change has resulted in a drastic improvement in results/performances, so if GG is the issue like you claim then we’ll end up in the same place regardless of what we do. The league is gone so I’m willing to give him time to make changes so that he can try to turn it around and prove to us that he’s good enough to keep his job for next season, if he fails then we’ll be looking for a new coach in the summer like we would be if we sacked him now. exactly. I can’t see a point in sacking him now.
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 8, 2022 20:56:25 GMT
so you think GG is just a completely useless coach who spent 9 years at fort Wayne for no reason. I’ll fully admit he built the team terribly wrong but I don’t think he is a clueless coach. He clearly wanted a completely different team to the one he signed. Considering GG built the team (with more than a little help from Pacha) and today finally admitted that the forwards are all the same,I wonder which players he thought were going to be different ? 🤔 im assuming he wanted some players that didn’t wanna come. He almost had a player to play the way he described in hunt but lost him. Just a assumption too but I’d imagine Omar had more of a say in the team than they said.
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Post by wgray on Nov 8, 2022 21:24:41 GMT
Ferrara got powerplay time on Sunday and on the same unit as Hammond. His shot did lead to Brassards goal, I think the goalie saved it onto the post and it was then put away. He also had another chance with some space in the slot and fired it into the goalies chest, so he’s getting chances but yet to finish. He’ll get a goal soon With regards to GG I don’t think it’s any good chopping and changing coaches like we have been, a core includes the coach I am not seeing any signs of a core at all It’s about building one out of the successful players we have, chopping and changing every season achieves nothing. You don’t think there’s any decent players in this team?
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Post by iginla on Nov 8, 2022 21:27:02 GMT
Considering GG built the team (with more than a little help from Pacha) and today finally admitted that the forwards are all the same,I wonder which players he thought were going to be different ? 🤔 im assuming he wanted some players that didn’t wanna come. He almost had a player to play the way he described in hunt but lost him. Just a assumption too but I’d imagine Omar had more of a say in the team than they said. I get Hunt not coming, but once he pulled out why didn’t they go for somebody else in a similar mould ? It doesn’t makes sense. I’d say Pacha had far more than a passing role in this years team too and I’d bet GG feels like he’s been badly let down by what he was told to expect from some of them.
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Post by iginla on Nov 8, 2022 21:30:26 GMT
I am not seeing any signs of a core at all It’s about building one out of the successful players we have, chopping and changing every season achieves nothing. You don’t think there’s any decent players in this team? Welsh,Caruso,Hammond and Welchyka would be the only imports you’d want to keep and two of those will be gone faster than a rat up a drainpipe as soon as they finish at University. So I can’t see much of a core left either.
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 8, 2022 21:32:22 GMT
im assuming he wanted some players that didn’t wanna come. He almost had a player to play the way he described in hunt but lost him. Just a assumption too but I’d imagine Omar had more of a say in the team than they said. I get Hunt not coming, but once he pulled out why didn’t they go for somebody else in a similar mould ? It doesn’t makes sense. I’d say Pacha had far more than a passing role in this years team too and I’d bet GG feels like he’s been badly let down by what he was told to expect from some of them. that’s what I can’t figure out either. Welychka is great but a completely different player to hunt.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 8, 2022 21:40:28 GMT
I am not seeing any signs of a core at all It’s about building one out of the successful players we have, chopping and changing every season achieves nothing. You don’t think there’s any decent players in this team? Players that are not bound to leave after their uni course finishes ? No
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Post by wgray on Nov 8, 2022 22:06:44 GMT
It’s about building one out of the successful players we have, chopping and changing every season achieves nothing. You don’t think there’s any decent players in this team? Players that are not bound to leave after their uni course finishes ? No So there are some players you’d like to keep. But, this is where Pacha and Graham have got to truly show how the club has improved. Retaining Welsh, for example, after he’s completed his degree would be a sign that things have changed. Even obtaining more uni spaces and offering them to successful players, to keep them for a further two years, would be a sign of improvement
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Post by wgray on Nov 8, 2022 22:07:25 GMT
It’s about building one out of the successful players we have, chopping and changing every season achieves nothing. You don’t think there’s any decent players in this team? Welsh,Caruso,Hammond and Welchyka would be the only imports you’d want to keep and two of those will be gone faster than a rat up a drainpipe as soon as they finish at University. So I can’t see much of a core left either. You’ve got to entice them Iggy
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 8, 2022 22:22:22 GMT
Players that are not bound to leave after their uni course finishes ? No So there are some players you’d like to keep. But, this is where Pacha and Graham have got to truly show how the club has improved. Retaining Welsh, for example, after he’s completed his degree would be a sign that things have changed. Even obtaining more uni spaces and offering them to successful players, to keep them for a further two years, would be a sign of improvement Not sure that I can remember any player staying after their uni course has finished but if he was to I would keep Welsh. Hammond and Welychka possibly with the right players around them, Dubeau possibly but I’m struggling to see a core
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Post by iginla on Nov 8, 2022 22:27:19 GMT
Welsh,Caruso,Hammond and Welchyka would be the only imports you’d want to keep and two of those will be gone faster than a rat up a drainpipe as soon as they finish at University. So I can’t see much of a core left either. You’ve got to entice them Iggy Welsh and Caruso will both be 35 by the time next season starts. You aren’t going to be enticing them to stay for very long !
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Post by samjohnson345 on Nov 8, 2022 22:32:32 GMT
Personally would like GG to get a prolonged period. He was the right man three months ago but in a league he’s never seen before etc, would be intrigued to see the team he has to start the next season. I know transitional seasons are rare in UK hockey, but like a previous poster commented, a core returning year in year out includes a coach. Dubeau, Caruso, Welsh, Hammond, Welychka and Sorensen (amazed noones mentioned him - top points scorer and gets under opponents skin) would be a good group to build around, plus Ferrara who will come good, Hazeldine and Hopkins as young Brits. Don’t discount Levin either, young and has put up numbers, showing flashes of brilliance. A few good seasons here could do him good before potentially trying his luck in Europe again or in the states. Yes mistakes have been made in recruitment, but hopefully we’re on the right lines and can keep getting better. Just my humble opinion of course.
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Post by sevcik on Nov 8, 2022 22:36:31 GMT
Think GG has had to do something, he’s hanging on by his fingertips I hear. He has to find a player also that can feed Ferrera and ignite his game. Then maybe Omar could help his coach just a little more by not turning a blind eye to the drinking culture mainly courtesy of a certain dump/sponsor around the corner. I'm no GG fan at present but he was quoted as saying he didn't want to sign players who just like spending time in the pub with fans. Obviously Omar disagrees. No one begrudges players a drink now and then, but whilst it goes beyond that no matter how many new fans friendly regimes we have off ice, the club will never succeed on it. This scenario is nothing new. Just ask Rich Chernomaz
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