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Post by wgray on Nov 5, 2022 1:08:17 GMT
Someone please tell me how this brand new era is any different from the crappy old era? The longest con in British ice hockey.......Ever. What’s got to change then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 6:38:13 GMT
Someone please tell me how this brand new era is any different from the crappy old era? The longest con in British ice hockey.......Ever. What’s got to change then? No point mate.. after every loss the same boring stuff gets churned out! Didn't hear that last weekend eh 😉
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Post by jd on Nov 5, 2022 7:02:55 GMT
Someone please tell me how this brand new era is any different from the crappy old era? The longest con in British ice hockey.......Ever. What’s got to change then? The owner
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 8:35:40 GMT
What’s got to change then? The owner He ain't selling up anytime soon...
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Post by Mark on Nov 5, 2022 9:00:54 GMT
Someone please tell me how this brand new era is any different from the crappy old era? The longest con in British ice hockey.......Ever. What’s got to change then? . The prat in the polo neck. Changing the coach again, well how's that worked out? Different players, no difference on the ice. Cosmetically the culture has changed, but underneath it's business as usual.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 5, 2022 9:18:14 GMT
We played as well as we could but Cardiff just shut us down. Two things, the first three lines are impossible to tell apart they are so similar and two just how easy they shut Hammond down
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Post by iginla on Nov 5, 2022 10:02:30 GMT
Someone please tell me how this brand new era is any different from the crappy old era? The longest con in British ice hockey.......Ever. Other than the social media side and relatively unimportant game night frills improving nothing has changed. The on ice product is still badly lacking,crowds are still dropping and Panthers will end up as usual in their customary mid table slot. The owner still hides,the coach still talks BS and even the GM (sorry CEO) now seems to have all but disappeared. All in all,it’s still just as crap as it has been for the last ten years !
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 5, 2022 10:10:29 GMT
We played as well as we could but Cardiff just shut us down. Two things, the first three lines are impossible to tell apart they are so similar and two just how easy they shut Hammond down Balance! Balance! Balance! Most of us have been able to see it for axlong time already havn't we? To many clones. Get some grit and size and it allows Hammond to do his work more effectivly. The question is, can the coach and CEO not see what we can see. Fans that cant possibly know more than people that play/coach the game. Or is somebody not prepared to fund the changes that the coach and CEO know need to be made. This is why I find it so difficult to simply take aim at Coach or CEO, or even players to some extent. Without knowing for sure whats causing us not to make the required changes we cant with full confidence lay the blame at one persons door. Myers, Caruso, Hammond and Welsh for example could all be screaming that they need some size, that they need a grinder. The coach could be pulling his hair out begging Pacha for it and it's him saying no. They could all be begging Black and he's saying no chance. Most of us have worked in a team at times where you know you need something else or somebody else with a certain skill set to help you deliver your goals and how difficult it can be when that doesn't happen.
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Post by iginla on Nov 5, 2022 10:32:37 GMT
We played as well as we could but Cardiff just shut us down. Two things, the first three lines are impossible to tell apart they are so similar and two just how easy they shut Hammond down Balance! Balance! Balance! Most of us have been able to see it for axlong time already havn't we? To many clones. Get some grit and size and it allows Hammond to do his work more effectivly. The question is, can the coach and CEO not see what we can see. Fans that cant possibly know more than people that play/coach the game. Or is somebody not prepared to fund the changes that the coach and CEO know need to be made. This is why I find it so difficult to simply take aim at Coach or CEO, or even players to some extent. Without knowing for sure whats causing us not to make the required changes we cant with full confidence lay the blame at one persons door. Myers, Caruso, Hammond and Welsh for example could all be screaming that they need some size, that they need a grinder. The coach could be pulling his hair out begging Pacha for it and it's him saying no. They could all be begging Black and he's saying no chance. Most of us have worked in a team at times where you know you need something else or somebody else with a certain skill set to help you deliver your goals and how difficult it can be when that doesn't happen. I do recall a fairly early interview with GG where he talks about about being very loyal to his players and giving them every chance. Nothing wrong with that,admirable in fact,but there comes a point and we seem to be well past it now when loyalty has to go out the window and action needs taking to give those remaining players a kick up the backside. A dozen games into the league season now and even the most loyal and optimistic of fans would struggle to argue that this team could even finish top 3 never mind win the title.
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 5, 2022 10:35:46 GMT
We played as well as we could but Cardiff just shut us down. Two things, the first three lines are impossible to tell apart they are so similar and two just how easy they shut Hammond down Balance! Balance! Balance! Most of us have been able to see it for axlong time already havn't we? To many clones. Get some grit and size and it allows Hammond to do his work more effectivly. The question is, can the coach and CEO not see what we can see. Fans that cant possibly know more than people that play/coach the game. Or is somebody not prepared to fund the changes that the coach and CEO know need to be made. This is why I find it so difficult to simply take aim at Coach or CEO, or even players to some extent. Without knowing for sure whats causing us not to make the required changes we cant with full confidence lay the blame at one persons door. Myers, Caruso, Hammond and Welsh for example could all be screaming that they need some size, that they need a grinder. The coach could be pulling his hair out begging Pacha for it and it's him saying no. They could all be begging Black and he's saying no chance. Most of us have worked in a team at times where you know you need something else or somebody else with a certain skill set to help you deliver your goals and how difficult it can be when that doesn't happen. im honestly amazed we haven’t made changes yet (Getting rid of players and replacing them not just bringing in another clone in levin).
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Post by iginla on Nov 5, 2022 11:35:13 GMT
Have you seen GG’s vanilla post game interview from last night ? Just more waffle with a run down of the games events, nothing at all about any action being taken,job threats or how things are going to change etc. Maybe when he’s lost his job !
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Post by scoobydoo on Nov 5, 2022 11:58:04 GMT
But what I don’t understand Glasgow the club he’s suppose selling but they keep on buying players
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Post by wannabe2 on Nov 5, 2022 12:33:05 GMT
Being a Panthers fan must be so frustrating, having such a Lush home, good crowds nice City, but then being mediocre year after year must be a right bummer. Plus having that lot down the road rubbing it in has to be so irritating. From my point of view being a Devils fan our games against each other are no where as exciting as they used to be, this league is desperate for a strong panthers team, and that’s a fact. I haven’t posted this to be a stalker or whatever it’s a reality that a strong panthers team would be massive plus for everyone, especially you guys.
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Post by wgray on Nov 5, 2022 12:35:51 GMT
Balance! Balance! Balance! Most of us have been able to see it for axlong time already havn't we? To many clones. Get some grit and size and it allows Hammond to do his work more effectivly. The question is, can the coach and CEO not see what we can see. Fans that cant possibly know more than people that play/coach the game. Or is somebody not prepared to fund the changes that the coach and CEO know need to be made. This is why I find it so difficult to simply take aim at Coach or CEO, or even players to some extent. Without knowing for sure whats causing us not to make the required changes we cant with full confidence lay the blame at one persons door. Myers, Caruso, Hammond and Welsh for example could all be screaming that they need some size, that they need a grinder. The coach could be pulling his hair out begging Pacha for it and it's him saying no. They could all be begging Black and he's saying no chance. Most of us have worked in a team at times where you know you need something else or somebody else with a certain skill set to help you deliver your goals and how difficult it can be when that doesn't happen. I do recall a fairly early interview with GG where he talks about about being very loyal to his players and giving them every chance. Nothing wrong with that,admirable in fact,but there comes a point and we seem to be well past it now when loyalty has to go out the window and action needs taking to give those remaining players a kick up the backside. A dozen games into the league season now and even the most loyal and optimistic of fans would struggle to argue that this team could even finish top 3 never mind win the title. I think you’re right Iggy, GG is showing the players loyalty through hope that he can improve them and make them consistent but at what point do you say, this player isn’t doing what we need. We’re shipping far too many goals in and we’re not scoring enough goals. I think we all agree we’ve got some decent forwards, and we all thought we’d have no problem scoring goals, but the defence has a part to play in that as well.
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Post by iginla on Nov 5, 2022 13:07:37 GMT
I do recall a fairly early interview with GG where he talks about about being very loyal to his players and giving them every chance. Nothing wrong with that,admirable in fact,but there comes a point and we seem to be well past it now when loyalty has to go out the window and action needs taking to give those remaining players a kick up the backside. A dozen games into the league season now and even the most loyal and optimistic of fans would struggle to argue that this team could even finish top 3 never mind win the title. I think you’re right Iggy, GG is showing the players loyalty through hope that he can improve them and make them consistent but at what point do you say, this player isn’t doing what we need. We’re shipping far too many goals in and we’re not scoring enough goals. I think we all agree we’ve got some decent forwards, and we all thought we’d have no problem scoring goals, but the defence has a part to play in that as well. Exactly right. As Matt Myers said about a month ago “if you want to win the EIHL league title you can’t lose more than about 12 games” and he was spot on. Well they’ve only played 20% of the season so far and they’ve already lost 6 games so that should be telling them something. Best not hold our breath waiting for change though. 🙄
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 5, 2022 14:05:18 GMT
Balance! Balance! Balance! Most of us have been able to see it for axlong time already havn't we? To many clones. Get some grit and size and it allows Hammond to do his work more effectivly. The question is, can the coach and CEO not see what we can see. Fans that cant possibly know more than people that play/coach the game. Or is somebody not prepared to fund the changes that the coach and CEO know need to be made. This is why I find it so difficult to simply take aim at Coach or CEO, or even players to some extent. Without knowing for sure whats causing us not to make the required changes we cant with full confidence lay the blame at one persons door. Myers, Caruso, Hammond and Welsh for example could all be screaming that they need some size, that they need a grinder. The coach could be pulling his hair out begging Pacha for it and it's him saying no. They could all be begging Black and he's saying no chance. Most of us have worked in a team at times where you know you need something else or somebody else with a certain skill set to help you deliver your goals and how difficult it can be when that doesn't happen. I do recall a fairly early interview with GG where he talks about about being very loyal to his players and giving them every chance. Nothing wrong with that,admirable in fact,but there comes a point and we seem to be well past it now when loyalty has to go out the window and action needs taking to give those remaining players a kick up the backside. A dozen games into the league season now and even the most loyal and optimistic of fans would struggle to argue that this team could even finish top 3 never mind win the title. They better soon catch on to loyalty to the fanbase being important before gates start to crash after Christmas again.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 5, 2022 14:10:45 GMT
I do recall a fairly early interview with GG where he talks about about being very loyal to his players and giving them every chance. Nothing wrong with that,admirable in fact,but there comes a point and we seem to be well past it now when loyalty has to go out the window and action needs taking to give those remaining players a kick up the backside. A dozen games into the league season now and even the most loyal and optimistic of fans would struggle to argue that this team could even finish top 3 never mind win the title. I think you’re right Iggy, GG is showing the players loyalty through hope that he can improve them and make them consistent but at what point do you say, this player isn’t doing what we need. We’re shipping far too many goals in and we’re not scoring enough goals. I think we all agree we’ve got some decent forwards, and we all thought we’d have no problem scoring goals, but the defence has a part to play in that as well. If he is thinking that then he is less than clueless. We played very well last night but it was a far better Cardiff team. There is nothing you can do with our current squad to make them play any better unless the opposition is having a bad night.
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Post by jd on Nov 5, 2022 14:38:06 GMT
He ain't selling up anytime soon... True. The office ice stuff has been great. Lots of changes. And that’s been needed for a while and it’s good. But the on ice needs to change. Too many passengers and we need to make more changes than we would be allowed imo. The more I think about it, it’s a miracle we won the league in 2013
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Post by iginla on Nov 5, 2022 16:15:12 GMT
Being a Panthers fan must be so frustrating, having such a Lush home, good crowds nice City, but then being mediocre year after year must be a right bummer. Plus having that lot down the road rubbing it in has to be so irritating. From my point of view being a Devils fan our games against each other are no where as exciting as they used to be, this league is desperate for a strong panthers team, and that’s a fact. I haven’t posted this to be a stalker or whatever it’s a reality that a strong panthers team would be massive plus for everyone, especially you guys. Nice to see someone talk sense on here Feel free to join in the thread if you want. The Panthers fans moan because they also want a strong Panthers team but it just never seems to happen.
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