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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 30, 2022 19:16:06 GMT
Where did that come from???
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Post by jd on Oct 30, 2022 19:19:49 GMT
They do at the NIC don’t they. Wonder why? They have the same issue in Cardiff on occasion too. They won the league by 8 points in 2017, finishing 23 points clear of Panthers. They still conspired to lose 8-0 to us in Cardiff though. Just crazy! I never thought we’d win tonight but obviously delighted we have
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 30, 2022 19:25:44 GMT
Devils defensively woeful tonight. So static. Panthers just passing around them in to the spaces. So far it's one of those out of the blue performances. Funily enough they often come agaisnt Cardiff. They do at the NIC don’t they. Wonder why? I have no idea. For whatever reason we match up differently to them.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 30, 2022 19:26:32 GMT
Very good win. Credit to the team from top to bottom, including GG. Debeau was excellent.
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Post by Higgy on Oct 30, 2022 19:30:55 GMT
Excellent win, fully deserved, some nice plays, good defence and offence,Debeau was great and we played with intensity all night.
More please
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Post by EMB on Oct 30, 2022 19:37:48 GMT
Had a feeling we might win this, Devils don't have a brilliant record in our place, to say their team is huge in size we ran circles round them tonight. Very good win and much needed. Still think GG needs to go tho'
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 30, 2022 19:38:08 GMT
Where did that come from??? Wales... But don't worry it is Halloween.
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Post by DMS on Oct 30, 2022 19:43:47 GMT
For me that was a performance where we took advantage of a sloppy… actually a quite frankly poor Cardiff performance as opposed to us blowing them away.
However that’s not to say we weren’t food value for it, we haven’t done that yet this year so it was good to see.
This has got to be something to build on now, we can’t afford to take 2 steps back again after this one forward!
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 30, 2022 20:03:25 GMT
For me that was a performance where we took advantage of a sloppy… actually a quite frankly poor Cardiff performance as opposed to us blowing them away. However that’s not to say we weren’t food value for it, we haven’t done that yet this year so it was good to see. This has got to be something to build on now, we can’t afford to take 2 steps back again after this one forward! Well it'll be tough next time out as its Cardiff on the road. Wont be easy but we've proved we can compete with them. Then an actually important CC group game on Sunday. I believe it is now a winner takes all, well 8th QF spot. I'd be happy to see us just be in the game in Cardiff towards the end. The league is clearly by far more important but we find oursleves back in a situation where any trophy would be a great starting point.
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Post by iginla on Oct 30, 2022 20:15:16 GMT
Doubt we'll see much of Iggy tonight... Guess Panthers must have found themselves an assistant coach for tonight then ! 🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 20:35:10 GMT
Doubt we'll see much of Iggy tonight... Guess Panthers must have found themselves an assistant coach for tonight then ! 🤣🤣 No one has said having a assistant guarantees win they are just useful to have.. by all accounts Cardiff stunk the place out so it wasn't needed
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 30, 2022 20:36:12 GMT
Completely different team to last night and pretty much all season together with a terrible Cardiff performance was pretty much a perfect Halloween. No more excuses as they have shown they can do it when it suits them. Kick them up the backside and send them onto the ice.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Oct 30, 2022 21:05:45 GMT
Doubt we'll see much of Iggy tonight... Guess Panthers must have found themselves an assistant coach for tonight then ! 🤣🤣 What, like you wanted? Which is why he might need an assistant I agree he should have one. But to offer a different opinion or view,not to cover up any of GG’s possible shortcomings.
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Post by wgray on Oct 30, 2022 21:26:27 GMT
Really pleased with that performance tonight, a great victory. We were all over them at times, especially in the 2nd period where I thought we should have grabbed more than 2 goals. Cardiff seemed very flat and I do think them missing Brittain was good for us as he was effective in the previous game in Cardiff.
One big positive I took from the game is that we look to have found some rhythm in the powerplay, we’ve had a settled squad and as a result we’ve had settled units and it looked great, 2 PP opportunities and 2 goals. Pleased for the team and Graham, hopefully we can build on it and get something out of Cardiff
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Post by wannabe2 on Oct 30, 2022 21:38:41 GMT
Firstly congratulations to you guys, the outcome was never in doubt ,but in fairness this is the worse Devils team since our new owner group. We were being stuffed last night by Blaze but got out of jail. Be good to see you guys again Friday and the same outcome wouldn’t be a huge surprise. Good luck for the rest of the season.
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 30, 2022 22:07:28 GMT
Good performance tonight and I think gritty would be a good word to describe the performance which is some we definitely have lacked which in turn made us look a lot stable defensively. After we conceded at 2-1 I was expecting yet another collapse yet we responded with 2 good goals to seal the game. I don’t know the lines from yesterday but they have changed completely and looked better for it. Myers deserved his MOTM but I thought Puffer had a really good game which is something I’ve not been able to say before
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Oct 31, 2022 7:04:30 GMT
Papering over the cracks, or a 'line in the sand' result ?. Good players don't become bad players overnight and v.v. These are I think a bunch of good players and last night we saw a consistent team effort. Let's hope they've turned a corner. As for my prediction of a Ferrara goal ? Let's not get carried away !
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Post by float on Oct 31, 2022 8:30:31 GMT
Last night showed what we can do. It's the consistency that is our issue, particularly away from home. A similar result on Friday would be fantastic.
As for Ferrara, I feel for him, I don't think it't through a lack of trying for him. He's doing a lot of good stuff away from the goals, I do think it's now a case of 'when' not 'if' for his first goal, and hopefully it starts him off.
Good to see Anderson get a good goal last night and Levin continues to impress.
Myers for me was man of the match, shows there's no love lost between him and Cardiff!
Also though Dubeau was great and Caruso had a solid night on defence too.
Now please lads, let's get a bit of a run going.
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Post by bobness on Oct 31, 2022 9:47:51 GMT
Excellent result, but Cardiff were average at best. That said, you sill have to win them and win they did. Some very nice plays from the forwards, one Welychka chance in particular could have been goal of the season if scored, took the D apart with a stretch pass, a clever pass, and a huge deke. Would've been a crackerjack goal. Gloss slightly taken off it by conceding a non-event goal inside the last minute (due to Ferrara fiddling around instead of playing the percentages). Good teams play 60 minute hockey, that's a poor goal to concede, a lack of concentration.
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Post by bobness on Oct 31, 2022 9:52:45 GMT
PP was 3 for 22 before last night, now 5 for 24, and 30.8% (4 for 13) in the last 5 games. The PK would do with being higher than 73% though.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 1, 2022 16:00:03 GMT
Good performance tonight and I think gritty would be a good word to describe the performance which is some we definitely have lacked which in turn made us look a lot stable defensively. After we conceded at 2-1 I was expecting yet another collapse yet we responded with 2 good goals to seal the game. I don’t know the lines from yesterday but they have changed completely and looked better for it. Myers deserved his MOTM but I thought Puffer had a really good game which is something I’ve not been able to say before I'm with you on Puffer. I don't know what the stats for blocked shots were but I'm pretty sure he was responsible for at least 60% of them. He was throwing himself in front of everything. Never the sign of a coach who's lost the room when players are doing that kind of dirty work all night long. Hell of a game, a gritty, keep going, foot on the gas win (which I like to see) and a great night to introduce a newbie, who's now hooked. Myers deserved his MoM but Puffer certainly put his body on the line for the team and the Panthers. Kudos to him. And the fact Myers at his age is ahead of many of the imports we thought would produce goals shows he's leading the way as C. Hopefully, they'll click and follow. Still feels inevitably like a newer unit than some other teams but there's potential. Maybe needs a couple of tweaks and a spark plug player but has potential. Realised I hadn't spotted a couple of the players for much of the game but only my second in person game of the season so that's not too surprising. Myers and Welsh also felt like the only two players really driving directly to the net when they had puck possession, which I liked to see as it created rebound opportunities to follow up. It does feels like sometimes when we get into the offensive zone that first pass is always to the outside or the corner, even when we're not forced that way which frustrated me sometimes. They've clearly worked out some great plays utilising that (one of Brett goals) but it sometimes felt like the hard work had been done and then we went wide for no reason and suddenly we became easier to defend against. Brett was having a great game and Levin impressed again, though I wish he'd track back with more urgency to prevent the odd man break. Feel for Ferrara. Feels like it's only a matter of time before he starts scoring and he's doing the dirty work and what ever is asked of him in the mean time. My eye was drawn to him, like Puffer for his work rate. Couldn't believe it in the second period when he went in, dug the puck out in the corner and sent an inch perfect pass to the blue line for a one timer just to watch it sail down ice for an icing call because one of his teammates had given up on the play and skated off for a line change whilst we had puck possession and the other four were still focused. Caruso was solid and much needed. Moore feels a little raw at times. Brassard seems to want to quarterback the transition (as evidenced by his point production) which is great when he had the puck on the stick down the ice, but I think much of the criticism of him comes from this desire - as his first pass out of the defensive zone (rather than driving it down ice himself) is often either too easy to read or telegraphed, so they get pounced on and we're suddenly on the back foot in our own zone. Dubs was immense when called on but disappointing that the team allowed a lapse of focus to let a goal in with 10 seconds to go. In a different game that can cost valuable points. All on all a great game, even if the first period in particular was very much seat of the pants run and gun stuff end to end. But what I liked was I saw the potential. A few more tape to tape passes (which came more to the fore later in the game) and it could have been 8 or 9. The match night atmosphere and use of the jumbotron is night and day with the past; though I'm missing the retired numbers, even though they're probably only hidden by the memorial banner for the short term. Everything feels slicker (in the right way), more professional and way, way more fan focussed. The team had potential, though missing that big hit thrower that rattles opponents of their game. I didn't expect to win that game and was nervous at 2-1 but they stepped it up when they had too, and I think that was often down to the unsung dirty work doing of blocking shots, breaking up plays: the stuff that doesn't win you plaudits or show up on the scoring charts but can turn games. And they didn't settle or defend their lead which I liked to see as that's dangerous in this league. Yes, we could only play the team in front of us but we did that well. So a pleasing showing
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Post by pantherlee on Nov 1, 2022 16:42:21 GMT
Good performance tonight and I think gritty would be a good word to describe the performance which is some we definitely have lacked which in turn made us look a lot stable defensively. After we conceded at 2-1 I was expecting yet another collapse yet we responded with 2 good goals to seal the game. I don’t know the lines from yesterday but they have changed completely and looked better for it. Myers deserved his MOTM but I thought Puffer had a really good game which is something I’ve not been able to say before I'm with you on Puffer. I don't know what the stats for blocked shots were but I'm pretty sure he was responsible for at least 60% of them. He was throwing himself in front of everything. Never the sign of a coach who's lost the room when players are doing that kind of dirty work all night long. Hell of a game, a gritty, keep going, for on the gas win (which I like to see) and a great night to introduce a newbie, who's now hooked. Myers deserved his MoM but Puffer certainly put his body on the line for the team and the Panthers. Kudos to him. And the fact Myers at his age is ahead of many of the imports we thought would produce goals shows he's leading the way as C. Hopefully, they'll click and follow. Still feels inevitably like a newer unit than some other teams but there's potential. Maybe needs a couple of tweaks and a spark plug player but has potential. Realised I hadn't spotted a couple of the players for much of the game but only my second in person game of the season so that's not too surprising. Myers and Welsh also felt like the only two players really driving directly to the net when they had puck possession, which I liked to see as it created rebound opportunities to follow up. It does feels like sometimes when we get into the offensive zone that first pass is always to the outside or the corner, even when we're not forced that way which frustrated me sometimes. They've clearly worked out some great plays utilising that (one of Brett goals) but it sometimes felt like the hard work had been done and then we went wide for no reason and suddenly we became easier to defend against. Brett was having a great game and Levin impressed again, though I wish he'd track back with more urgency to prevent the odd man break. Feel for Ferrara. Feels like it's only a matter of time before he starts scoring and he's doing the dirty work and what ever is asked of him in the mean time. My eye was drawn to him, like Puffer for his work rate. Couldn't believe it in the second period when he went in, dug the puck out in the corner and sent an inch perfect pass to the blue line for a one timer just to watch it sail down ice for an icing call because one of his teammates had given up on the play and skated off for a line change whilst we had puck possession and the other four were still focused. Caruso was solid and much needed. Moore feels a little raw at times. Brassard seems to want to quarterback the transition (as evidenced by his point production) which is great when he had the puck on the stick down the ice, but I think much of the criticism of him comes from this desire - as his first pass out of the defensive zone (rather than driving it down ice himself) is often either too easy to read or telegraphed, so they get pounced on and we're suddenly on the back foot in our own zone. Dubs was immense when called on but disappointing that the team allowed a lapse of focus to let a goal in with 10 seconds to go. In a different game that can cost valuable points. All on all a great game, even if the first period in particular was very much seat of the pants run and gun stuff end to end. But what I liked was I saw the potential. A few more tape to tape passes (which came more to the fore later in the game) and it could have been 8 or 9. The match night atmosphere and use of the jumbotron is night and day with the past; though I'm missing the retired numbers, even though they're probably only hidden by the memorial banner for the short term. Everything feels slicker (in the right way), more professional and way, way more fan focussed. The team had potential, though missing that big hit thrower that rattles opponents of their game. I didn't expect to win that game and was nervous at 2-1 but they stepped it up when they had too, and I think that was often down to the unsung dirty work doing of blocking shots, breaking up plays: the stuff that doesn't win you plaudits or show up on the scoring charts but can turn games. And they didn't settle or defend their lead which I liked to see as that's dangerous in this league. Yes, we could only play the team in front of us but we did that well. So a pleasing showing Regarding the retired numbers I think I remember either Chris Ellis or maybe Pacha himself when asked about this that there was something in the pipeline and to watch this space. It was a little while back now and I may be misremembering
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 1, 2022 16:52:02 GMT
I'm with you on Puffer. I don't know what the stats for blocked shots were but I'm pretty sure he was responsible for at least 60% of them. He was throwing himself in front of everything. Never the sign of a coach who's lost the room when players are doing that kind of dirty work all night long. Hell of a game, a gritty, keep going, for on the gas win (which I like to see) and a great night to introduce a newbie, who's now hooked. Myers deserved his MoM but Puffer certainly put his body on the line for the team and the Panthers. Kudos to him. And the fact Myers at his age is ahead of many of the imports we thought would produce goals shows he's leading the way as C. Hopefully, they'll click and follow. Still feels inevitably like a newer unit than some other teams but there's potential. Maybe needs a couple of tweaks and a spark plug player but has potential. Realised I hadn't spotted a couple of the players for much of the game but only my second in person game of the season so that's not too surprising. Myers and Welsh also felt like the only two players really driving directly to the net when they had puck possession, which I liked to see as it created rebound opportunities to follow up. It does feels like sometimes when we get into the offensive zone that first pass is always to the outside or the corner, even when we're not forced that way which frustrated me sometimes. They've clearly worked out some great plays utilising that (one of Brett goals) but it sometimes felt like the hard work had been done and then we went wide for no reason and suddenly we became easier to defend against. Brett was having a great game and Levin impressed again, though I wish he'd track back with more urgency to prevent the odd man break. Feel for Ferrara. Feels like it's only a matter of time before he starts scoring and he's doing the dirty work and what ever is asked of him in the mean time. My eye was drawn to him, like Puffer for his work rate. Couldn't believe it in the second period when he went in, dug the puck out in the corner and sent an inch perfect pass to the blue line for a one timer just to watch it sail down ice for an icing call because one of his teammates had given up on the play and skated off for a line change whilst we had puck possession and the other four were still focused. Caruso was solid and much needed. Moore feels a little raw at times. Brassard seems to want to quarterback the transition (as evidenced by his point production) which is great when he had the puck on the stick down the ice, but I think much of the criticism of him comes from this desire - as his first pass out of the defensive zone (rather than driving it down ice himself) is often either too easy to read or telegraphed, so they get pounced on and we're suddenly on the back foot in our own zone. Dubs was immense when called on but disappointing that the team allowed a lapse of focus to let a goal in with 10 seconds to go. In a different game that can cost valuable points. All on all a great game, even if the first period in particular was very much seat of the pants run and gun stuff end to end. But what I liked was I saw the potential. A few more tape to tape passes (which came more to the fore later in the game) and it could have been 8 or 9. The match night atmosphere and use of the jumbotron is night and day with the past; though I'm missing the retired numbers, even though they're probably only hidden by the memorial banner for the short term. Everything feels slicker (in the right way), more professional and way, way more fan focussed. The team had potential, though missing that big hit thrower that rattles opponents of their game. I didn't expect to win that game and was nervous at 2-1 but they stepped it up when they had too, and I think that was often down to the unsung dirty work doing of blocking shots, breaking up plays: the stuff that doesn't win you plaudits or show up on the scoring charts but can turn games. And they didn't settle or defend their lead which I liked to see as that's dangerous in this league. Yes, we could only play the team in front of us but we did that well. So a pleasing showing Regarding the retired numbers I think I remember either Chris Ellis or maybe Pacha himself when asked about this that there was something in the pipeline and to watch this space. It was a little while back now and I may be misremembering Thanks for that. That's great to hear. I must have missed that somehow so much appreciated
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 1, 2022 16:53:21 GMT
I'm with you on Puffer. I don't know what the stats for blocked shots were but I'm pretty sure he was responsible for at least 60% of them. He was throwing himself in front of everything. Never the sign of a coach who's lost the room when players are doing that kind of dirty work all night long. Hell of a game, a gritty, keep going, for on the gas win (which I like to see) and a great night to introduce a newbie, who's now hooked. Myers deserved his MoM but Puffer certainly put his body on the line for the team and the Panthers. Kudos to him. And the fact Myers at his age is ahead of many of the imports we thought would produce goals shows he's leading the way as C. Hopefully, they'll click and follow. Still feels inevitably like a newer unit than some other teams but there's potential. Maybe needs a couple of tweaks and a spark plug player but has potential. Realised I hadn't spotted a couple of the players for much of the game but only my second in person game of the season so that's not too surprising. Myers and Welsh also felt like the only two players really driving directly to the net when they had puck possession, which I liked to see as it created rebound opportunities to follow up. It does feels like sometimes when we get into the offensive zone that first pass is always to the outside or the corner, even when we're not forced that way which frustrated me sometimes. They've clearly worked out some great plays utilising that (one of Brett goals) but it sometimes felt like the hard work had been done and then we went wide for no reason and suddenly we became easier to defend against. Brett was having a great game and Levin impressed again, though I wish he'd track back with more urgency to prevent the odd man break. Feel for Ferrara. Feels like it's only a matter of time before he starts scoring and he's doing the dirty work and what ever is asked of him in the mean time. My eye was drawn to him, like Puffer for his work rate. Couldn't believe it in the second period when he went in, dug the puck out in the corner and sent an inch perfect pass to the blue line for a one timer just to watch it sail down ice for an icing call because one of his teammates had given up on the play and skated off for a line change whilst we had puck possession and the other four were still focused. Caruso was solid and much needed. Moore feels a little raw at times. Brassard seems to want to quarterback the transition (as evidenced by his point production) which is great when he had the puck on the stick down the ice, but I think much of the criticism of him comes from this desire - as his first pass out of the defensive zone (rather than driving it down ice himself) is often either too easy to read or telegraphed, so they get pounced on and we're suddenly on the back foot in our own zone. Dubs was immense when called on but disappointing that the team allowed a lapse of focus to let a goal in with 10 seconds to go. In a different game that can cost valuable points. All on all a great game, even if the first period in particular was very much seat of the pants run and gun stuff end to end. But what I liked was I saw the potential. A few more tape to tape passes (which came more to the fore later in the game) and it could have been 8 or 9. The match night atmosphere and use of the jumbotron is night and day with the past; though I'm missing the retired numbers, even though they're probably only hidden by the memorial banner for the short term. Everything feels slicker (in the right way), more professional and way, way more fan focussed. The team had potential, though missing that big hit thrower that rattles opponents of their game. I didn't expect to win that game and was nervous at 2-1 but they stepped it up when they had too, and I think that was often down to the unsung dirty work doing of blocking shots, breaking up plays: the stuff that doesn't win you plaudits or show up on the scoring charts but can turn games. And they didn't settle or defend their lead which I liked to see as that's dangerous in this league. Yes, we could only play the team in front of us but we did that well. So a pleasing showing Regarding the retired numbers I think I remember either Chris Ellis or maybe Pacha himself when asked about this that there was something in the pipeline and to watch this space. It was a little while back now and I may be misremembering Was nice to see the block 18-19 banners as well
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Post by wgray on Nov 1, 2022 17:23:58 GMT
I'm with you on Puffer. I don't know what the stats for blocked shots were but I'm pretty sure he was responsible for at least 60% of them. He was throwing himself in front of everything. Never the sign of a coach who's lost the room when players are doing that kind of dirty work all night long. Hell of a game, a gritty, keep going, for on the gas win (which I like to see) and a great night to introduce a newbie, who's now hooked. Myers deserved his MoM but Puffer certainly put his body on the line for the team and the Panthers. Kudos to him. And the fact Myers at his age is ahead of many of the imports we thought would produce goals shows he's leading the way as C. Hopefully, they'll click and follow. Still feels inevitably like a newer unit than some other teams but there's potential. Maybe needs a couple of tweaks and a spark plug player but has potential. Realised I hadn't spotted a couple of the players for much of the game but only my second in person game of the season so that's not too surprising. Myers and Welsh also felt like the only two players really driving directly to the net when they had puck possession, which I liked to see as it created rebound opportunities to follow up. It does feels like sometimes when we get into the offensive zone that first pass is always to the outside or the corner, even when we're not forced that way which frustrated me sometimes. They've clearly worked out some great plays utilising that (one of Brett goals) but it sometimes felt like the hard work had been done and then we went wide for no reason and suddenly we became easier to defend against. Brett was having a great game and Levin impressed again, though I wish he'd track back with more urgency to prevent the odd man break. Feel for Ferrara. Feels like it's only a matter of time before he starts scoring and he's doing the dirty work and what ever is asked of him in the mean time. My eye was drawn to him, like Puffer for his work rate. Couldn't believe it in the second period when he went in, dug the puck out in the corner and sent an inch perfect pass to the blue line for a one timer just to watch it sail down ice for an icing call because one of his teammates had given up on the play and skated off for a line change whilst we had puck possession and the other four were still focused. Caruso was solid and much needed. Moore feels a little raw at times. Brassard seems to want to quarterback the transition (as evidenced by his point production) which is great when he had the puck on the stick down the ice, but I think much of the criticism of him comes from this desire - as his first pass out of the defensive zone (rather than driving it down ice himself) is often either too easy to read or telegraphed, so they get pounced on and we're suddenly on the back foot in our own zone. Dubs was immense when called on but disappointing that the team allowed a lapse of focus to let a goal in with 10 seconds to go. In a different game that can cost valuable points. All on all a great game, even if the first period in particular was very much seat of the pants run and gun stuff end to end. But what I liked was I saw the potential. A few more tape to tape passes (which came more to the fore later in the game) and it could have been 8 or 9. The match night atmosphere and use of the jumbotron is night and day with the past; though I'm missing the retired numbers, even though they're probably only hidden by the memorial banner for the short term. Everything feels slicker (in the right way), more professional and way, way more fan focussed. The team had potential, though missing that big hit thrower that rattles opponents of their game. I didn't expect to win that game and was nervous at 2-1 but they stepped it up when they had too, and I think that was often down to the unsung dirty work doing of blocking shots, breaking up plays: the stuff that doesn't win you plaudits or show up on the scoring charts but can turn games. And they didn't settle or defend their lead which I liked to see as that's dangerous in this league. Yes, we could only play the team in front of us but we did that well. So a pleasing showing Regarding the retired numbers I think I remember either Chris Ellis or maybe Pacha himself when asked about this that there was something in the pipeline and to watch this space. It was a little while back now and I may be misremembering I think it was Chris Ellis who said there was something in the works in a pre or post game podcast. I’d absolutely love it if we had individual banners in the rafters to commemorate the numbers of our retired players and all the trophies we’ve won. It’s not difficult to implement a few lightweight frameworks that could be raised out of the way for gigs and other events.
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