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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 17:59:58 GMT
The thought had occurred to me lol Think about it. I’m asking the question YOU should be asking,you’re one of the people saying we deffo need an assistant coach. I'm sure of what I want but you keep changing your mind hence the reaction lol
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Post by iginla on Oct 31, 2022 18:22:38 GMT
Think about it. I’m asking the question YOU should be asking,you’re one of the people saying we deffo need an assistant coach. I'm sure of what I want but you keep changing your mind hence the reaction lol I’m not changing my mind,I would only have an assistant if it did not affect player budget. If having an assistant meant less money to spend on players then it is not worth the money. Trust that is clear enough for you.
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Post by jd on Oct 31, 2022 21:17:22 GMT
Think about it. I’m asking the question YOU should be asking,you’re one of the people saying we deffo need an assistant coach. I'm sure of what I want but you keep changing your mind hence the reaction lol Haha - he’s a Tory really, loves a u turn does Iggy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 22:02:24 GMT
I'm sure of what I want but you keep changing your mind hence the reaction lol Haha - he’s a Tory really, loves a u turn does Iggy. Definitely is a Tory yup 🤣
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Post by iginla on Oct 31, 2022 22:15:15 GMT
Haha - he’s a Tory really, loves a u turn does Iggy. Definitely is a Tory yup 🤣 Most definitely a Tory yes, can’t be doing with common gobby labour people who love to criticise but have no actual answers themselves. And if anybody on here was defined as a Tory because of the amount of U turns they did you’d be chairman of the party old boy !
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Post by bobness on Nov 1, 2022 7:41:08 GMT
Don’t worry, his turn at PM is scheduled to be this side of Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 8:09:24 GMT
Definitely is a Tory yup 🤣 Most definitely a Tory yes, can’t be doing with common gobby labour people who love to criticise but have no actual answers themselves. And if anybody on here was defined as a Tory because of the amount of U turns they did you’d be chairman of the party old boy ! Good job I ain't a labour voter either then hey.. you've had a mare again Iggy 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 8:11:07 GMT
I'm sure of what I want but you keep changing your mind hence the reaction lol I’m not changing my mind,I would only have an assistant if it did not affect player budget. If having an assistant meant less money to spend on players then it is not worth the money. Trust that is clear enough for you. About as clear as mud Iggy .. one thinks you are trying to backtrack 🤣
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 9:30:12 GMT
So they aren't needed as any decent coach wouldn't need one. But if they don't affect the budget he'd have one, even though they aren't needed or listened too by the head coach.
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2022 9:56:25 GMT
So they aren't needed as any decent coach wouldn't need one. But if they don't affect the budget he'd have one, even though they aren't needed or listened too by the head coach. Just like a “luxury item” JD, you know something that is nice to have if you can afford it and if you want to waste some spare money but not vital, important or really necessary. Like buying yourself a new Panthers shirt when you’ve already got six hanging up in the wardrobe !
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 10:49:29 GMT
So they aren't needed as any decent coach wouldn't need one. But if they don't affect the budget he'd have one, even though they aren't needed or listened too by the head coach. Just like a “luxury item” JD, you know something that is nice to have if you can afford it and if you want to waste some spare money but not vital, important or really necessary. Like buying yourself a new Panthers shirt when you’ve already got six hanging up in the wardrobe ! Gold again
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 10:50:03 GMT
Most definitely a Tory yes, can’t be doing with common gobby labour people who love to criticise but have no actual answers themselves. And if anybody on here was defined as a Tory because of the amount of U turns they did you’d be chairman of the party old boy ! Good job I ain't a labour voter either then hey.. you've had a mare again Iggy 🤣 At least he's consistent
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 11:11:54 GMT
Just like a “luxury item” JD, you know something that is nice to have if you can afford it and if you want to waste some spare money but not vital, important or really necessary. Like buying yourself a new Panthers shirt when you’ve already got six hanging up in the wardrobe ! Gold again I'm struggling to understand Iggy's logic regarding this .. he says AC ain't required in a little league like this but other leagues around Europe even on a par with the eihl I think he'll find have assistants behind the bench. I wonder if they see them as luxuries and not really needed?
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 11:26:10 GMT
I'm struggling to understand Iggy's logic regarding this .. he says AC ain't required in a little league like this but other leagues around Europe even on a par with the eihl I think he'll find have assistants behind the bench. I wonder if they see them as luxuries and not really needed? Same 1. Not needed 2. Nice luxury 3. Coach shouldn't need one 4. Would have one if budget isn't affected
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2022 11:58:50 GMT
I'm struggling to understand Iggy's logic regarding this .. he says AC ain't required in a little league like this but other leagues around Europe even on a par with the eihl I think he'll find have assistants behind the bench. I wonder if they see them as luxuries and not really needed? Same 1. Not needed 2. Nice luxury 3. Coach shouldn't need one 4. Would have one if budget isn't affected Like I say why not have one if you want one, like the extra Panthers shirt waste money on one if you want it but you wouldn’t if it meant spending less on something else that was more vital. I don’t see why you keep thinking I want an assistant coach,I don’t think it does any harm to have one but I wouldn’t waste fixed budget money on one. I think the fact that Panthers and Clan are the only two EIHL teams without one speaks volumes and tells you that it’s because Black either won’t fund one or if GG wanted one it meant he had to take the cost from the on ice budget and therefore had less to spend on players. I know which I’d rather have and i wouldn’t be spending it on an assistant coach I didn’t really need.
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 12:35:01 GMT
You don't think it does any harm to have one and then you say don't get one cos you don't need them.
Can see why panthers don't reply to you Iggy
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2022 12:38:20 GMT
You don't think it does any harm to have one and then you say don't get one cos you don't need them. Can see why panthers don't reply to you Iggy Let me ask you a question... Would you have an assistant coach if it meant you had less money to spend on better quality players ?
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 12:49:26 GMT
You don't think it does any harm to have one and then you say don't get one cos you don't need them. Can see why panthers don't reply to you Iggy Let me ask you a question... Would you have an assistant coach if it meant you had less money to spend on better quality players ? Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast seem to manage ok with having one and have some good players, certainly better than us. I think a coach on his own isn't good, you need a different voice, opinion and the players too would like that. Too much for one person to do alone imo CN and RS were a good team (I know you wont agree cos you hate CN) and I know RS helped more than you think he did.
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2022 13:03:18 GMT
Let me ask you a question... Would you have an assistant coach if it meant you had less money to spend on better quality players ? Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast seem to manage ok with having one and have some good players, certainly better than us. I think a coach on his own isn't good, you need a different voice, opinion and the players too would like that. Too much for one person to do alone imo CN and RS were a good team (I know you wont agree cos you hate CN) and I know RS helped more than you think he did. That’s not what I asked is it, Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast probably don’t have to lose on ice budget to pay for their assistant coach. So would you have an assistant coach if it meant less to spend on players ?
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 13:11:52 GMT
Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast seem to manage ok with having one and have some good players, certainly better than us. I think a coach on his own isn't good, you need a different voice, opinion and the players too would like that. Too much for one person to do alone imo CN and RS were a good team (I know you wont agree cos you hate CN) and I know RS helped more than you think he did. That’s not what I asked is it, Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast probably don’t have to lose on ice budget to pay for their assistant coach. So would you have an assistant coach if it meant less to spend on players ? How do you know Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast don’t lose on ice budget? How do you know we would? Or wouldn’t? You simply don’t know 100% for sure. As I said in my previous post, it’s too much for one person.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 13:11:54 GMT
Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast seem to manage ok with having one and have some good players, certainly better than us. I think a coach on his own isn't good, you need a different voice, opinion and the players too would like that. Too much for one person to do alone imo CN and RS were a good team (I know you wont agree cos you hate CN) and I know RS helped more than you think he did. That’s not what I asked is it, Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast probably don’t have to lose on ice budget to pay for their assistant coach. So would you have an assistant coach if it meant less to spend on players ? Pretty sure the budget never included non playing staff!
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Post by jd on Nov 1, 2022 13:12:35 GMT
That’s not what I asked is it, Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast probably don’t have to lose on ice budget to pay for their assistant coach. So would you have an assistant coach if it meant less to spend on players ? Pretty sure the budget never included non playing staff! Careful Pidge, you might force iginla into another u turn in a mo.
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2022 13:43:09 GMT
That’s not what I asked is it, Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast probably don’t have to lose on ice budget to pay for their assistant coach. So would you have an assistant coach if it meant less to spend on players ? How do you know Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast don’t lose on ice budget? How do you know we would? Or wouldn’t? You simply don’t know 100% for sure. As I said in my previous post, it’s too much for one person. We don’t but one way or the other it sure looks like either Black won’t stand alone fund an assistant or purely coincidentally both GG and Cameron didn’t want one. Now back to the question... Would you have an assistant if it meant you didn’t have as much to spend on players ?
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2022 13:46:23 GMT
That’s not what I asked is it, Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast probably don’t have to lose on ice budget to pay for their assistant coach. So would you have an assistant coach if it meant less to spend on players ? Pretty sure the budget never included non playing staff! We don’t know if it does or not, but it’s been a point suggested many times over the years by various parties.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 1, 2022 15:11:01 GMT
Cardiff, Sheffield and Belfast seem to manage ok with having one and have some good players, certainly better than us. I think a coach on his own isn't good, you need a different voice, opinion and the players too would like that. Too much for one person to do alone imo CN and RS were a good team (I know you wont agree cos you hate CN) and I know RS helped more than you think he did. That’s not what I asked is it, Cardiff,Sheffield and Belfast probably don’t have to lose on ice budget to pay for their assistant coach. So would you have an assistant coach if it meant less to spend on players ? You've literally just said other teams "probably" don't lose on ice budget to pay for assistant coaches - admitting no knowledge. Now you're asking people would have one if you had to? (Thereby implying knowledge that that's the case for Panthers) Why would you argue any other team had to when you've just said others didn't? - whilst also admitting you don't know if they do? That's asking a question that's heading into Donald Rumsfeld unknown unknowns territory: "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." Could this be why it feels you're asking a hypothetical question whose sole function seems to be to try and drive a narrative (by asking about unknown unknowns) that Panthers must be doing something different to other teams. Surely that raised the issue of what is the aim of the question therefore? What is it you're trying to imply by asking the question... Which is like when Boris Johnson said he'd defend statues of Churchill 'to the death' knowing the reaction he'd get, even though literally nobody had suggested removing them. The reaction to his implication was the aim not the reality And I think a lot of people seem to be recognising it Iggy And, besides, are you really sure it's simply not because we're wasting money in other areas? Because that was your last main argument (also without evidence) for why we don't have an assistant: Yeah, 2 assistant coaches. And a player/assistant coach in Beskorowany. They've just thrashed us by 5, again, so maybe they're doing things the right way? Sheffield and Cardiff both have a full time assistant coach. Why don't we? Because Panthers waste money totally in the wrong areas, and employ numpties. Look at Belfast’s coaching team and GM,they’re all hockey men ! So now that ours are all Hockey men you seem to have switched again (not for the first time) to suggesting that instead of it being wasting money in other areas we now don't have an assistant because it would come out of the playing budget (also without evidence). I suspect this must be what it feels like to face a netminder who kicks the net off its moorings any time a puck comes close
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