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Post by iginla on Sept 29, 2022 18:56:18 GMT
Really,I don’t think so. There have been whinges about exactly that before and you know what Wag’s can be like ! I can remember a couple of players kicking off because John Craighead was in NB’s apartment in Crusader House complete with its own swimming pool and gym. Must have been his 2nd year because in his first year his digs were up in Sherwood. It was his second year. First year he was in a house just off Carlton Hill on the left heading out of town. It wasn’t overly salubrious.
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Post by bobness on Sept 29, 2022 19:00:39 GMT
Seriously? That's a stretch, even from you. So who is in a £2500 a month place? 4 players. Allegedly.
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Post by jd on Sept 29, 2022 19:14:17 GMT
So who is in a £2500 a month place? 4 players. Allegedly. And is the source good?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 20:16:49 GMT
Must have been his 2nd year because in his first year his digs were up in Sherwood. It was his second year. First year he was in a house just off Carlton Hill on the left heading out of town. It wasn’t overly salubrious. I know he had a after awards wee wee up there lol
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Post by sevcik on Sept 30, 2022 8:52:20 GMT
Putting it short and sweet - Yes he is
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 9, 2022 23:51:20 GMT
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Post by iginla on Nov 10, 2022 0:03:46 GMT
Yes nice to see them reading the cage again, at least we know it works after asking where he’d disappeared to. 😉😊
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 0:14:26 GMT
I'm interested about how these banners will look, will it be like a proper club and have them actually hang from the rafters or just printed on some cheap banner at the stage!
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Post by iginla on Nov 10, 2022 0:21:32 GMT
I'm interested about how these banners will look, will it be like a proper club and have them actually hang from the rafters or just printed on some cheap banner at the stage! You would hope proper individual banners. But we were always told we weren’t allowed to hang banners from the roof weren’t we so I don’t know how they’re going to hang them. Lol 😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 11:06:46 GMT
I'm interested about how these banners will look, will it be like a proper club and have them actually hang from the rafters or just printed on some cheap banner at the stage! You would hope proper individual banners. But we were always told we weren’t allowed to hang banners from the roof weren’t we so I don’t know how they’re going to hang them. Lol 😂 We were told alot of things over the years yet most of it was utter nonsense! Best one was we couldn't have a jumbotron because the roof couldn't take the weight!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 10, 2022 11:21:53 GMT
You would hope proper individual banners. But we were always told we weren’t allowed to hang banners from the roof weren’t we so I don’t know how they’re going to hang them. Lol 😂 We were told alot of things over the years yet most of it was utter nonsense! Best one was we couldn't have a jumbotron because the roof couldn't take the weight! 😂😂😂
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Post by iginla on Nov 10, 2022 12:13:48 GMT
You would hope proper individual banners. But we were always told we weren’t allowed to hang banners from the roof weren’t we so I don’t know how they’re going to hang them. Lol 😂 We were told alot of things over the years yet most of it was utter nonsense! Best one was we couldn't have a jumbotron because the roof couldn't take the weight! And musical instruments were banned too and then suddenly they were allowed. 🤣 Although they did prove rather a damp squib.
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 10, 2022 15:25:43 GMT
We were told alot of things over the years yet most of it was utter nonsense! Best one was we couldn't have a jumbotron because the roof couldn't take the weight! And musical instruments were banned too and then suddenly they were allowed. 🤣 Although they did prove rather a damp squib. The drums are still here. Or went and came back again. Anyway, 1 or 2 of them in block 19 every game.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 10, 2022 19:36:02 GMT
And musical instruments were banned too and then suddenly they were allowed. 🤣 Although they did prove rather a damp squib. The drums are still here. Or went and came back again. Anyway, 1 or 2 of them in block 19 every game. I wish they could get the video and sound in synch as the sound is always a second or two behind.
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Post by iginla on Nov 10, 2022 20:21:01 GMT
The drums are still here. Or went and came back again. Anyway, 1 or 2 of them in block 19 every game. I wish they could get the video and sound in synch as the sound is always a second or two behind. Like watching the forward lines. 🤣
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Post by mrbear86 on Nov 11, 2022 9:56:00 GMT
Putting it short and sweet - Yes he is No, the source is bad. There is zero truth to this. None of the players spent a single night in an Airbnb, let alone 4 sharing. A few players spent a handful of nights in Jury's Inn whilst waiting for their accommodation to be ready. Source: I work for the club and worked with Dan Green to find the players' accommodation and move them into their homes.
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Post by mrbear86 on Nov 11, 2022 10:31:20 GMT
Perhaps they are using an AirBnB while they are sorting out something more permanent? AirBnB does seem odd (if true). Like they didn’t have months over the summer to find some accommodation. 🙄 Whilst I've stated elsewhere that there is no truth to this rumour of using Airbnb accommodation (although one or two of the properties have been Airbnbs in the past), I wanted to address this point because everyone seems to think this job should be a piece of cake - it is not. Rental prices are higher than ever and demand for properties is extremely high. Finding suitable accommodation that meets our requirements of price, quality, location, availability dates etc. for 15/16 guys in a fairly short window is extremely hard work. And, unfortunately, having the whole summer isn't a huge help - the reason being that if we approach landlords/letting agents in say June (which we did) and say "yes, we'd love to rent your property ... starting in August when the players arrive." they obviously, for the most part, want their property occupied and earning them money sooner than that and turn us down in favour of someone who is ready to move. On the flip side, towards the end of the summer when we need to find those last couple of properties in early August, a large proportion of the property being advertised is still occupied by current tenants who have given notice but won't have vacated until late August or early September. So there really is a "goldilocks" period for finding properties and we have to hope that enough of the right ones are available during that time. The job is further complicated by not necessarily knowing exactly who has signed at that point and what their needs are (e.g. wife? girlfriend? kids? uni place? sharing/not sharing?). Compound this with a need for mostly furnished homes on relatively short-term contracts and your pool of suitable properties shrinks rapidly. So there you have it. I hope that paints a picture of what goes into housing a hockey team.
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Post by iginla on Nov 11, 2022 15:19:29 GMT
Like they didn’t have months over the summer to find some accommodation. 🙄 Whilst I've stated elsewhere that there is no truth to this rumour of using Airbnb accommodation (although one or two of the properties have been Airbnbs in the past), I wanted to address this point because everyone seems to think this job should be a piece of cake - it is not. Rental prices are higher than ever and demand for properties is extremely high. Finding suitable accommodation that meets our requirements of price, quality, location, availability dates etc. for 15/16 guys in a fairly short window is extremely hard work. And, unfortunately, having the whole summer isn't a huge help - the reason being that if we approach landlords/letting agents in say June (which we did) and say "yes, we'd love to rent your property ... starting in August when the players arrive." they obviously, for the most part, want their property occupied and earning them money sooner than that and turn us down in favour of someone who is ready to move. On the flip side, towards the end of the summer when we need to find those last couple of properties in early August, a large proportion of the property being advertised is still occupied by current tenants who have given notice but won't have vacated until late August or early September. So there really is a "goldilocks" period for finding properties and we have to hope that enough of the right ones are available during that time. The job is further complicated by not necessarily knowing exactly who has signed at that point and what their needs are (e.g. wife? girlfriend? kids? uni place? sharing/not sharing?). Compound this with a need for mostly furnished homes on relatively short-term contracts and your pool of suitable properties shrinks rapidly. So there you have it. I hope that paints a picture of what goes into housing a hockey team. If you are prepared to pay the going rate and have a good reputation of course the job would be much easier. Market price is market price you have to pay and reputations have to be earned. The club know full well a long way in advance they are going to have to house X number of imports and between what dates,therefore it really shouldn’t be that hard. The only difficult part is whether the imports are single or married etc but it’s always going to be a mix of both therefore sort the accommodation to suit with some of each and if you end up with a single guy in a two bed apartment and it costs a bit more than it should then so be it. Just have an extra shirt raffle or two !
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 11, 2022 16:04:28 GMT
Whilst I've stated elsewhere that there is no truth to this rumour of using Airbnb accommodation (although one or two of the properties have been Airbnbs in the past), I wanted to address this point because everyone seems to think this job should be a piece of cake - it is not. Rental prices are higher than ever and demand for properties is extremely high. Finding suitable accommodation that meets our requirements of price, quality, location, availability dates etc. for 15/16 guys in a fairly short window is extremely hard work. And, unfortunately, having the whole summer isn't a huge help - the reason being that if we approach landlords/letting agents in say June (which we did) and say "yes, we'd love to rent your property ... starting in August when the players arrive." they obviously, for the most part, want their property occupied and earning them money sooner than that and turn us down in favour of someone who is ready to move. On the flip side, towards the end of the summer when we need to find those last couple of properties in early August, a large proportion of the property being advertised is still occupied by current tenants who have given notice but won't have vacated until late August or early September. So there really is a "goldilocks" period for finding properties and we have to hope that enough of the right ones are available during that time. The job is further complicated by not necessarily knowing exactly who has signed at that point and what their needs are (e.g. wife? girlfriend? kids? uni place? sharing/not sharing?). Compound this with a need for mostly furnished homes on relatively short-term contracts and your pool of suitable properties shrinks rapidly. So there you have it. I hope that paints a picture of what goes into housing a hockey team. If you are prepared to pay the going rate and have a good reputation of course the job would be much easier. Market price is market price you have to pay and reputations have to be earned. The club know full well a long way in advance they are going to have to house X number of imports and between what dates,therefore it really shouldn’t be that hard. The only difficult part is whether the imports are single or married etc but it’s always going to be a mix of both therefore sort the accommodation to suit with some of each and if you end up with a single guy in a two bed apartment and it costs a bit more than it should then so be it. Just have an extra shirt raffle or two ! A very selective reading of a detailed post, and once again Iggy making assumptions based on facts neither known or demonstrable. And did you really just say the team should spend money it doesn't need to on accomodation? This from the guy who said we don't have an assistant coach because the team wastes money in other areas. Which is it? Don't be wasteful and be a well run team? Or spend money on empty accommodation and be a well run team? You see why some might think Panthers are damned whatever they do in your eyes.
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Post by wgray on Nov 11, 2022 16:10:29 GMT
Like they didn’t have months over the summer to find some accommodation. 🙄 Whilst I've stated elsewhere that there is no truth to this rumour of using Airbnb accommodation (although one or two of the properties have been Airbnbs in the past), I wanted to address this point because everyone seems to think this job should be a piece of cake - it is not. Rental prices are higher than ever and demand for properties is extremely high. Finding suitable accommodation that meets our requirements of price, quality, location, availability dates etc. for 15/16 guys in a fairly short window is extremely hard work. And, unfortunately, having the whole summer isn't a huge help - the reason being that if we approach landlords/letting agents in say June (which we did) and say "yes, we'd love to rent your property ... starting in August when the players arrive." they obviously, for the most part, want their property occupied and earning them money sooner than that and turn us down in favour of someone who is ready to move. On the flip side, towards the end of the summer when we need to find those last couple of properties in early August, a large proportion of the property being advertised is still occupied by current tenants who have given notice but won't have vacated until late August or early September. So there really is a "goldilocks" period for finding properties and we have to hope that enough of the right ones are available during that time. The job is further complicated by not necessarily knowing exactly who has signed at that point and what their needs are (e.g. wife? girlfriend? kids? uni place? sharing/not sharing?). Compound this with a need for mostly furnished homes on relatively short-term contracts and your pool of suitable properties shrinks rapidly. So there you have it. I hope that paints a picture of what goes into housing a hockey team. Thanks for the insight
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Post by iginla on Nov 11, 2022 17:07:52 GMT
If you are prepared to pay the going rate and have a good reputation of course the job would be much easier. Market price is market price you have to pay and reputations have to be earned. The club know full well a long way in advance they are going to have to house X number of imports and between what dates,therefore it really shouldn’t be that hard. The only difficult part is whether the imports are single or married etc but it’s always going to be a mix of both therefore sort the accommodation to suit with some of each and if you end up with a single guy in a two bed apartment and it costs a bit more than it should then so be it. Just have an extra shirt raffle or two ! A very selective reading of a detailed post, and once again Iggy making assumptions based on facts neither known or demonstrable. And did you really just say the team should spend money it doesn't need to on accomodation? This from the guy who said we don't have an assistant coach because the team wastes money in other areas. Which is it? Don't be wasteful and be a well run team? Or spend money on empty accommodation and be a well run team? You see why some might think Panthers are damned whatever they do in your eyes. Assumptions eh...mmmm you forget I’ve rented them an apartment, one we owned ourselves. We didn’t get paid for it either (well unless you count a shirt given to us by an embarrassed coach when he found out) and we also even had to clean the filthy state it was left in ourselves upon vacation. We weren’t the only landlords either who wouldn’t rent again based on the conversations we had with the club pleading with us to let them have it again as they were struggling with letting agencies. Would I rent to them again,not a chance ! And paying for something that may not get used like an extra bedroom to try avoid housing problems down the line is not exactly wasteful compared to wasting unnecessary money in other areas, it’s called looking after your most valuable asset which is your players. Go have a look where Steelers have put their players this year,there’s even an article about it. Strange they don’t have Panthers problems isn’t it !
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Post by pantherlee on Nov 11, 2022 17:24:54 GMT
A very selective reading of a detailed post, and once again Iggy making assumptions based on facts neither known or demonstrable. And did you really just say the team should spend money it doesn't need to on accomodation? This from the guy who said we don't have an assistant coach because the team wastes money in other areas. Which is it? Don't be wasteful and be a well run team? Or spend money on empty accommodation and be a well run team? You see why some might think Panthers are damned whatever they do in your eyes. Assumptions eh...mmmm you forget I’ve rented them an apartment, one we owned ourselves. We didn’t get paid for it either (well unless you count a shirt given to us by an embarrassed coach when he found out) and we also even had to clean the filthy state it was left in ourselves upon vacation. We weren’t the only landlords either who wouldn’t rent again based on the conversations we had with the club pleading with us to let them have it again as they were struggling with letting agencies. Would I rent to them again,not a chance ! And paying for something that may not get used like an extra bedroom to try avoid housing problems down the line is not exactly wasteful compared to wasting unnecessary money in other areas, it’s called looking after your most valuable asset which is your players. Go have a look where Steelers have put their players this year,there’s even an article about it. Strange they don’t have Panthers problems isn’t it ! And how long ago was this? Are the same people in charge today that were then? And just because you may have has one bad experience with them does that mean you know that every one who has ever had a dealing with Panthers has had exactly the same experience? You only pop your head up to talk about the club when it’s something negative to and everything you say is laced with an agenda against them which as far as I’m concerned means I take anything you come out with with a pinch of salt as most of the time I see it as OTT rubbish. As someone has just said as far as your concerned they’ll be damned if the do and damned if they don’t
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Post by iginla on Nov 11, 2022 17:50:04 GMT
Assumptions eh...mmmm you forget I’ve rented them an apartment, one we owned ourselves. We didn’t get paid for it either (well unless you count a shirt given to us by an embarrassed coach when he found out) and we also even had to clean the filthy state it was left in ourselves upon vacation. We weren’t the only landlords either who wouldn’t rent again based on the conversations we had with the club pleading with us to let them have it again as they were struggling with letting agencies. Would I rent to them again,not a chance ! And paying for something that may not get used like an extra bedroom to try avoid housing problems down the line is not exactly wasteful compared to wasting unnecessary money in other areas, it’s called looking after your most valuable asset which is your players. Go have a look where Steelers have put their players this year,there’s even an article about it. Strange they don’t have Panthers problems isn’t it ! And how long ago was this? Are the same people in charge today that were then? And just because you may have has one bad experience with them does that mean you know that every one who has ever had a dealing with Panthers has had exactly the same experience? You only pop your head up to talk about the club when it’s something negative to and everything you say is laced with an agenda against them which as far as I’m concerned means I take anything you come out with with a pinch of salt as most of the time I see it as OTT rubbish. As someone has just said as far as your concerned they’ll be damned if the do and damned if they don’t Think what you like,you have your opinion which is obviously to believe every word the club tells you and I have mine based on first hand experience. Yes in this instance my experience was a good while ago but as I said before reputations have to be earned and Panthers reputation wasn’t good. In time with Omar there now I would imagine Panthers will gain a better reputation but at present they are probably still tarnished by the actions of previous regimes. And believe me,we had more than one bad experience with them !
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Post by pantherlee on Nov 11, 2022 18:01:32 GMT
And how long ago was this? Are the same people in charge today that were then? And just because you may have has one bad experience with them does that mean you know that every one who has ever had a dealing with Panthers has had exactly the same experience? You only pop your head up to talk about the club when it’s something negative to and everything you say is laced with an agenda against them which as far as I’m concerned means I take anything you come out with with a pinch of salt as most of the time I see it as OTT rubbish. As someone has just said as far as your concerned they’ll be damned if the do and damned if they don’t Think what you like,you have your opinion which is obviously to believe every word the club tells you and I have mine based on first hand experience. Yes in this instance my experience was a good while ago but as I said before reputations have to be earned and Panthers reputation wasn’t good. In time with Omar there now I would imagine Panthers will gain a better reputation but at present they are probably still tarnished by the actions of previous regimes. And believe me,we had more than one bad experience with them ! I will think what I like thanks. Btw I don’t agree with everything the club says especially when they under the guardianship of Gary Moran. I just don’t agree with you on pretty much anything as like I said before everything is laced with an agenda and said with vitriol so even if you do say something with any substance behind I find it difficult to take serious or with any credence. In regards to now I am more inclined to listen to what’s being said by the club as Pacha seems to have more scruples and more honesty about him and has already delivered with what he set out to do when he took over and seems genuinely in touch with the fanbase rather than just means to make a profit
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Post by iginla on Nov 11, 2022 18:21:14 GMT
Think what you like,you have your opinion which is obviously to believe every word the club tells you and I have mine based on first hand experience. Yes in this instance my experience was a good while ago but as I said before reputations have to be earned and Panthers reputation wasn’t good. In time with Omar there now I would imagine Panthers will gain a better reputation but at present they are probably still tarnished by the actions of previous regimes. And believe me,we had more than one bad experience with them ! I will think what I like thanks. Btw I don’t agree with everything the club says especially when they under the guardianship of Gary Moran. I just don’t agree with you on pretty much anything as like I said before everything is laced with an agenda and said with vitriol so even if you do say something with any substance behind I find it difficult to take serious or with any credence. In regards to now I am more inclined to listen to what’s being said by the club as Pacha seems to have more scruples and more honesty about him and has already delivered with what he set out to do when he took over and seems genuinely in touch with the fanbase rather than just means to make a profit I agree with you about Moran and about Pacha. As for what you think about my words,I just say it as it was or is from my own experience and if I read something I know is wrong or not true I say so to try set the record straight, whether people believe it is their choice. What I can say is that anything I do say regarding my own experiences is perfectly true.
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