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Post by pantherlee on Jun 2, 2022 14:47:57 GMT
When you say past regime who are you referring to specifically? Moran/Doucet
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Post by iginla on Jun 2, 2022 14:48:24 GMT
Hook is another one ... Put it this way if panthers go for Lacho and Kelsall that's quite telling of the season ahead...and not in a good way . The Brit pack has been tragic for years.. it needs to improve! Just signing 37yo Myers won't cut it If only it were that simple. It’s easy saying we need to improve the Brit pack but if the previous regime burnt bridges with the likes of Betteridge and Perlini with Brits not exactly growing on trees and the ones that are around generally stay where they are then it’s easier said than done to strengthen the Brits. We might end up having to accept that we’ve got to do with Lacho and Kelsall for a while and hope we can eventually tempt players in hope that the likes Hopkins develop well. For this season I’m just hoping that the quality of imports compensated for a weaker Brit pack That’s it,you reap what you sow. Probably just around now Pacha is realising that the shiny, glossy,supposedly professional exterior surrounding Nottingham Panthers hides a murky world of even more problems than he thought he knew.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2022 14:50:19 GMT
When you say past regime who are you referring to specifically? Moran/Doucet Correct me if I'm wrong but those are no longer at the club now...
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 2, 2022 14:55:36 GMT
If only it were that simple. It’s easy saying we need to improve the Brit pack but if the previous regime burnt bridges with the likes of Betteridge and Perlini with Brits not exactly growing on trees and the ones that are around generally stay where they are then it’s easier said than done to strengthen the Brits. We might end up having to accept that we’ve got to do with Lacho and Kelsall for a while and hope we can eventually tempt players in hope that the likes Hopkins develop well. For this season I’m just hoping that the quality of imports compensated for a weaker Brit pack That’s it,you reap what you sow. Probably just around now Pacha is realising that the shiny, glossy,supposedly professional exterior surrounding Nottingham Panthers hides a murky world of even more problems than he thought he knew. Since when have Panthers had a shiny, glossy and professional exterior. The problems at this club were all too apparent and I think Pacha knew that and came in determined to put things right. That’s why things like missing retired jerseys and missing staff members were uploaded on the website pretty much immediately and also began to crank up fan engagement in pretty short order too
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 2, 2022 14:56:29 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but those are no longer at the club now... I know. That’s why I said PAST regime
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Post by jd on Jun 2, 2022 15:01:25 GMT
That’s it,you reap what you sow. Probably just around now Pacha is realising that the shiny, glossy,supposedly professional exterior surrounding Nottingham Panthers hides a murky world of even more problems than he thought he knew. Since when have Panthers had a shiny, glossy and professional exterior. The problems at this club were all too apparent and I think Pacha knew that and came in determined to put things right. That’s why things like missing retired jerseys and missing staff members were uploaded on the website pretty much immediately and also began to crank up fan engagement in pretty short order too Of course he knew the problems at the club. He’s not as daft as captain positive thinks he is
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Post by Yotes on Jun 2, 2022 15:15:10 GMT
Good luck to Ollie, glad he's not moved within the league (yet).
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Post by iginla on Jun 2, 2022 15:45:36 GMT
Since when have Panthers had a shiny, glossy and professional exterior. The problems at this club were all too apparent and I think Pacha knew that and came in determined to put things right. That’s why things like missing retired jerseys and missing staff members were uploaded on the website pretty much immediately and also began to crank up fan engagement in pretty short order too Of course he knew the problems at the club. He’s not as daft as captain positive thinks he is I bet he didn’t know all of them. Probably thought this recruitment lark was going to be a walk in the park compared to living on a shoestring in Dundee and Manchester.
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 2, 2022 15:47:52 GMT
Of course he knew the problems at the club. He’s not as daft as captain positive thinks he is I bet he didn’t know all of them. Probably thought this recruitment lark was going to be a walk in the park compared to living on a shoestring in Dundee and Manchester. Except that Graham will be the one doing the recruitment. Not Pacha
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Post by iginla on Jun 2, 2022 15:48:45 GMT
That’s it,you reap what you sow. Probably just around now Pacha is realising that the shiny, glossy,supposedly professional exterior surrounding Nottingham Panthers hides a murky world of even more problems than he thought he knew. Since when have Panthers had a shiny, glossy and professional exterior. The problems at this club were all too apparent and I think Pacha knew that and came in determined to put things right. That’s why things like missing retired jerseys and missing staff members were uploaded on the website pretty much immediately and also began to crank up fan engagement in pretty short order too Not the reality image we know,the shiny,glossy image Panthers like to try and portray of themselves. Yes What was it Thommo called them and he was dead right too....”Team Hollywood” !
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Post by iginla on Jun 2, 2022 15:50:06 GMT
I bet he didn’t know all of them. Probably thought this recruitment lark was going to be a walk in the park compared to living on a shoestring in Dundee and Manchester. Except that Graham will be the one doing the recruitment. Not Pacha Assisted by Pacha of course. Graham will find out too.
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Post by jd on Jun 2, 2022 16:05:11 GMT
Except that Graham will be the one doing the recruitment. Not Pacha Assisted by Pacha of course. Graham will find out too. Good job it won’t interest an ex panthers fan, such as yourself
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 2, 2022 18:42:50 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but those are no longer at the club now... I know. That’s why I said PAST regime I admire your patience.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jun 3, 2022 6:24:27 GMT
Since when have Panthers had a shiny, glossy and professional exterior. The problems at this club were all too apparent and I think Pacha knew that and came in determined to put things right. That’s why things like missing retired jerseys and missing staff members were uploaded on the website pretty much immediately and also began to crank up fan engagement in pretty short order too Not the reality image we know,the shiny,glossy image Panthers like to try and portray of themselves. Yes What was it Thommo called them and he was dead right too....”Team Hollywood” ! Didn't that refer to the style of play ?
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Post by iginla on Jun 3, 2022 6:43:01 GMT
Not the reality image we know,the shiny,glossy image Panthers like to try and portray of themselves. Yes What was it Thommo called them and he was dead right too....”Team Hollywood” ! Didn't that refer to the style of play ? I think it referred to the whole thing,on ice and off ice. Whatever,it was the perfect analogy when you look at some of the complete tripe that happens over the pond in Hollywood.
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Post by meadow on Jun 3, 2022 10:42:06 GMT
Happened to catch a game vs Cov from 2015/16 via the Youtube algorithm that illustrated how much our brit pack has been depleated. In that game we had an all brit PP unit of:
Lacho Lee Farmer Clarke Myers
Aside from that we also had Swindlehurst, Ollie and Sam Oakford on the bench
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Post by Bagheera on Jun 3, 2022 11:37:35 GMT
Happened to catch a game vs Cov from 2015/16 via the Youtube algorithm that illustrated how much our brit pack has been depleated. In that game we had an all brit PP unit of: Lacho Lee Farmer Clarke Myers Aside from that we also had Swindlehurst, Ollie and Sam Oakford on the bench 17/18 was arguably stronger, certainly on par with that Line up. Perlini in for Myers with Ollie a few years more experienced and playing more of a regular role. We then had Tetlow, Kelsall and Hazeldine aswell. The key in 17/18 was the crossover of having Clarke and Perlini at the same time. With Farmer too. We all know it's milee off what it was but comparing to those seasons in particular really highlight it.
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Post by spik on Jun 3, 2022 14:31:02 GMT
Ollie Betteridge 439 games 60 Goals 57 assists 117 Points 133 Pims
Best points haul from games played, in all the eleven seasons, was this last one.
Note: To avoid bumping up the 'Fixtures and Statistics' thread again. Just to note that I have added detail the the Great Britain part of it and updated the all-time lists, showing all Panthers players (ex and now) in gold.
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Post by bratters on Jun 3, 2022 19:04:01 GMT
I think everyone realises that next season isn’t going to bring home a Grand Slam - this is very much a transition - I don’t set my expectations to high - a decent mid league showing with perhaps a bit of excitement in the Chsllenge Cup .
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jun 3, 2022 19:55:19 GMT
I think everyone realises that next season isn’t going to bring home a Grand Slam - this is very much a transition - I don’t set my expectations to high - a decent mid league showing with perhaps a bit of excitement in the Chsllenge Cup . How many transition/building years is this now? How did the Cardiff rebuild go last year?
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Post by iginla on Jun 3, 2022 20:21:06 GMT
I think everyone realises that next season isn’t going to bring home a Grand Slam - this is very much a transition - I don’t set my expectations to high - a decent mid league showing with perhaps a bit of excitement in the Chsllenge Cup . How many transition/building years is this now? How did the Cardiff rebuild go last year? Far far too many. It’s just a poor excuse used by underachievers!
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 3, 2022 20:25:37 GMT
Agreed. It’s not like football when you have to build a squad over time. Get recruitment done well and I don’t see why we can’t at least challenge for trophies. I certainly expect a major improvement from last season
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 21:19:53 GMT
In the NHL you have rebuilds which can take upto 8-10 years! Take Pittsburgh.. once Crosby and Malkin are finished they won't be challenging for honours for a long time (they are already on the decline now)
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Post by allingtonskates on Jun 3, 2022 22:52:11 GMT
In the NHL you have rebuilds which can take upto 8-10 years! Take Pittsburgh.. once Crosby and Malkin are finished they won't be challenging for honours for a long time (they are already on the decline now) completely different situations though. Any one of the top 4 teams in our league should realistically be able to challenge for trophies from the first season. Obviously for a new coach to the league it could take time to get use to the league but nevertheless it’s completely realistic to challenge (not necessarily win) instantly. Especially if you add on top of that the we have the same budget as the rest of the top 4.
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Post by ant on Jun 4, 2022 8:21:02 GMT
There are fans that will never return and players that have now grown impatient by our lack of ambition under Black. He is killing this club and when the day finally comes that he goes he will leave a team that has shrunk beyond any recognition. If we were a football team he would have been hounded out. He gets away with it as a high percentage of our fans are just using it as part of their occasional Saturday night leisure pursuits like a trip to the cinema or ten pin bowling.
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