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Post by Discoray on May 6, 2022 21:24:32 GMT
Hard to dispute Panthers fans have had more transparency these past two days, than the past two years.
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Post by wgray on May 6, 2022 21:53:09 GMT
When he was at Dundee, Omar Pacha regularly put messages like this out to the fan base on the Stars website. It's good to see that it looks like it's going to continue now he's here in Nottingham. Pacha is speaking a lot of sense again, hopefully he can, (and will be allowed to) be able to implement all the things he wants to do. Hopefully Doug Christiansen & Rober Lachowicz won't be a part of that - though beggars can't be choosers. The fanbase is certainly fractured, mainly as a result of the clubs actions and in some cases non actions. Hopefully this is the start of the road back to where the club should be As others have said this is a big summer for the club and it needs to get its decisions right. Pacha has a lot of weight on his shoulders now and I think the job is going to be much much bigger than he could have ever thought. From being the biggest arena team in the league to being brought down to a level few fans would have ever believed possible just a few years ago. Through fault, circumstance and bloody poor recruiting I honestly believe that it will be a happy clapping quiz night only fan base unless he pulls off a miracle. I believe he can turn it around. This message today is exactly what fans want, honesty and transparency. It’s nice to feel optimistic and excited for once!
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Post by iginla on May 6, 2022 22:22:07 GMT
Hard to dispute Panthers fans have had more transparency these past two days, than the past two years. True,more than even in the past TEN years. But it’s only happened because Black’s been forced into it by fans walking away. Basically fan power won as we always knew it would, shame it had to be that way though.
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May 7, 2022 0:32:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 0:32:43 GMT
He's definitely been briefed on how bad this club as become, it's been mismanaged on the fan liaison side for years, it's been a closed shop on that front. His enthusiasm is there to see & I truly hope he can turn things around but he has a massive job on his hands because most of the office staff are the old mould of GM.. not approachable. I don't want to see people losing their jobs but he definitely needs a new accommodation officer because this year has been appalling. NB should be worried at the state of things let's hope its not too late. And that's the problem people need to lose their jobs harsh but true. He will soon realise certain people are passengers and ain't worth the wage they are being paid. He said he wants the best people in position.. there's one or two in thay office who are no where near the best. It's amateurish. Pacha has been in the job 48 hours and has already communicated more to the fans than past regimes have! A earlier poster makes a very good point about the value of players. It does suggest GD paid over the odds for players? There's a bit of Dane Murphy about him. (at Forest)
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 0:34:49 GMT
Pacha has a lot of weight on his shoulders now and I think the job is going to be much much bigger than he could have ever thought. From being the biggest arena team in the league to being brought down to a level few fans would have ever believed possible just a few years ago. Through fault, circumstance and bloody poor recruiting I honestly believe that it will be a happy clapping quiz night only fan base unless he pulls off a miracle. I believe he can turn it around. This message today is exactly what fans want, honesty and transparency. It’s nice to feel optimistic and excited for once! Exactly I've said for years panthers have basically BS their way through season after season and won't admit when they were wrong and carry on making the same mistakes .
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 7, 2022 8:28:30 GMT
Hard to dispute Panthers fans have had more transparency these past two days, than the past two years. It's obviously a lot worse behind the scenes with regards season ticket sales and mass free ticket giveaways than anyone sitting in the arena thought.
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May 7, 2022 8:57:58 GMT
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Post by ant on May 7, 2022 8:57:58 GMT
This guy 'sounds' like he's making the right noises. It's such a shame that it's about a decade too late. I literally know 30 lifelong fans that have walked away. We all know that we have never invested properly and in the team and when we have landed a decent coach like Nielsen we haven't backed him sufficiently. Of course, stumbling on a top player like Ling or Rasto's miracle performance against better sides in the play offs will gloss over the dire way our club has been run since we moved to the arena but fans have already made their choice. The only way back is to invest what we can afford. Do that and we can topple the monopoly the 'big three' ( no longer a 'big four' as we are just part of the pack) on trophies. When I started following the Panthers in the '80s someone described us as the Manchester Utd of hockey . That statement has never felt more poignant as it does now. Let's hope Pacha is just step one on the journey eh?
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May 7, 2022 10:09:14 GMT
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 7, 2022 10:09:14 GMT
www.panthers.co.uk/home/220506-message-from-the-ceoA message from Pacha. I really like what he's got to say. Let's hope he can deliver. One thing I've noticed he has mentioned twicw now. He knows the value of players. Is this a suggestion he knows Doucet payed over the odds last year? As others have pointed out... Finally some real honesty and crucial transparency from the club. A good start. Let's hope this really is finally the end of the club treating us like money making mushrooms: keeping us in the dark and feeding us manure. Whatever else happens his actions in the first days (so different to the past) speak volumes that he recognises how the club has been treating it's fans and the need to start on a different foot. Hilary Clinton once said "take all feedback seriously but never personally". Looks like Pacha thinks the same way which is definitely promising
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May 7, 2022 11:10:09 GMT
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Post by spik on May 7, 2022 11:10:09 GMT
Constructive criticism from now on folks.
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May 7, 2022 13:31:16 GMT
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 7, 2022 13:31:16 GMT
Am I right in detecting a definite change of pace and focus with the first new Panthers Video?:
Putting fans front and centre again and not afraid to show empty seats to do it.
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 7, 2022 13:38:22 GMT
And blimey oh Riley! A couple of days after getting in touch to say it was embarrassing and amateurish that the retired shirts section of the website *still* didn't list Corey or Clarkie years later... It's fixed
I'd emailed them three times previously with not even a response. Omar arrives and boom one message and it's fixed! I'm impressed 👍🏾
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Post by iginla on May 7, 2022 14:04:22 GMT
He's definitely been briefed on how bad this club as become, it's been mismanaged on the fan liaison side for years, it's been a closed shop on that front. His enthusiasm is there to see & I truly hope he can turn things around but he has a massive job on his hands because most of the office staff are the old mould of GM.. not approachable. I don't want to see people losing their jobs but he definitely needs a new accommodation officer because this year has been appalling. NB should be worried at the state of things let's hope its not too late. I’d love to have listened in to the undoubted conversation between Pacha and Doucet. 😆
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Post by iginla on May 7, 2022 14:07:45 GMT
And blimey oh Riley! Two days after getting in touch to say it was embarrassing and amateurish that the retired shirts section of the website *still* didn't list Corey or Clarkie years later... It's fixed I'd emailed them three times previously with not even a response. Omar arrives and boom one message and it's fixed! I'm impressed 👍🏾 You never know they might actually put up pics of the two office newbies soon. Although it was only four/five months ago they started ! 🙄
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Post by pantherlee on May 7, 2022 14:08:46 GMT
And blimey oh Riley! Two days after getting in touch to say it was embarrassing and amateurish that the retired shirts section of the website *still* didn't list Corey or Clarkie years later... It's fixed I'd emailed them three times previously with not even a response. Omar arrives and boom one message and it's fixed! I'm impressed 👍🏾 I said in an earlier post that Pacha seems to have already identified the off ice problems at the Panthers and has wasted no time getting to work to fix them. He will want to make the Panthers to looks like a real professional club and won’t accept the slapdash that’ll do attitude that has been there for years now
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May 7, 2022 14:46:25 GMT
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 7, 2022 14:46:25 GMT
And blimey oh Riley! Two days after getting in touch to say it was embarrassing and amateurish that the retired shirts section of the website *still* didn't list Corey or Clarkie years later... It's fixed I'd emailed them three times previously with not even a response. Omar arrives and boom one message and it's fixed! I'm impressed 👍🏾 You never know they might actually put up pics of the two office newbies soon. Although it was only four/five months ago they started ! 🙄 No sign of that yet but talk about a change of approach: beneath Pacha's picture is a landline number for him rather than a standard generic email address. Now that's taking personal accountability and transparency to a welcome new level.
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Post by DMS on May 7, 2022 15:29:25 GMT
Pacha away from dundee announced few min ago. New head coach in place at dundee to be announced this week. Ao is he CEO of panthers ?? Interview on Dundee stars TV.. Jeff Mason to be Stars coach Confirmed
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Post by sevcik on May 7, 2022 20:50:07 GMT
Hard to dispute Panthers fans have had more transparency these past two days, than the past two years. It's obviously a lot worse behind the scenes with regards season ticket sales and mass free ticket giveaways than anyone sitting in the arena thought. I was told from a usually reliable source that going into Last season, season ticket sales were approximately 1600 down & that's a lot to lose - No wonder then Panthers tried introduce what was in effect a half season ticket to tey to entice some back. Whilst various reasons have caused the drop off in season ticket sales Pacha will need to put everything he learned in his business and marketing degree into action to get the fans back through the door, especially the former die hards To say Panthers we're a rudderless ship is an understatement. Hopefully the roots of change to rectify that are only just beginning, and is here to stay
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Post by Mark on May 8, 2022 1:07:10 GMT
Whoever said Gary Moran did a great job for the Panthers? Finally that cobblers will be laid to rest.
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Post by sj on May 8, 2022 6:06:02 GMT
I wonder where the housing officer/co commentator, wage theif sits in Pacha's plans? 🤔 He has had nice easy ride since he stopped dressing as a back up.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 6:30:21 GMT
I wonder where the housing officer/co commentator, wage theif sits in Pacha's plans? 🤔 He has had nice easy ride since he stopped dressing as a back up. Top post.. exactly
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Post by Jord v4 on May 8, 2022 9:11:36 GMT
I wonder where the housing officer/co commentator, wage theif sits in Pacha's plans? 🤔 He has had nice easy ride since he stopped dressing as a back up. 100% this. Nothing screams jobs for the boys more than this. It's an absolute joke how he's been kept on the payroll for so long & completely sums up what the Panthers have become.
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May 8, 2022 10:51:00 GMT
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Post by jd on May 8, 2022 10:51:00 GMT
I wonder where the housing officer/co commentator, wage theif sits in Pacha's plans? 🤔 He has had nice easy ride since he stopped dressing as a back up. 100% this. Nothing screams jobs for the boys more than this. It's an absolute joke how he's been kept on the payroll for so long & completely sums up what the Panthers have become. So he’s not on the website but I guess that’s not new. With James Brandon gone as well be interesting to see who ends up on comms. Jono and Owen Bradley would be awesome.
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Post by iginla on May 8, 2022 11:04:00 GMT
I wonder where the housing officer/co commentator, wage theif sits in Pacha's plans? 🤔 He has had nice easy ride since he stopped dressing as a back up. 100% this. Nothing screams jobs for the boys more than this. It's an absolute joke how he's been kept on the payroll for so long & completely sums up what the Panthers have become. Well there’s only one reason he’s kept on and that’s because he’s Mitch Stevenson’s son in law and Panthers want to do some brown nosing with the top dogs at the NIC. 🙄
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May 8, 2022 12:31:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 12:31:35 GMT
100% this. Nothing screams jobs for the boys more than this. It's an absolute joke how he's been kept on the payroll for so long & completely sums up what the Panthers have become. Well there’s only one reason he’s kept on and that’s because he’s Mitch Stevenson’s son in law and Panthers want to do some brown nosing with the top dogs at the NIC. 🙄 Hasn't MS Retired now or isn't he leaving his position? Yup Green being employed epitomizes everything that's screwed up with panthers I'm confident Pacha will change that
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May 8, 2022 12:58:51 GMT
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Post by iginla on May 8, 2022 12:58:51 GMT
Well there’s only one reason he’s kept on and that’s because he’s Mitch Stevenson’s son in law and Panthers want to do some brown nosing with the top dogs at the NIC. 🙄 Hasn't MS Retired now or isn't he leaving his position? Yup Green being employed epitomizes everything that's screwed up with panthers I'm confident Pacha will change that Not sure if he has or not. MS strikes me as a guy that would never retire altogether he had his finger in so many pies.
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