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Post by John Casey on Apr 10, 2022 18:15:32 GMT
That near comeback makes it all the more frustrating. Where was that the first 2 periods?! I know right, my theory is they don't know what strategy to use because I don't think they have much confidence in Kerlin. It seems like they are caught between a normal game like Carr is in net and have everybody back to try to prevent shots. To be fair Kerlin did make some good saves but there were a lot of rebounds. For our skaters, there were a few loose pucks begging for a tap in. It was such a frustrating game and also kudos for Guildford on not having to go on the PK lol
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Post by Robbie Nud on Apr 11, 2022 9:50:23 GMT
In some ways an atrocious performance; you can't just turn in the 3rd when you are 4 goals down to start your comeback. If they have played half as well for the first 40 minutes as they did in the last 20 then we could have won. The flames NM was giving more rebounds than a trampoline but there was never anyone following the shooter to be on hand to pick it up. Another was that the flames players were talking to each other all game long, whereas there was nothing from the Panthers, is there issues in the locker room? Or are the imports bidding their time until 1 week after the league finishes and then they can go home and try to forget this season.
As for the presentation afterwards, don't know how many stopped, I'd guess not many by the numbers leaving at the final hooter. Probably done in front of few hundred under 16's with their parents sat there wishing it would hurry and finish.
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Post by EMB on Apr 11, 2022 11:33:53 GMT
Was good to see Ollie again, didnt realise it was his leg. long job that one & hopefully back for next season. Will be a big loss for GB
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2022 15:21:09 GMT
Was good to see Ollie again, didnt realise it was his leg. long job that one & hopefully back for next season. Will be a big loss for GB What's he done to his leg to make you worry he won't be fit in 5 months?
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Post by jd on Apr 11, 2022 20:52:02 GMT
Broken it at a guess? Or ligaments?
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Post by wgray on Apr 11, 2022 21:13:31 GMT
From another fan I’ve been told Ollie’s damaged his ACL, he had a brace on his knee as he walked into the ice yesterday
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Post by jd on Apr 11, 2022 22:20:38 GMT
From another fan I’ve been told Ollie’s damaged his ACL, he had a brace on his knee as he walked into the ice yesterday Ouch, that’s not good news
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Post by Jord v4 on Apr 12, 2022 8:05:53 GMT
From another fan I’ve been told Ollie’s damaged his ACL, he had a brace on his knee as he walked into the ice yesterday Partial ACL & MCL tear. PCL is ok. ACL's are the serious ones though, they cause the most damage.
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Post by bobness on Apr 12, 2022 8:08:12 GMT
Any reason? There's only 13 imports on the gamesheet so is he injured? He played vs Blaze?
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 12, 2022 11:04:17 GMT
Any reason? There's only 13 imports on the gamesheet so is he injured? He played vs Blaze? I havn't heard any reason. Didn't here any announcements. He didn't ice at all and I couldn't see him on the bench.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Apr 12, 2022 11:41:18 GMT
Highlights from Saturday show him limping off after a collision near their net in the second period.
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Post by EMB on Apr 12, 2022 12:08:54 GMT
Broken it at a guess? Or ligaments? Yes ACL which is not good. Boarded by Brassard apparently in training. Treatments have evolved soo much in the last 20-30 years hopefully we see him fully fit for the start of next season, a big loss for GB I snapped my arterial and cruciate ligaments when I was 18 and spent the best part of 6 months in a rehab hospital, you wouldn't get that now days.
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Post by jd on Apr 12, 2022 16:06:20 GMT
Broken it at a guess? Or ligaments? Yes ACL which is not good. Boarded by Brassard apparently in training. Treatments have evolved soo much in the last 20-30 years hopefully we see him fully fit for the start of next season, a big loss for GB I snapped my arterial and cruciate ligaments when I was 18 and spent the best part of 6 months in a rehab hospital, you wouldn't get that now days. Blimey, cheers Brassard
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Post by bobness on Apr 12, 2022 16:37:33 GMT
Almost certainly just a freak accident, surely?
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Post by iginla on Apr 12, 2022 21:17:53 GMT
From another fan I’ve been told Ollie’s damaged his ACL, he had a brace on his knee as he walked into the ice yesterday Partial ACL & MCL tear. PCL is ok. ACL's are the serious ones though, they cause the most damage. So with a serious injury like that why only two weeks ago on the O/S after his scan did Panthers insinuate he could be back for the play offs and/or GB ? One can only think they were lying again !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 21:36:08 GMT
Even footballer's who suffer a ACL with all the equipment they can get can still be out for 8-9 months.. yup it's one of the worst injuries a pro sportsperson can get ..
Panthers lying? Never
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Post by jd on Apr 12, 2022 21:54:18 GMT
Partial ACL & MCL tear. PCL is ok. ACL's are the serious ones though, they cause the most damage. So with a serious injury like that why only two weeks ago on the O/S after his scan did Panthers insinuate he could be back for the play offs and/or GB ? One can only think they were lying again ! It’s pathetic isn’t it. Just be honest. Not a lot to ask for
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Post by Yotes on Apr 12, 2022 22:00:03 GMT
Would have to assume they didn't actually know the full extent of the injury at that point, assuming the Harbinger knows more about ligaments than he does AHL wingers
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Post by iginla on Apr 12, 2022 22:07:16 GMT
So with a serious injury like that why only two weeks ago on the O/S after his scan did Panthers insinuate he could be back for the play offs and/or GB ? One can only think they were lying again ! It’s pathetic isn’t it. Just be honest. Not a lot to ask for Certainly is pathetic. They also knew Lee was done and didn’t say anything and you can bet they knew Domingue was going to be out a long time too. Just another thing that makes me question everything Panthers do.
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Post by iginla on Apr 12, 2022 22:12:29 GMT
Would have to assume they didn't actually know the full extent of the injury at that point, assuming the Harbinger knows more about ligaments than he does AHL wingers That’s not what the article on 30th March suggests.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 12, 2022 22:43:32 GMT
I can't see any benefit to them dangling carrots in this case - he could be back for the playoffs/GB, who cares? - in fact they'd be benefited by going with the woe is me perspective. Blame it on the injuries. Blacky did, several times.
Do you even get MRI results immediately? Last person I knew who had one it took a week or two to come back.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 12, 2022 23:10:57 GMT
Would have to assume they didn't actually know the full extent of the injury at that point, assuming the Harbinger knows more about ligaments than he does AHL wingers That’s not what the article on 30th March suggests. The article referred to stated that they *hoped* that he might be back before next season *if he responded well*. And that's the crucial bit... How he responds to treatment. ACL tears don't always need surgical repair and it's not at all uncommon for doctors to see how someone's body is responding before making a) a time frame diagnosis and b) a decision on surgery. Which is why some ACL surgeries don't happen immediately, they wait to see if it's going to be necessary if they think there's a chance it'll heal without intervention It doesn't mean they don't know the full extent of the injury from the first scan (scans are normally available for viewing immediately if required). It just means they don't know *how well the patient is going to respond to treatment* and recovery. Everybody is different. And every body is different. Thus you can often only fully assess the healing response of any patient after a period of time has passed. Which was flagged up in the article and sound like has happened. Sadly Ollie clearly hasn't responded as well as they'd hoped. The relevant part of the article... "Every effort, *without rushing*, will be made to get Ollie safely back on the ice & into the line-up for the playoffs & post-season internationals *but until his response to treatment is known no guarantees can be made at this stage*." www.panthers.co.uk/home/220330-betteridge
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Post by blackandgold73 on Apr 12, 2022 23:21:42 GMT
I can't see any benefit to them dangling carrots in this case - he could be back for the playoffs/GB, who cares? - in fact they'd be benefited by going with the woe is me perspective. Blame it on the injuries. Blacky did, several times. Do you even get MRI results immediately? Last person I knew who had one it took a week or two to come back. MRI scans done as an outpatient or non-emergent will often take time to be communicated to the patient as they have to be reviewed first by the ordering doctor/consultant even though theoretically the doctor could view them then. They're just not present and available to. Though something bad or unexpected would be flagged up for emergent viewing. An emergent MRI after a serious accident will be used for assessment so will be viewed immediately to aid diagnosis.
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Post by iginla on Apr 12, 2022 23:34:23 GMT
That’s not what the article on 30th March suggests. The article referred to stated that they *hoped* that he might be back before next season *if he responded well*. And that's the crucial bit... How he responds to treatment. ACL tears don't always need surgical repair and it's not at all uncommon for doctors to see how someone's body is responding before making a) a time frame diagnosis and b) a decision on surgery. Which is why some ACL surgeries don't happen immediately, they wait to see if it's going to be necessary if they think there's a chance it'll heal without intervention It doesn't mean they don't know the full extent of the injury from the first scan (scans are normally available for viewing immediately if required). It just means they don't know *how well the patient is going to respond to treatment* and recovery. Everybody is different. And every body is different. Thus you can often only fully assess the healing response of any patient after a period of time has passed. Which was flagged up in the article and sound like has happened. Sadly Ollie clearly hasn't responded as well as they'd hoped. The relevant part of the article... "Every effort, *without rushing*, will be made to get Ollie safely back on the ice & into the line-up for the playoffs & post-season internationals *but until his response to treatment is known no guarantees can be made at this stage*." www.panthers.co.uk/home/220330-betteridgeWhy even suggest he might be back for the play offs. With the best will in the world if he’s done his ACL and MCL he was never coming back that quick. Sorry but either they’re lying or the medical team are crap.
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Post by Jord v4 on Apr 13, 2022 8:08:02 GMT
Partial ACL & MCL tear. PCL is ok. ACL's are the serious ones though, they cause the most damage. So with a serious injury like that why only two weeks ago on the O/S after his scan did Panthers insinuate he could be back for the play offs and/or GB ? One can only think they were lying again ! They didn't know the grade of the tear(s). You have to wait until the swelling settles for the extent of damage. This is common practice.
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