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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 15, 2022 9:45:14 GMT
Lesson for Cardiff as well, don't go signing invisible players & you won't get perfectly good goals disallowed. Mickey Mouse league strikes again. Why what happened there ? Perfectly good goal for Cardiff called off due to an apparent blocker contact, seemed like the stripes were looking for a reason to disallow it. The angles on Premier Sport were very inconclusive & the whole thing was handled very amateurishly. Skalde was rightly furious & a comment he made to the zebras is doing the rounds. Belfast were the better team mind you, they deserved the points. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 9:51:36 GMT
Lesson for Cardiff as well, don't go signing invisible players & you won't get perfectly good goals disallowed. Mickey Mouse league strikes again. Why what happened there ? They have a goal washed out for goalie interference when they pulled carruth.. looked dodgy at the time .. devils coach wasn't best pleased 🤣🤣 |
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Post by wannabe2 on Jan 15, 2022 14:21:29 GMT
Think Belfast took the game 60-40, and deserved the win, the better team on the day won. It was however all marred with the poxy decision in the last minute, it was a carbon copy of the game over there just before covid, it was dealt with amateurish and we all knew there was only going to be one winner. Losing being outplayed is not a problem,losing thru cheating is another thing. Adey comments were spot on, the other Geezer is a dipstick, Skalde hit the nail on the head with his comments. Never thought I would say this but I hope Steelers take the league. We have another new player by the way,he is in Cardiff Riley Brant.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jan 15, 2022 14:21:44 GMT
Sorry double posted it.
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Post by langer on Jan 15, 2022 15:09:44 GMT
It'll make the league look even more amateurish than it already is if they let Skalde get away with calling the officiating and the league an effing joke. He must have known what the league reputation was when he signed up to coach in it. He got away with similar comments after a Champions League game.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 15, 2022 18:34:58 GMT
It'll make the league look even more amateurish than it already is if they let Skalde get away with calling the officiating and the league an effing joke. He must have known what the league reputation was when he signed up to coach in it. He got away with similar comments after a Champions League game. The overhead camera shot released confirms how bad a call it was. Skalde has every right to be swizzled at that. |
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Post by langer on Jan 15, 2022 19:41:35 GMT
Skalde can be swizzled but he's been around long enough to know calling the league he's earning his dosh in is an effing joke just adds more fire to the lack of professionalism the EIHL is known for.
I'm not sure how the overhead shot definitively confirms it was Besko interfering with Coughler or vice versa, just my opinion but the officials decided it was the latter. Poor officiating or poor league off ice technology to help game officials make the right call ?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 15, 2022 19:50:47 GMT
Skalde can be swizzled but he's been around long enough to know calling the league he's earning his dosh in is an effing joke just adds more fire to the lack of professionalism the EIHL is known for. I'm not sure how the overhead shot definitively confirms it was Besko interfering with Coughler or vice versa, just my opinion but the officials decided it was the latter. Poor officiating or poor league off ice technology to help game officials make the right call ? The EIHL is unprofessional, everyone knows this already. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 15, 2022 19:52:54 GMT
Skalde can be swizzled but he's been around long enough to know calling the league he's earning his dosh in is an effing joke just adds more fire to the lack of professionalism the EIHL is known for. I'm not sure how the overhead shot definitively confirms it was Besko interfering with Coughler or vice versa, just my opinion but the officials decided it was the latter. Poor officiating or poor league off ice technology to help game officials make the right call ? The EIHL is unprofessional, everyone knows this already. But it has an M&S bag? |
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Post by iginla on Jan 15, 2022 21:17:52 GMT
It'll make the league look even more amateurish than it already is if they let Skalde get away with calling the officiating and the league an effing joke. He must have known what the league reputation was when he signed up to coach in it. He got away with similar comments after a Champions League game. The overhead camera shot released confirms how bad a call it was. Skalde has every right to be swizzled at that. Tom Darnell on Twitter reckoned it was no goal. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 15, 2022 21:23:14 GMT
The overhead camera shot released confirms how bad a call it was. Skalde has every right to be swizzled at that. Tom Darnell on Twitter reckoned it was no goal. 🤷♂️ Well that's my mind changed then... |
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Post by wannabe2 on Jan 15, 2022 21:30:17 GMT
Darnell has been a friggin Donkey for Decades, his views don’t mean Jack spit, pathetic call by all involved, total b——poo poo by all involved.
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Post by iginla on Jan 15, 2022 21:48:59 GMT
Darnell has been a friggin Donkey for Decades, his views don’t mean Jack spit, pathetic call by all involved, total b——poo poo by all involved. From the videos I’ve seen it looked a good goal. |
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 15, 2022 21:54:25 GMT
The EIHL is unprofessional, everyone knows this already. But it has an M&S bag? Subtle. |
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Post by Yotes on Jan 15, 2022 21:57:04 GMT
On the overhead shot you can see some contact on the blocker, couldn't see that on the shot yesterday. Whether that's enough to disallow the goal I dunno.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 15, 2022 22:24:51 GMT
On the overhead shot you can see some contact on the blocker, couldn't see that on the shot yesterday. Whether that's enough to disallow the goal I dunno. There's very minimal contact no doubt, it's not enough for interference though. Terrible call imo, if it was against us in the same situ I'd be livid. Given it was Cardiff it's rather amusing, obviously. |
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Post by Yotes on Jan 15, 2022 22:50:08 GMT
Yes, you'd not be happy. Did they give the goal, then overturn it, or rule it out and then backup their own decision?
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 15, 2022 22:58:57 GMT
Yes, you'd not be happy. Did they give the goal, then overturn it, or rule it out and then backup their own decision? Gave the goal, Belfast whined, then found a reason to disallow it. A huge call in the battle for 2nd place. |
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Post by Yotes on Jan 15, 2022 23:02:21 GMT
Strange, normally expect them to back themselves if the evidence at all permits.
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Post by iginla on Jan 15, 2022 23:12:44 GMT
On the overhead shot you can see some contact on the blocker, couldn't see that on the shot yesterday. Whether that's enough to disallow the goal I dunno. That’s why Darnell said it was no goal. I’d say he was sticking up for his ex buddies. 🙄 |
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 16, 2022 12:51:24 GMT
Strange, normally expect them to back themselves if the evidence at all permits. The Giants' replay 'official' was trying his very hardest to convince the zebras. Bonus thoroughly earnt I'd say. Cardiff have missed a trick here, if you can't overspend on a player budget then pay the refs instead. It's not rocket science. |
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Post by langer on Jan 16, 2022 15:20:26 GMT
One of the two refs in the game British born and trained Liam Sewell spent five seasons with USA Hockey refereeing in the USHL,ECHL and AHL before returning to the UK and EIHL. The usual call from fans after they feel getting "cheated" as one in here put it or bought off tongue in cheek or not by a bad call is for officials from abroad imported to up the officiating standard, but here you have one involved who spent time abroad officiating in better leagues being called out.
I can imagine Todd Kelman involved in top league management absolutely cringing when he hears the coach he hired screaming about the league being an effing joke, I'm sure a quiet word with Skalde was in order as true as it might be.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 16, 2022 16:57:59 GMT
One of the two refs in the game British born and trained Liam Sewell spent five seasons with USA Hockey refereeing in the USHL,ECHL and AHL before returning to the UK and EIHL. The usual call from fans after they feel getting "cheated" as one in here put it or bought off tongue in cheek or not by a bad call is for officials from abroad imported to up the officiating standard, but here you have one involved who spent time abroad officiating in better leagues being called out. I can imagine Todd Kelman involved in top league management absolutely cringing when he hears the coach he hired screaming about the league being an effing joke, I'm sure a quiet word with Skalde was in order as true as it might be. Cheated would be rather a strong word for it, yes. Often used by the overly invested. |
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Post by iginla on Jan 16, 2022 17:01:35 GMT
One of the two refs in the game British born and trained Liam Sewell spent five seasons with USA Hockey refereeing in the USHL,ECHL and AHL before returning to the UK and EIHL. The usual call from fans after they feel getting "cheated" as one in here put it or bought off tongue in cheek or not by a bad call is for officials from abroad imported to up the officiating standard, but here you have one involved who spent time abroad officiating in better leagues being called out. I can imagine Todd Kelman involved in top league management absolutely cringing when he hears the coach he hired screaming about the league being an effing joke, I'm sure a quiet word with Skalde was in order as true as it might be. Cheated would be rather a strong word for it, yes. Often used by the overly invested. “Inept” would be a far more appropriate word to describe it one thinks. |
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Post by bobness on Jan 16, 2022 18:53:21 GMT
Well, no.
If ANY intentional contact is made that impedes the goalkeeper from making the save, that's goalie interference, and the goal should be disallowed.
Doesn't have to be a lot, just enough to change the goalie's ability to make the save, even by a little bit. You don't have to run him over, just a little counts. Whilst I hate to quote the actual rules, I will. Have a read, see what you think.
69.1. INTERFERENCE ON THE GOALKEEPER
This rule is based on the premise that an attacking Player’s position, whether inside or outside the Goal Crease, should not, by itself,
determine whether a goal should be allowed or disallowed. In other words, goals scored while attacking Players are standing in the
Goal Crease may, in appropriate circumstances be allowed.
Goals should be disallowed only if:
(I) an attacking Player, either by their positioning or by a "relevant contact”, impairs the Goalkeeper’s ability to move
freely within their Goal Crease or defend their goal; or
(II) an attacking Player initiates intentional or deliberate contact with a Goalkeeper, inside or outside of their Goal Crease.
“Incidental contact” with a Goalkeeper will be permitted, and resulting goals allowed, when such contact is initiated outside of the
Goal Crease, provided the attacking Player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.
The rule will be enforced exclusively in accordance with the on-ice judgement of the Referee(s), but may be subject to a Video
Review: ➔ Rule 37 – Video Review, when applicable or to a Coach’s Challenge ➔ Rule 38 – Coach’s Challenge.
For purposes of this rule, “contact / relevant contact” whether "incidental or otherwise", shall mean any contact that is made between
or among a Goalkeeper and attacking Player(s), whether by means of a stick or any part of the body. The overriding rationale of this
rule is that a Goalkeeper should have the ability to move freely within their Goal Crease without being hindered by the actions of an
attacking Player.
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