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Post by kievthegreat on Sept 26, 2021 21:43:14 GMT
I always like games against the Blaze. They got torn to shreds by Guildford couple of weeks back so it's possible to put a hat full past Motte. Hopefully another 2 points on the board without too much fuss or injuries.
Need some shooting practice in training this week to make our chances count.
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Post by wgray on Oct 1, 2021 15:32:23 GMT
Hopefully we get another entertaining game tomorrow, if it’s the same intensity as last week end I’ll be happy. I also hope the team have been practising their finishing this week as I think we’ll have to be clinical to beat Motte.
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Post by iginla on Oct 1, 2021 17:28:39 GMT
A webcast too.
Unfortunately it’s “just £15.00” again so no thanks !
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Post by bobness on Oct 1, 2021 17:30:02 GMT
A webcast too. Unfortunately it’s “just £15.00” again so no thanks ! What were you honestly expecting? £5? |
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Post by iginla on Oct 1, 2021 17:39:56 GMT
A webcast too. Unfortunately it’s “just £15.00” again so no thanks ! What were you honestly expecting? £5? In my opinion £8 is a fair price for a webcast. At £15 they are just taking the P. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 1, 2021 17:40:13 GMT
What were you honestly expecting? £5? Split the difference, at most. It's good that they're finally doing them though, and it appears to be a permanent addition. |
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Post by Pies on Oct 2, 2021 7:17:31 GMT
It appears the league is setting a flat 15 quid across the board for games. So I suppose that’s fair but only if the quality of broadcasts offered is the same.
Cardiff’s and Sheffield’s are light years ahead of say a Fife.
On to the game, I love these Blaze games. Proper rivalry and I think we’ll see a good game
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 2, 2021 8:30:12 GMT
What were you honestly expecting? £5? Split the difference, at most. It's good that they're finally doing them though, and it appears to be a permanent addition. This. £7.50-£10 is far more reasonable. £15 is a total joke for the casual fan whom is should be targeted for. |
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 2, 2021 10:05:13 GMT
It appears the league is setting a flat 15 quid across the board for games. So I suppose that’s fair but only if the quality of broadcasts offered is the same. Cardiff’s and Sheffield’s are light years ahead of say a Fife. On to the game, I love these Blaze games. Proper rivalry and I think we’ll see a good game Last week Fife weren't running their webcast. Nit sure if it was a one-off or permanent though. |
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Post by wgray on Oct 2, 2021 11:06:26 GMT
Looks like we’re going to have a decent crowd tonight, big following from the Blaze as well, hopefully the atmosphere is good and sets the tone of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 11:39:48 GMT
This 15 quid for a webcast thing. Never worth that eben if it cost a zillion quid to put on the production etc. They have to take into account the quality of play/standard as well. Should be 10 quid tops.
The counter argument is that they need it for income.. but then how did these teams manage before webcasts were a thing !
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Post by bobness on Oct 2, 2021 12:01:21 GMT
Some clearly think it is worth it though, or no-one would buy it and it'd quickly become a thing of the past.
Get a couple of mates round, chip in a fiver each, you can all watch it etc?
It'd be interesting to see the economics of webcasting games. I guess if you're videoing the game as a club anyway, with commentators in real time (as Panthers and most other teams do), can't you just webcast the live feed? Thus marginal cost of webcasting is effectively zero (or pretty close to) and any revenue you make is profit?
Am I missing something?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 12:06:29 GMT
I don't get all the moaning. The webcast is available for those that don't want to go to the game, or cannot go to the game. The price is what it is. If you don't like the price, you have the option not to pay, and don't watch it.
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Post by wannabe2 on Oct 2, 2021 14:00:28 GMT
This 15 quid for a webcast thing. Never worth that eben if it cost a zillion quid to put on the production etc. They have to take into account the quality of play/standard as well. Should be 10 quid tops. The counter argument is that they need it for income.. but then how did these teams manage before webcasts were a thing ! How did we manage without Mobile phones, howdid we manage without cars, they are there now and we have them. Don’t want one don’t buy one you can always say no. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 14:12:02 GMT
Some clearly think it is worth it though, or no-one would buy it and it'd quickly become a thing of the past. Get a couple of mates round, chip in a fiver each, you can all watch it etc? It'd be interesting to see the economics of webcasting games. I guess if you're videoing the game as a club anyway, with commentators in real time (as Panthers and most other teams do), can't you just webcast the live feed? Thus marginal cost of webcasting is effectively zero (or pretty close to) and any revenue you make is profit? Am I missing something? Yes you can. The costs come in the initial investment of equipment and paying people to operate them. a camera capable of filming and broadcasting a game of hockey is going to cost £2,000 minimum. If you factor that 4 cameras make a decent webcast then that’s £8,000 to start with. A professional camera operator will also want paying. The cost of the equipment to produce and broadcast a web feed can vary, but you’re looking at a minimum of £10,000 for something half decent that will allow a 4 camera feed, commentary, replays and ambient audio. As with anything, it’s not as simple as setting up a camera and there you go, there’s a lot of cost, especially initial investment in the correct equipment, that needs to be done first. While I personally feel £15 is too much, I’d wouldn’t be surprised if the break even price is around £10-£12 per view, per webcast. |
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Post by langer on Oct 2, 2021 15:32:30 GMT
If the break even price is around ten to twelve that's the price it should be in at least an attempt to market the EIHL to attract more fans to the sport. It's wannabe2's if you don't want it don't buy it attitude that's holds back this league from a higher profile, their marketing expertise has been and still is pretty much non existent.
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Post by iginla on Oct 2, 2021 15:45:03 GMT
Some clearly think it is worth it though, or no-one would buy it and it'd quickly become a thing of the past. Get a couple of mates round, chip in a fiver each, you can all watch it etc? It'd be interesting to see the economics of webcasting games. I guess if you're videoing the game as a club anyway, with commentators in real time (as Panthers and most other teams do), can't you just webcast the live feed? Thus marginal cost of webcasting is effectively zero (or pretty close to) and any revenue you make is profit? Am I missing something? Yes you can. The costs come in the initial investment of equipment and paying people to operate them. a camera capable of filming and broadcasting a game of hockey is going to cost £2,000 minimum. If you factor that 4 cameras make a decent webcast then that’s £8,000 to start with. A professional camera operator will also want paying. The cost of the equipment to produce and broadcast a web feed can vary, but you’re looking at a minimum of £10,000 for something half decent that will allow a 4 camera feed, commentary, replays and ambient audio. As with anything, it’s not as simple as setting up a camera and there you go, there’s a lot of cost, especially initial investment in the correct equipment, that needs to be done first. While I personally feel £15 is too much, I’d wouldn’t be surprised if the break even price is around £10-£12 per view, per webcast. So let’s say it costs up to an initial £20k for equipment to set it up,then if they sold 400 webcasts x £15 they’ve got their money back from only three or four broadcasts and this equipment would last for many years. Even more reason to suggest that £15 is way OTT I’d say. |
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 2, 2021 15:46:04 GMT
If the break even price is around ten to twelve that's the price it should be in at least an attempt to market the EIHL to attract more fans to the sport. It's wannabe2's if you don't want it don't buy it attitude that's holds back this league from a higher profile, their marketing expertise has been and still is pretty much non existent. Exactly. If the sport wants to grow then it should be doing more to attract new fans, this webcast at a fairer price was another opportunity missed. |
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Post by spik on Oct 2, 2021 18:25:15 GMT
Some clearly think it is worth it though, or no-one would buy it and it'd quickly become a thing of the past. Get a couple of mates round, chip in a fiver each, you can all watch it etc? It'd be interesting to see the economics of webcasting games. I guess if you're videoing the game as a club anyway, with commentators in real time (as Panthers and most other teams do), can't you just webcast the live feed? Thus marginal cost of webcasting is effectively zero (or pretty close to) and any revenue you make is profit? Am I missing something? I need to know who my friends are and if I am invited round. I don't pay for this because I fear (as always seems) they don't play well if at all sometimes and I don't know what to do to sort any errors out on the day. We are all not Wizz kids regards technology I'm afraid. Poor me. |
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Post by spik on Oct 2, 2021 18:29:27 GMT
Yes you can. The costs come in the initial investment of equipment and paying people to operate them. a camera capable of filming and broadcasting a game of hockey is going to cost £2,000 minimum. If you factor that 4 cameras make a decent webcast then that’s £8,000 to start with. A professional camera operator will also want paying. The cost of the equipment to produce and broadcast a web feed can vary, but you’re looking at a minimum of £10,000 for something half decent that will allow a 4 camera feed, commentary, replays and ambient audio. As with anything, it’s not as simple as setting up a camera and there you go, there’s a lot of cost, especially initial investment in the correct equipment, that needs to be done first. While I personally feel £15 is too much, I’d wouldn’t be surprised if the break even price is around £10-£12 per view, per webcast. So let’s say it costs up to an initial £20k for equipment to set it up,then if they sold 400 webcasts x £15 they’ve got their money back from only three or four broadcasts and this equipment would last for many years. Even more reason to suggest that £15 is way OTT I’d say. Looking forward to the price reduction in 3 years time then. |
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Post by Yotes on Oct 2, 2021 18:48:08 GMT
1-1 after 1. Tousignant and Ferrara with the goals.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 2, 2021 18:49:26 GMT
1-1 after 1. Tousignant and Ferrara with the goals. 12 shots on Motte 4 on Carr |
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Post by spik on Oct 2, 2021 19:00:00 GMT
1-1 after 1. Tousignant and Ferrara with the goals. 12 shots on Motte 4 on Carr 4-12 saved shots (sog 5-13) Coventry now ahead 1-2 (7-14 sog now) half the shots , twice the goals |
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Post by spik on Oct 2, 2021 19:29:32 GMT
Nottingham 2 Coventry 3 (after two)
Cardiff blank Guildford 0-3 away in the Cup
To start the third we will be down two men for 1mi 18 and then a further 1min 28 down as a 4 v 5.
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