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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2021 9:34:48 GMT
Stojanovic is currently the hot goalie, yes. What I find strange is the massive difference in shots against for each of them, behind the same defence. How you explain that I don't know. And you have to love Brust's retro brown leather pads and mitts? Weren’t there a couple of games against Panthers for Stojanovic where people on here were saying the shots on goal count was wildly inaccurate ? It could be his shot count that’s far too high.
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Post by DMS on Oct 29, 2021 10:21:48 GMT
Stojanovic is currently the hot goalie, yes. What I find strange is the massive difference in shots against for each of them, behind the same defence. How you explain that I don't know. And you have to love Brust's retro brown leather pads and mitts? Weren’t there a couple of games against Panthers for Stojanovic where people on here were saying the shots on goal count was wildly inaccurate ? It could be his shot count that’s far too high. The shot count has seemed wide of the mark every game this season for me. I know the gamecentre tracks attempts at goal and shots on target (or however it’s worded) but never in a million years does it seem accurate.
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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2021 11:05:50 GMT
Weren’t there a couple of games against Panthers for Stojanovic where people on here were saying the shots on goal count was wildly inaccurate ? It could be his shot count that’s far too high. The shot count has seemed wide of the mark every game this season for me. I know the gamecentre tracks attempts at goal and shots on target (or however it’s worded) but never in a million years does it seem accurate. Yep there’s no way the EIHL shot count is right. They’ve got Stojanovic facing about 240 shots from 6 games and and yet Brust only just over 100 shots from 5 games.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Oct 29, 2021 11:23:48 GMT
Brust's count will be slightly lower than it should be as he was replaced by Churchfield in one game. So there's an entire period of shots missing from one game.
And at least twice he's faced Panthers in that period. When our shot count at the start of the year was loooooow! So it's possible partly opposition. Facing Cardiff would put your shot count up (Rok) facing us not so much...
But even with that it's a head-scratcher.
But there is another explanation. Having played with him in practice maybe his team are even more defensive when he's playing because they don't trust him to have to make the big saves to bail then out? And when Rok plays they know they can play a more open game as they know he's more solid at the back? But you'd have to look at opposition, shots taken by Sheffield with each NM on the ice etc as well as shots faced to start to confirm that idea
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Post by bobness on Oct 29, 2021 12:15:47 GMT
In the league, Stojanovic has faced Cardiff, Coventry, Guildford and Dundee. 4 GP, 9 GA from 146 shots. The Cardiff SOG of 27 is the lowest. (Cardiff at home, the other 3 away) Brust is 12 from 67 in 3 league games, Fife, Guildford and Coventry, all at home.
Cup wise, 2 away games at the fabulous NIC and Manchester for Stojanovic, 6 GA from 94 shots (3 from 54 in the Panthers game alone!), while Brust has 4 from 43, in 5 periods of hockey over 2 games at home, vs Panthers and Storm. The contrast is incredible.
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 29, 2021 12:55:48 GMT
The shot count has seemed wide of the mark every game this season for me. I know the gamecentre tracks attempts at goal and shots on target (or however it’s worded) but never in a million years does it seem accurate. Yep there’s no way the EIHL shot count is right. You surprise me here, they have everything else so correct after all....
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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2021 14:18:45 GMT
Yep there’s no way the EIHL shot count is right. You surprise me here, they have everything else so correct after all.... Mmmmm Well there was also a Panthers netminder about 15 years ago who said to me his SOG count was never right. He reckoned it was always kept purposely low by the club to pull his save percentage down.
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Post by bobness on Oct 29, 2021 15:02:35 GMT
You surprise me here, they have everything else so correct after all.... Mmmmm Well there was also a Panthers netminder about 15 years ago who said to me his SOG count was never right. He reckoned it was always kept purposely low by the club to pull his save percentage down. To what end, though? Was he on a bonus if his SP hit a target? Did he re-sign for the same money? Maybe he thought he was a bit better than he really was?
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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2021 16:03:55 GMT
Mmmmm Well there was also a Panthers netminder about 15 years ago who said to me his SOG count was never right. He reckoned it was always kept purposely low by the club to pull his save percentage down. To what end, though? Was he on a bonus if his SP hit a target? Did he re-sign for the same money? Maybe he thought he was a bit better than he really was? Yes it was something to do with next years possible re signing negotiations but I can’t remember the exact details. That was CC his stats were actually very good despite what he felt was happening.
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Post by bobness on Oct 29, 2021 16:39:53 GMT
Weren't they just? You'd settle for those!
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Post by iginla on Oct 29, 2021 17:04:17 GMT
Weren't they just? You'd settle for those! In my opinion the most under rated goalie I’ve seen play for Panthers. His Panthers stats compare with anybody in the EIHL, although part of one season he did have virtually an NHL defence in front of him.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 1, 2021 17:08:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 17:23:21 GMT
Weren't they just? You'd settle for those! In my opinion the most under rated goalie I’ve seen play for Panthers. His Panthers stats compare with anybody in the EIHL, although part of one season he did have virtually an NHL defence in front of him. Let me guess Mr Cruikshank 😉
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2021 17:38:00 GMT
In my opinion the most under rated goalie I’ve seen play for Panthers. His Panthers stats compare with anybody in the EIHL, although part of one season he did have virtually an NHL defence in front of him. Let me guess Mr Cruikshank 😉 Yes mate. Two seasons at Nottingham and saves percentages of 92.4 and 93.5 % which is pretty damn good.
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Post by bobness on Nov 1, 2021 17:53:11 GMT
Let me guess Mr Cruikshank 😉 Yes mate. Two seasons at Nottingham and saves percentages of 92.4 and 93.5 % which is pretty damn good. You did give him a big clue with "CC".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 18:03:30 GMT
Let me guess Mr Cruikshank 😉 Yes mate. Two seasons at Nottingham and saves percentages of 92.4 and 93.5 % which is pretty damn good. Curtis seemed to be better the more shots he faced.. if some nights he only faced 20 odd shots he used to let soft ones in yet when he faced 50+ shots he was red hot .. obviously had a concentration problem. Blazer tried to sign him prior to him coming to Notts .
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2021 18:08:23 GMT
Yes mate. Two seasons at Nottingham and saves percentages of 92.4 and 93.5 % which is pretty damn good. You did give him a big clue with "CC". Pidge already knows CC was my fav.
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Post by jd on Nov 2, 2021 7:35:19 GMT
At least he’s honest….he has been brutal. Be interesting to see if his form improves over the next few games now that his injury has been properly treated
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Post by bobness on Nov 3, 2021 22:14:37 GMT
Gets his first shutout tonight. Granted, he'll have better, but nonetheless, it’s a shutout.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 8:09:23 GMT
Gets his first shutout tonight. Granted, he'll have better, but nonetheless, it’s a shutout. How many shots did he face? About 10?
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Post by iginla on Nov 4, 2021 8:43:04 GMT
Gets his first shutout tonight. Granted, he'll have better, but nonetheless, it’s a shutout. How many shots did he face? About 10? No....a massive 15 apparently. Lol 🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 11:05:42 GMT
How many shots did he face? About 10? No....a massive 15 apparently. Lol 🤣🤣 Wow not a bad guess and I genuinely haven't seen the game sheet! 🤣🤣
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Post by Yotes on Nov 4, 2021 11:10:17 GMT
15 shots was leading to 2 or 3 goals against for Barry, up until last night.
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Post by bobness on Nov 4, 2021 11:20:57 GMT
Gets his first shutout tonight. Granted, he'll have better, but nonetheless, it’s a shutout. How many shots did he face? About 10? Exactly 150% of that. The contrast in shots against for the 2 of them continues to be mystifyingly huge.
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Post by iginla on Nov 4, 2021 13:38:59 GMT
15 shots was leading to 2 or 3 goals against for Barry, up until last night. Smacks of a coach putting his under fire goalie in for what he knew would be an easy night ! 😉
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