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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 12, 2021 9:18:07 GMT
I think the market has just determined the price. The Brits seem to have been 'shared out' suspiciously well this season Whilst I see where you are coming from i'd argue if that's the case Panthers have the rough end of the deal. Our Brit pack is some way behind Cardiff for starters. It would take Perlini to put us anywhere close. I wasn't convinced by it last year to be honest
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Post by iginla on Aug 12, 2021 10:50:18 GMT
With the greatest of respect, I don't see Dundee, Fife and Storm having many "top end" Brits in their rosters just yet. Certainly not many of the actual GB team. The top Brits are mostly with the arena teams and Cardiff, pretty much as usual. Is that a fair observation? With the greatest of respect too,why would any top end Brits want or agree to play in Dundee with no chance of winning anything and saddle themselves with some very long bus trips. I live an hour north of Dundee and travelled back to Nottm last week and it took me eleven and a half hours,I wouldn’t want to do that then travel straight back and play again on the Sunday night !
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Post by bobness on Aug 12, 2021 14:25:32 GMT
By the same argument though, I'm a little surprised that Long is back in Belfast. (And I know it's a free country and I know nothing of his personal circumstances but, hypothetically...) Nearly a point a game player for Storm, 25 goals in 18/19, playing top line minutes, goes to Belfast, scores 2 in 48 games; has a terrific EIHL Series for Storm, now back at Giants, where I suspect he'll get nowhere near the ice time he'd get at Storm? As a sportsman, don't you want to *play*? Is it really all about money?
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Post by Jord v4 on Aug 12, 2021 14:42:53 GMT
Belfast pay significantly more than Manchester.
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Post by bobness on Aug 12, 2021 16:22:57 GMT
Belfast pay significantly more than Manchester. I can and do 100% believe that. Long went from a 25 goal season to a 2 goal season. As I've said, I don't know a thing about Long's situation or thought process but am just postulating.
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Post by Jord v4 on Aug 12, 2021 17:08:24 GMT
Belfast pay significantly more than Manchester. I can and do 100% believe that. Long went from a 25 goal season to a 2 goal season. As I've said, I don't know a thing about Long's situation or thought process but am just postulating. Oh I get you completely, yes. Just comes down to situations and wants of the player.
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Post by BigLad on Aug 12, 2021 22:54:33 GMT
Belfast pay significantly more than Manchester. I can and do 100% believe that. Long went from a 25 goal season to a 2 goal season. As I've said, I don't know a thing about Long's situation or thought process but am just postulating. Long also went from playing first line to playing third and fourth line.
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Post by bobness on Aug 13, 2021 6:30:55 GMT
I can and do 100% believe that. Long went from a 25 goal season to a 2 goal season. As I've said, I don't know a thing about Long's situation or thought process but am just postulating. Long also went from playing first line to playing third and fourth line. My point exactly.
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Post by Jord v4 on Aug 13, 2021 9:28:19 GMT
I can and do 100% believe that. Long went from a 25 goal season to a 2 goal season. As I've said, I don't know a thing about Long's situation or thought process but am just postulating. Long also went from playing first line to playing third and fourth line. Pure speculation here but Long went from Basingstoke to Storm to Giants.... I'm willing to bet the offer from the Giants blew Storm out of the water & Long logically takes it as the next step up. If it's a two year deal with the Giants as most Brit deals are then it will be interesting to see if he makes the move back to Storm next season.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Aug 14, 2021 11:22:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 11:42:40 GMT
Yes but who are they actually making a point to? Their owners form the make up of the league and they all agreed to shaft over the Brits so they need to share the blame
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Post by blackandgold73 on Aug 14, 2021 12:08:23 GMT
A) the fans who are starting threads to ask what the current import level is
B) anyone who thinks that it has changed since 2019/20
That's why this thread exists. To answer that question. Sounds like we've had further confirmation from this release
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Post by Yotes on Aug 14, 2021 12:37:18 GMT
Were we not allowed 14 imports in 19/20? And 22 man match night roster?
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Post by blackandgold73 on Aug 14, 2021 12:49:06 GMT
Were we not allowed 14 imports in 19/20? And 22 man match night roster? Actually I think you're right. I meant not changing from what it had supposed to be last year but didn't spot that. Apologies. The roster is 17+3 now right instead of 19+3? Guess Cardiff were making a different point: that any changing roster size won't impact their recruiting as they've done the same as they did before the changes. Maybe that's what they meant?
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Post by wgray on Aug 14, 2021 14:23:23 GMT
Were we not allowed 14 imports in 19/20? And 22 man match night roster? Actually I think you're right. I meant not changing from what it had supposed to be last year but didn't spot that. Apologies. The roster is 17+3 now right instead of 19+3? Guess Cardiff were making a different point: that any changing roster size won't impact their recruiting as they've done the same as they did before the changes. Maybe that's what they meant? The roster in 19/20 was 14 imports, 4 Over 25 Brits, 3 U25 Brits (14+5+3). The roster for the 20/21 season that we didn’t have was going to be 13+4+3, as the league stated here: www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/216-roster-regulations-changed-for-2020-21-seasonThe rules for 21/22 appear to be 14 imports and then only 5 brits, of any age, 19 players maximum on the bench. The league did well with their communication of how the rules were going to change for the 20/21 season, they also had the numbers set just right in my opinion. The league could correct their mistake if they were to allow teams to sign an U23 Brit, making it a roster of 20. The benefits would be great and the additional cost of one u23 Brit is minimal.
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Post by sevcik on Aug 16, 2021 17:39:15 GMT
Sheffield basically sticking 2 fingers up to the clubs in the league who voted for the 19 player game day size. What's the point of lowering roster sizes/Brit strength and claiming its because of costs if the richer clubs sign spare brits/imports? Doing that defeats the object. It would make more sense as I and others have said if teams were allowed to sign an extra Brit either an under 21 or 23 taking the roster size to 20. Costs would be minimal- certainly less so than signing 3 spare players of whatever nationality It's become clear to me that the reason the reduction in roster size wasn't formally announced is because the chairman of the league, despite what he said in the Star - doesn't agree with it. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2021 18:16:34 GMT
There's no such thing as a 22 man roster .. DS the BS will have included young kids on 2 way contracts.
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