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Post by bobness on Jun 1, 2021 10:00:08 GMT
I’d hope he could get a shot at the DEL. Good luck to him. Over potentially coming back to panthers ? Strange thing to say.. Like I said if panthers plan on winning anything then the must sign a player of Herr's quality or the man himself! I'd have him back here in a heartbeat, but I'd be disappointed too. He's clearly got more to offer than playing in this lil' old backwater. He's a cut or two above the average, no mistake. Same for Liam Kirk. I'd love to see him play in the EIHL, but he must be looking for (much) bigger and better now, to challenge himself. I agree, a "franchise" player would be ideal for a serious challenge. Be it a top notch goalie or an elite level forward (or two). There are plenty out there, Herr is not the only one.
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Post by shinobi on Jun 4, 2021 18:34:10 GMT
Over potentially coming back to panthers ? Strange thing to say.. Like I said if panthers plan on winning anything then the must sign a player of Herr's quality or the man himself! I'd have him back here in a heartbeat, but I'd be disappointed too. He's clearly got more to offer than playing in this lil' old backwater. He's a cut or two above the average, no mistake. Same for Liam Kirk. I'd love to see him play in the EIHL, but he must be looking for (much) bigger and better now, to challenge himself. I agree, a "franchise" player would be ideal for a serious challenge. Be it a top notch goalie or an elite level forward (or two). There are plenty out there, Herr is not the only one. Given Carr has joined, think Panthers need those elite forwards you mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 19:08:16 GMT
I'd have him back here in a heartbeat, but I'd be disappointed too. He's clearly got more to offer than playing in this lil' old backwater. He's a cut or two above the average, no mistake. Same for Liam Kirk. I'd love to see him play in the EIHL, but he must be looking for (much) bigger and better now, to challenge himself. I agree, a "franchise" player would be ideal for a serious challenge. Be it a top notch goalie or an elite level forward (or two). There are plenty out there, Herr is not the only one. Given Carr has joined, think Panthers need those elite forwards you mentioned. Exactly because as things stand they currently don't have any.. they are more like panthers version of the delucas and Eberles
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Post by calv on Jun 18, 2021 19:11:10 GMT
Herr signs in DEL2 for Pete Russell's side
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Post by iginla on Jun 18, 2021 20:09:27 GMT
Herr signs in DEL2 for Pete Russell's side Seriously. What are Panthers doing letting that happen ! 🙄
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Post by bobness on Jun 18, 2021 20:11:09 GMT
Surprised at this, to be honest. Herr ought to be above DEL2, I’d say. That level is comparable wages to EIHL?
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Post by bobness on Jun 18, 2021 20:11:48 GMT
Herr signs in DEL2 for Pete Russell's side Seriously. What are Panthers doing letting that happen ! 🙄 Maybe he just wants to play in Germany and/or not here?
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Post by iginla on Jun 18, 2021 20:42:47 GMT
Surprised at this, to be honest. Herr ought to be above DEL2, I’d say. That level is comparable wages to EIHL? DEL2 doesn’t pay what the EIHL does according to hockey salary expectations listed by various agencies.
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Post by jd on Jun 18, 2021 21:26:43 GMT
Seriously. What are Panthers doing letting that happen ! 🙄 Maybe he just wants to play in Germany and/or not here? That’s outrageous - how dare he?!
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Post by Yotes on Jun 18, 2021 22:30:41 GMT
Does seem a bit of a step down, would think he could play higher.
Be interesting to know what (if anything) Panthers offered him.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jun 19, 2021 7:09:12 GMT
Many players left EIHL teams do join DEL2 teams, Darcy Murphy, Hammond, Bulmer for example. So the wages must be bearable
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 19, 2021 9:29:18 GMT
Sam wanted to stay in Germany, Panthers didn't make an offer on this basis.
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Post by Bagheera on Jun 19, 2021 10:23:06 GMT
Many factors could come into it. The big benefit DEL2 offers is that you are a lot closer to the DEL. I'm sure DEL teams watch DEL2 teams a lot closer than they do the EIHL. Also if it goes really well yoy could get promoted up to the DEL(If they are back to that now, I believe they didn't do it a while back) Then you are in a much better league on probably better money.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 10:28:52 GMT
And this is the exact reason why panthers fail to build on anything ... They ain't desperate enough to keep quality players enough ...
Nobody tell me Herr's wage demands in the German 2nd tier are out of panthers reach
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Post by iginla on Jun 19, 2021 11:54:19 GMT
And this is the exact reason why panthers fail to build on anything ... They ain't desperate enough to keep quality players enough ... Nobody tell me Herr's wage demands in the German 2nd tier are out of panthers reach Spot on.
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Post by nightwish on Jun 19, 2021 12:16:31 GMT
I note the comments that people are surprised that if the wages are comparable that Herr has gone to DEL2 rather than Panthers. I wonder if Herr has quite a cosmopolitan outlook and wants to experience different countries, different cultures , rather than take the option of just staying with 1 team or several teams in 1 country.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the KHL at some point or in Sweden.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 19, 2021 14:53:01 GMT
I note the comments that people are surprised that if the wages are comparable that Herr has gone to DEL2 rather than Panthers. I wonder if Herr has quite a cosmopolitan outlook and wants to experience different countries, different cultures , rather than take the option of just staying with 1 team or several teams in 1 country. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the KHL at some point or in Sweden. What's this? Players being independent of thought & having preferred destinations? All it costs is enough money according to some.
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Post by pantherlee on Jun 19, 2021 15:14:59 GMT
I note the comments that people are surprised that if the wages are comparable that Herr has gone to DEL2 rather than Panthers. I wonder if Herr has quite a cosmopolitan outlook and wants to experience different countries, different cultures , rather than take the option of just staying with 1 team or several teams in 1 country. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the KHL at some point or in Sweden. What's this? Players being independent of thought & having preferred destinations? All it costs is enough money according to some. You would naturally think all Panthers have to do is match money offered and anyone would just come automatically despite whatever preferences or priorities they might have…
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 15:28:40 GMT
What's this? Players being independent of thought & having preferred destinations? All it costs is enough money according to some. You would naturally think all Panthers have to do is match money offered and anyone would just come automatically despite whatever preferences or priorities they might have… The difference is Cardiff and Sheffield don't have issues retaining their best players ! Perhaps they ain't very cosmopolitan and prefer just to stay in england eh.. dam why do panthers always sign those players who like to explore the European leagues eh?
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Post by iginla on Jun 19, 2021 15:52:14 GMT
You would naturally think all Panthers have to do is match money offered and anyone would just come automatically despite whatever preferences or priorities they might have… The difference is Cardiff and Sheffield don't have issues retaining their best players ! Perhaps they ain't very cosmopolitan and prefer just to stay in england eh.. dam why do panthers always sign those players who like to explore the European leagues eh? Or maybe it’s just because despite all the bull that gets spouted all is not as shiny and wonderful as some people would like to think in good old Pantherland.
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Post by Yotes on Jun 19, 2021 16:38:48 GMT
Sam wanted to stay in Germany, Panthers didn't make an offer on this basis. Isn't this his first year in Germany? I get that there's more to any decision than money, but for Herr Panthers would surely break the bank (building society), and at least give him something to seriously think about? Some games in his year was Sam Herr versus, rather than Nottingham. Oh well, they found him so hopefully they can find some others of his ilk.
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Post by bobness on Jun 19, 2021 17:01:10 GMT
I’d hope he could get a shot at the DEL. Good luck to him. Over potentially coming back to panthers ? Strange thing to say.. Like I said if panthers plan on winning anything then the must sign a player of Herr's quality or the man himself! We’ll, you’ve answered your own question there. Here’s to a player of Herr’s quality being signed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 17:42:40 GMT
Over potentially coming back to panthers ? Strange thing to say.. Like I said if panthers plan on winning anything then the must sign a player of Herr's quality or the man himself! We’ll, you’ve answered your own question there. Here’s to a player of Herr’s quality being signed. It's very unlikely another player of Herr's quality will come in hence why they should have offered a very good package to him which made it hard for him to turn down
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jun 19, 2021 18:19:40 GMT
Wages must be ok in Del2 though. Lausitze, Corey's old team, coming off a pretty poor season and not exactly a major drawer, sign Peter Quenneville from Rapid City, coming off a 68pts in 68 games season
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Post by Jord v4 on Jun 19, 2021 19:53:29 GMT
Sam wanted to stay in Germany, Panthers didn't make an offer on this basis. Isn't this his first year in Germany? I get that there's more to any decision than money, but for Herr Panthers would surely break the bank (building society), and at least give him something to seriously think about? Some games in his year was Sam Herr versus, rather than Nottingham. Oh well, they found him so hopefully they can find some others of his ilk. Yes, very fair point. Seems what I've been advised is just an excuse for not signing him then maybe. Although Innsbruck to Ravensburg isn't too far apart I guess. That's a nice part of Germany down there.
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