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Post by pantherlee on May 27, 2021 17:49:00 GMT
Nah, he's overrated by many. I'd take Whistle over him for an entire season. There's more there to work with. I'm not saying Bowns is crap, he's a decent keeper. Just not as good as many believe. Play whistle as your No1 for a season you ain't winning or even competing for a championship pal.. the recruitment has started off well then you'll undo it by signing JS .. he's a decent back up but I wouldn't want him to be relied upon over 50 odd games Tend to disagree. Whistle is 25 now and still improving. His form in the Elite Series showed how much he has come on and i think he is ready for a starting slot. When Bowns first got in it was seen as a gamble and now he's talked about as the best goalie in the EIHL. Whistle is too good to just warm the bench and one thing for sure is that he will never fulfil the potential he has if he's not going to be given the ice time. If he doesn't get the ice time then what's the point?
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Post by spik on May 27, 2021 17:59:38 GMT
We're getting into some kind of note book attention here.
Team Chara: The 17th team in this story consists of the giants of the game. There are TEN players who are at least 6’6”/1.97m tall in the tournament, which must be some sort of record! Here are the Mountain Men of Riga:
Stepan Falkovski (BLR)/6’9”-2.05m Marko Anttila (FIN) & Viktor Svedberg (KAZ)/6’8”-2.03m Mathias Bau (DEN) & Tage Thompson (USA)/6’7”-2.00m Oliver Lauridesen (DEN), Joshua Tetlow (GBR), Kristian Ostby (NOR), Brian Boyle (USA)/6’6”-1.97m
Leading goal scorers...KIRK =1st and HAMMOND =20th Leading assists...DOWD =8th and RICHARDSON =26th Leading points scorers...KIRK =11th Leading Face Off...MYERS 5th and HAMMOND 28th Leading +/-...not in top 32 Leading +/- …CONNOLLY/PHILLIPS.D =11th and HOOK 15th, KIRK/LAKE =22nd
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 18:06:58 GMT
Play whistle as your No1 for a season you ain't winning or even competing for a championship pal.. the recruitment has started off well then you'll undo it by signing JS .. he's a decent back up but I wouldn't want him to be relied upon over 50 odd games Tend to disagree. Whistle is 25 now and still improving. His form in the Elite Series showed how much he has come on and i think he is ready for a starting slot. When Bowns first got in it was seen as a gamble and now he's talked about as the best goalie in the EIHL. Whistle is too good to just warm the bench and one thing for sure is that he will never fulfil the potential he has if he's not going to be given the ice time. If he doesn't get the ice time then what's the point? Yeah but has whistle been a starter elsewhere. I think if he went to say Dundee and was their No1 similar to when Bowns had a season in Hull would help him. Not sure if he split ice time when he was in Sheffield without looking up at his record It's not to say I don't rate whistle there's just something nagging at me regarding giving him the No1 berth over a full season
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Post by pantherlee on May 27, 2021 18:24:33 GMT
Tend to disagree. Whistle is 25 now and still improving. His form in the Elite Series showed how much he has come on and i think he is ready for a starting slot. When Bowns first got in it was seen as a gamble and now he's talked about as the best goalie in the EIHL. Whistle is too good to just warm the bench and one thing for sure is that he will never fulfil the potential he has if he's not going to be given the ice time. If he doesn't get the ice time then what's the point? Yeah but has whistle been a starter elsewhere. I think if he went to say Dundee and was their No1 similar to when Bowns had a season in Hull would help him. Not sure if he split ice time when he was in Sheffield without looking up at his record It's not to say I don't rate whistle there's just something nagging at me regarding giving him the No1 berth over a full season He was starter for that season in Sheffield and the year before that with Belfast
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 18:26:52 GMT
Yeah but has whistle been a starter elsewhere. I think if he went to say Dundee and was their No1 similar to when Bowns had a season in Hull would help him. Not sure if he split ice time when he was in Sheffield without looking up at his record It's not to say I don't rate whistle there's just something nagging at me regarding giving him the No1 berth over a full season He was starter for that season in Sheffield and the year before that with Belfast Why didn't they retain him.. demanding too much or simply that they didn't think he had what he took. There's no guarantee he'll be back at panthers yet lol
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Post by spik on May 27, 2021 18:28:16 GMT
Tend to disagree. Whistle is 25 now and still improving. His form in the Elite Series showed how much he has come on and i think he is ready for a starting slot. When Bowns first got in it was seen as a gamble and now he's talked about as the best goalie in the EIHL. Whistle is too good to just warm the bench and one thing for sure is that he will never fulfil the potential he has if he's not going to be given the ice time. If he doesn't get the ice time then what's the point? Yeah but has whistle been a starter elsewhere. I think if he went to say Dundee and was their No1 similar to when Bowns had a season in Hull would help him. Not sure if he split ice time when he was in Sheffield without looking up at his record It's not to say I don't rate whistle there's just something nagging at me regarding giving him the No1 berth over a full season WHISTLE AT SHEEFIELD Season 18/19 17th position on 'starter minders' re save % www.steelersstats.co.uk/total_net.htmBroken down www.steelersstats.co.uk/netminders/19.htmJust to add for a bit of fun www.iihf.com/en/events/2021/wm/news/25929/power_rankings_27_may
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Post by Jord v4 on May 27, 2021 19:36:04 GMT
Nah, he's overrated by many. I'd take Whistle over him for an entire season. There's more there to work with. I'm not saying Bowns is crap, he's a decent keeper. Just not as good as many believe. Play whistle as your No1 for a season you ain't winning or even competing for a championship pal.. the recruitment has started off well then you'll undo it by signing JS .. he's a decent back up but I wouldn't want him to be relied upon over 50 odd games I'm not advocating either as a starter tbh, I'd rather we went with an elite import nettie and have Whistle as the 1.5.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 20:08:39 GMT
Play whistle as your No1 for a season you ain't winning or even competing for a championship pal.. the recruitment has started off well then you'll undo it by signing JS .. he's a decent back up but I wouldn't want him to be relied upon over 50 odd games I'm not advocating either as a starter tbh, I'd rather we went with an elite import nettie and have Whistle as the 1.5. My thoughts the same
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Post by DonClaneone on May 28, 2021 8:40:09 GMT
Long time, no chat
Very good performances from Great Britain so far. That Belarus game was a perfect example of good hockey, shouldn't have been close scorewise. At 4-1 we looked comfortable but then Ehrhardt made that mistake with the tap behind which led to Belarus getting their 2nd goal. Apart from that I couldn't see anything else wrong.
We're up against Sweden today and I'm not expecting result wise, it's going to be a tough game and I see a similar score to the Russia game. We are lucky there's no relegation this year, due to the Divisions below not playing but we've already surpassed our points total from 2019, plus not to mention improvement on results against 2 teams we played, 7-1 against Slovakia 2 years ago and in 2021 we only lose 2-1. Denmark skelped us sill 9-0 in 2019 but this year we took them to OT but lost 3-2. It's progress and I hope we can use this experience to stay up next year when relegation will surely be back.
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Post by spik on May 28, 2021 13:47:22 GMT
v Sweden
I knew when those refs were skating out they looked good. lol Regardless we are playing well. The goal was a goal but we did intervene with the goalie, but not our fault. Good call. Playing out of our skin. Mix that all game with their poor efforts and we can do well but pity we are not going in one up.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 13:58:19 GMT
Still scratching my head how that was a goal .. understand Rakell caught Connelly but sliding into Fasth preventing him to stop it ..
Apart from that, it's been a Swedish pp for 19 mins !
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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 28, 2021 14:11:09 GMT
www.expressen.se/sport/hockey/tar-forsta-segern-i-vm-pa-59--ar/Taken from the Express online report from Sweden. The same people who reported Kirk's possible move to Sweden. You would never have guessed that the Swedes like the way GB play !! 'The year was 1962 when Great Britain soaped up Finland 7-5 in the Hockey World Cup, a great achievement for the relatively small hockey nation, of course. Then a long wait began. Until Wednesday night, it was the Briton's latest World Cup victory in regular time. Then suddenly it was time again. Joy knew no bounds after the team won 4-3 against Belarus, this after two goals from Liam Kirk. "It's wonderful to see this team. They play so wonderfully disrespectful. They do things that you don't normally see in this well-coached World Cup," svt expert Jonas Andersson says in the broadcast.Boast a jackpot for Sweden With Tre Kronor's position in the World Cup group, the giant roar was welcome to say the least. "This is a result that is really in Sweden's favour," andersson says. Tre Kronor previously lost to Belarus, but has raised hopes of progress after the 7-0 crush against Switzerland the other day. Great Britain's victory means that the team is sixth in the table, one point ahead of Sweden who have one game less played.' YOU MAY ALSO BE INTERESTED IN
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Post by spik on May 28, 2021 14:53:16 GMT
Let's be honest, we were under the cosh there in the 2nd, as excited we can get about us doing well. Not expected to win but I'd love to se us hard behind on the score line if not taking it to OT regardless of how much the underdogs or behind play we are. Great spirit all through the championships so far.
Canada doing a 'swede' from last night letting the Kazakhs back in 2-2 so far.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 14:58:30 GMT
Hope they will be buying Bowns drinks for their duration of their stay lol
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Post by spik on May 28, 2021 15:49:37 GMT
Scored in every game. No mega scores against us because its been a vast improvement on the past.
Still in there not to finish last and have what would have been a bottom draw against someone in the other league B. Happy about how things have gone and I know they will be too.
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Post by bobness on May 28, 2021 16:21:04 GMT
Still scratching my head how that was a goal .. understand Rakell caught Connelly but sliding into Fasth preventing him to stop it .. Apart from that, it's been a Swedish pp for 19 mins ! Not seen it yet, but the thought seems to be that if Connolly was fouled, then what he does as a result of that isn't his fault, so he can't be called for it. Rule 150 apparently. If an attacking player has been pushed, shoved, or fouled by a defending player so as to cause him to come into contact with the goaltender, such contact will not be deemed contact initiated by the attacking player for purposes of this rule, provided the attacking player has made a reasonable effort to avoid such contact.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 29, 2021 12:53:13 GMT
GB lose 6-1 to Czech Rep. Whistle got the start and made some good stops, but picked up an injury and Bowns took over with about 10mins left. The Czechs look contenders, moving the puck quickly and starving opponents of possession. The short turn around took it's toll on GB and they will be thankful of the rest b4 playing Switzerland on Tuesday.
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Post by Yotes on Jun 1, 2021 10:35:44 GMT
Not watching, but seem to have fallen apart a bit in this one. 2-2 to 6-2 down in 8 minutes.
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Post by Yotes on Jun 1, 2021 11:28:09 GMT
6-3 finish, Whistle in for the third.
Have to hope Russia turn over Belarus to keep us out of last place.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 11:32:13 GMT
6-3 finish, Whistle in for the third. Have to hope Russia turn over Belarus to keep us out of last place. Italy already finished last as they haven’t scored a point yet and their last game today is against USA! if Russia beat Belarus in regulation GB will finish 7th in the group and would avoid relegation if there was any this tournament.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jun 1, 2021 11:56:52 GMT
6-3 finish, Whistle in for the third. Have to hope Russia turn over Belarus to keep us out of last place. I'd be very suspicious if Russia managed not to beat Belarus.
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Post by John Casey on Jun 1, 2021 18:13:44 GMT
Not watching, but seem to have fallen apart a bit in this one. 2-2 to 6-2 down in 8 minutes. Yeah I think their heads dipped after Switzerland got their 3rd goal, goals 2&3 can be considered very fortunate but they took the shots. TBH, before all that, I wasn't really rating Switzerland and was actually thinking we can pull something off.
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Post by Yotes on Jun 1, 2021 18:17:40 GMT
6-3 finish, Whistle in for the third. Have to hope Russia turn over Belarus to keep us out of last place. I'd be very suspicious if Russia managed not to beat Belarus. No need to worry, 5-0 after the first.
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Post by John Casey on Jun 1, 2021 18:28:16 GMT
Last time after the U.S.A game, I got bored of the tournament and skipped all the games until the game that really mattered which was The France game.
This time around, even though some nations put up a lot of shots and scored a few goals, we played hard and TBH, made teams earn it.
Based on this year's tournament, I'd say there are more nations who we can be competitive against and may get something from those games. I reckon that we may get something from games against Slovakia, Denmark, Belarus, Italy, Kazakhstan and maybe Latvia (If they are not hosts)
Against the top nations however, they have got to find a way of clearing our zone more quickly without taking penalties, which will then lead more regular Line Changes which may result in less shots being rained on our Goalies.
Our forwards also have to get more shots on the opposition Goalies instead of waiting too long or doing that extra pass. As Switzerland proved, you could get something if you shoot.
Kirk and Bowns are getting picked up by top leagues, Tetlow also maybe, not sure who else.
Could Neilson and Keefe be looked at also.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2021 19:50:39 GMT
Last time after the U.S.A game, I got bored of the tournament and skipped all the games until the game that really mattered which was The France game. This time around, even though some nations put up a lot of shots and scored a few goals, we played hard and TBH, made teams earn it. Based on this year's tournament, I'd say there are more nations who we can be competitive against and may get something from those games. I reckon that we may get something from games against Slovakia, Denmark, Belarus, Italy, Kazakhstan and maybe Latvia (If they are not hosts) Against the top nations however, they have got to find a way of clearing our zone more quickly without taking penalties, which will then lead more regular Line Changes which may result in less shots being rained on our Goalies. Our forwards also have to get more shots on the opposition Goalies instead of waiting too long or doing that extra pass. As Switzerland proved, you could get something if you shoot. Kirk and Bowns are getting picked up by top leagues, Tetlow also maybe, not sure who else. Could Neilson and Keefe be looked at also. Depends on your definition of top leagues! I doubt Tetlow will tbh even though he's done well.. Even though GB have surpassed all expectations let's not get ahead of ourselves
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