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Post by blackandgold73 on May 4, 2021 10:42:26 GMT
Get the impression he's probably pretty happy in Norway but was nice to see how much winning meant to him in his interview and how much he'd enjoyed himself. However, with Elite Prospects having him listed as signing on a three year contract with Stjernen that's a lot of security for any player to walk away from.
That said, he'd only be 29 in three years time....
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Post by Wolves 66 on May 4, 2021 10:44:07 GMT
Florida dad - Whilst I wouldn't expect you to comment on any speculation that Austin might still sign for Nottingham, it would be great to hear your view on any difference in standard between what you saw in the Elite series and the Norwegian league
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 11:39:26 GMT
You never know, players backing out of contracts isn't unheard of as we well know. Can't see it happening, but perhaps after 5 weeks in Nottingham his head could be turned with the right offer on the table. We also have the bonus of being English speaking. I'll be really honest I know little of the Norwegian league. How much better is it than the EIHL? Im guessing it's not miles ahead with these guys happy to pop over here. It's not like all of them that came and tore it up. I cant see it actually happening but we can live in hope. The two top sides would be beating eihl teams 8 times out of 10 the rest ain't that much better overall ..it's the skill level and technical ability which is streets ahead.
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Post by kievthegreat on May 4, 2021 12:20:09 GMT
Florida dad - Whilst I wouldn't expect you to comment on any speculation that Austin might still sign for Nottingham, it would be great to hear your view on any difference in standard between what you saw in the Elite series and the Norwegian league I'd also take the opportunity to say goodbye to Florida Dad as I doubt there's anything to keep him visiting anymore. It was nice to have some fresh eyes on a tired forum. That said, maybe he'll log back on in 3 years when Cangelosi returns...
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Post by floridadad on May 4, 2021 12:31:46 GMT
The hockey that was played in the Elite series playoffs was very close to the level of hockey played in Norway. What I noticed was that play in the Eihl is much more physical then Norway. Tough to gauge the play during the round Robin since guys were at various degrees of fitness. Norway does place a huge emphasis on skating. There are a number of EIHL players that would do quite well in Norway. I can honestly say that watching the Panthers grow into the team that they became was fascinating. I was not so sure in the early part of the series but boy did they turn it around. The five biggest things that i feel turned the season around were: 1) Goaltending- Tendys win or lose you championships 2) the maturation of the d Corp. Raw early they became the best d crop in the league. Tetlow became a force and the leadership of Matheson and Ellis pulled the group together 3) Perlini's return. Perlini coming back allowed Wallace to create 3 scoring lines. And balance is always the key to offence 4) Owen Griffiths. The grit and energy he brought to Dineen and Cangelosi was the kick in the ass they needed in the playoffs. 5) Respect. The players bought into team play and it showed. It appeared they all respected each other and believed I. Each other. To see what winning this meant to my son showed me how much he enjoyed his time in Nottingham and playing with as he put it the best group he has ever been on a team with. As far as Norway goes it truly is the land of make believe. Never thought Austin would find a home there in his hockey career but the style of play and the country suits him.
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Post by messier1851 on May 4, 2021 13:00:22 GMT
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2021 13:02:46 GMT
The hockey that was played in the Elite series playoffs was very close to the level of hockey played in Norway. What I noticed was that play in the Eihl is much more physical then Norway. Tough to gauge the play during the round Robin since guys were at various degrees of fitness. Norway does place a huge emphasis on skating. There are a number of EIHL players that would do quite well in Norway. I can honestly say that watching the Panthers grow into the team that they became was fascinating. I was not so sure in the early part of the series but boy did they turn it around. The five biggest things that i feel turned the season around were: 1) Goaltending- Tendys win or lose you championships 2) the maturation of the d Corp. Raw early they became the best d crop in the league. Tetlow became a force and the leadership of Matheson and Ellis pulled the group together 3) Perlini's return. Perlini coming back allowed Wallace to create 3 scoring lines. And balance is always the key to offence 4) Owen Griffiths. The grit and energy he brought to Dineen and Cangelosi was the kick in the ass they needed in the playoffs. 5) Respect. The players bought into team play and it showed. It appeared they all respected each other and believed I. Each other. To see what winning this meant to my son showed me how much he enjoyed his time in Nottingham and playing with as he put it the best group he has ever been on a team with. As far as Norway goes it truly is the land of make believe. Never thought Austin would find a home there in his hockey career but the style of play and the country suits him. That would suggest then that normal EIHL standard is at least as good as the Norwegian league bearing in mind that each team in the Elite series was four imports down on the normal EIHL league. Lose the lower quality Brits from each team and substitute four AHL or ECHL quality imports and that’s the normal level of the EIHL.
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Post by wannabe2 on May 4, 2021 13:44:54 GMT
Wasnt our import level at the last season 13, therefore being 5 imports down.
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2021 15:53:28 GMT
Wasnt our import level at the last season 13, therefore being 5 imports down. You’re right it was 13 imports last season. So the EIHL is maybe even better than Norway. Be interesting to see how Champions League stats compare for the two leagues.
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Post by bobness on May 4, 2021 16:27:47 GMT
You never know, players backing out of contracts isn't unheard of as we well know. Can't see it happening, but perhaps after 5 weeks in Nottingham his head could be turned with the right offer on the table. We also have the bonus of being English speaking. I'll be really honest I know little of the Norwegian league. How much better is it than the EIHL? Im guessing it's not miles ahead with these guys happy to pop over here. It's not like all of them that came and tore it up. I cant see it actually happening but we can live in hope. The two top sides would be beating eihl teams 8 times out of 10 the rest ain't that much better overall ..it's the skill level and technical ability which is streets ahead. Having actually watched a Norwegian league game in the flesh (Manglerud, which is a rink down an unpromising side street in a residential area. I thought I'd got off the metro at the wrong stop it was so quiet...) I'm not sure I'd 100% agree. As floridadad says, the league is not quite as physical, and maybe a little faster than we've seen in this series. It suits smaller, quicker skaters. You get far less time on the puck in Norway than the EIHL, I'd say. As to how that would translate into who would beat who, that's guesswork at best. I'd bet on the arena teams bringing it home the majority of the time. But, as I say, guesswork. What has to be said is that there hasn't been a lot of cross pollination between the EIHL and the Norwegian league in the past, before this season. Look through the last few years of Norwegian league players and you don't see many familiar names. Drew Schiestel Dylan Richard (both featured in the game I saw) Nicolai Brynisveen John Negrin Sean McMonagle Jens Jakobs Some of them did not set the EIHL alight, shall we say. Slim pickings considering the amount of players we get over here from DEL2, Denmark, France, Slovakia and the Allsvenskan lately.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 16:40:36 GMT
It's mainly a home grown national dominated league though hence why the norwegian national team is top tier and competes at the olympics etc. They don't have rosters littered with imports .
Ideally I want to see this league drop to 10 imports max to start with
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 16:42:57 GMT
Wasnt our import level at the last season 13, therefore being 5 imports down. You’re right it was 13 imports last season. So the EIHL is maybe even better than Norway. Be interesting to see how Champions League stats compare for the two leagues. The EIHL is currently ranked 3 places higher than Norway in the CHL Rankings. EIHL is 8th, Norwegian League is 11th. www.championshockeyleague.com/en/rankings
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Post by floridadad on May 4, 2021 17:04:35 GMT
I have watched countless Get Ligaen games and I would tend to say the leagues are close but would say the Get Ligaen is a bit more skilled.
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Post by bobness on May 4, 2021 17:34:49 GMT
That's it! They're a bank aren't they? I couldn't blinking remember... And it turns out it's changed now anyway. Double .
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Post by SteelerBlade on May 4, 2021 17:45:52 GMT
You guys turned Stavanger over a few years back if I remember right, although was pre season so maybe can’t read too much into it.
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Post by wannabe2 on May 4, 2021 18:10:41 GMT
Isn’t Stavanger in the 2nd tier, Joey Martin was there before the league cancelled, Or were they then in the top tier.
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Post by kievthegreat on May 4, 2021 18:42:29 GMT
Isn’t Stavanger in the 2nd tier, Joey Martin was there before the league cancelled, Or were they then in the top tier. Stavanger Oilers are in the top tier. I believe they are one of the big clubs in the league too. Looking on Elite Prospects they seemed to be top of the standing before Covid last year with 113 points from 45 games, 23 clear of 2nd place. They also seemed to have a run of 6 consecutive titles in the middle of the last decade.
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2021 18:55:07 GMT
I have watched countless Get Ligaen games and I would tend to say the leagues are close but would say the Get Ligaen is a bit more skilled. We aren’t disagreeing with you. Just saying that the Elite series you’ve just watched is not a true picture of the level of the British Elite League. In this series teams were only allowed 8 imports where as in the normal league they are allowed 13 imports. So basically the quality of the series just played is below normal, a whole forward line and a pair of D men below normal. That’s a fair old difference.
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Post by floridadad on May 4, 2021 19:00:25 GMT
That is a fair statement. I really think that the hockey was quite good in the series. Little surprised you allow so many imports. Austin tells me that the quota this year in Norway is only 5 imports. I do think that if the EIHl and the Get Ligaen played a series against each other with all the top players playing it would be a battle till the end.
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Post by pantherlee on May 4, 2021 19:10:01 GMT
That is a fair statement. I really think that the hockey was quite good in the series. Little surprised you allow so many imports. Austin tells me that the quota this year in Norway is only 5 imports. I do think that if the EIHl and the Get Ligaen played a series against each other with all the top players playing it would be a battle till the end. The import level is so much higher as the domestic talent pool in UK is nowhere as deep as it is in Norway
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Post by iginla on May 4, 2021 19:33:09 GMT
Isn’t Stavanger in the 2nd tier, Joey Martin was there before the league cancelled, Or were they then in the top tier. Stavanger Oilers are in the top tier. I believe they are one of the big clubs in the league too. Looking on Elite Prospects they seemed to be top of the standing before Covid last year with 113 points from 45 games, 23 clear of 2nd place. They also seemed to have a run of 6 consecutive titles in the middle of the last decade. It was two years ago they played each other and it ended up Nottingham Panthers 5 v Stavanger Oiler’s 3
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