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Post by fishman on Mar 10, 2021 13:57:59 GMT
I'm not sure I get the Ben Bowns trade/pick, Pathers have GB no2 keeper in the team (protected) is this for next season. Bowns says about Doucet "He's a friend of mine and I'm really excited to come and work for him now, and to be a part of the organisation in Nottingham. I hope they enjoy having me as much as I'll enjoy being a part of them."
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Post by Yotes on Mar 10, 2021 14:35:39 GMT
Can't imagine Pete Russell was over the moon about it.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 10, 2021 14:50:50 GMT
Hewitt was a reasonable Elite League British forward, 10 years ago. I don't think you can judge much from playing on the best team in a largely amateur tournament, or the cricket scores he's put up in recent years for Hull.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 15:15:17 GMT
Which WC games would you exactly be starting Whistle in? Because it won't be against the Russians that would be beyond embarrassing. He's a back up at best .. just relax with this he should be No1 business. Doucet brought Bowns in because he clearly rates him higher than whistle and he's taking this series serious
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 10, 2021 15:15:52 GMT
I'm not sure I get the Ben Bowns trade/pick, Pathers have GB no2 keeper in the team (protected) is this for next season. Bowns says about Doucet "He's a friend of mine and I'm really excited to come and work for him now, and to be a part of the organisation in Nottingham. I hope they enjoy having me as much as I'll enjoy being a part of them." Bowns = Starter for Panthers 2021/22 season (or the current love-in between everyone there is a wicked ruse )
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 10, 2021 15:16:26 GMT
Which WC games would you exactly be starting Whistle in? Because it won't be against the Russians that would be beyond embarrassing. He's a back up at best .. just relax with this he should be No1 business. Doucet brought Bowns in because he clearly rates him higher than whistle and he's taking this series serious I bet he is cheaper too
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Post by Yotes on Mar 10, 2021 15:59:24 GMT
Which WC games would you exactly be starting Whistle in? Because it won't be against the Russians that would be beyond embarrassing. He's a back up at best .. just relax with this he should be No1 business. Doucet brought Bowns in because he clearly rates him higher than whistle and he's taking this series serious I probably wouldn't start him at all, I don't think anyone has suggested they would. This series was mooted as a tune up for the World Championships, having both Brit netminders playing in the games would be advantageous to that.
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 10, 2021 17:00:53 GMT
It's worth remembering that Bowns has only been able to start 13 games in 12 months. If there are no trades, I expect him to play 6 or 7 regular games plus all the playoff games. Playing more in 5 weeks seems overkill. Should give 5 or 6 starts to Whistle.
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Post by John Casey on Mar 10, 2021 17:21:02 GMT
Appears that The Taxi Squads are to be included into the full squads therefore making them available anytime.
I'm guessing the 4 teams want to take a proper in game look into these players especially if there are meaningless games at the end and they don't have to fake injuries.
Sheffield have made their final pick, it was a player remaining in the pool
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Post by iginla on Mar 10, 2021 22:59:19 GMT
So have they announced yet how much the webcasts of these games are going to cost ?
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Post by Yotes on Mar 11, 2021 0:09:04 GMT
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Post by iginla on Mar 11, 2021 0:17:49 GMT
At least three games a week ! 😳😳
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Post by Discoray on Mar 11, 2021 11:02:14 GMT
Nope. 24 games in 23 (?) days, will be interesting to see how they schedule it. Hope I'm wrong, but going from nothing in year to blowing through 24 games in a touch over 3 weeks sounds like a recipe for injuries.
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Post by Jord v4 on Mar 11, 2021 11:05:08 GMT
Nope. 24 games in 23 (?) days, will be interesting to see how they schedule it. Hope I'm wrong, but going from nothing in year to blowing through 24 games in a touch over 3 weeks sounds like a recipe for injuries. Hence Bowns & Whistle being an excellent plan...
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Post by Jord v4 on Mar 11, 2021 11:06:09 GMT
I'm not sure I get the Ben Bowns trade/pick, Pathers have GB no2 keeper in the team (protected) is this for next season. Bowns says about Doucet "He's a friend of mine and I'm really excited to come and work for him now, and to be a part of the organisation in Nottingham. I hope they enjoy having me as much as I'll enjoy being a part of them." Check out the schedule, it's actually a great move to get two 'reliable' & known keepers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 11:22:00 GMT
Perhaps Doucet is more wise than alot think. The amount questioning him why he drafted Bowns when he's already got Whistle 🙈
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 11, 2021 11:36:13 GMT
Perhaps Doucet is more wise than alot think. The amount questioning him why he drafted Bowns when he's already got Whistle 🙈 Especially people saying he shouldn't have protected Whistle if he was trading for Bowns. The only other player he could have protected was Kelsall and he picked him up with the 5th round pick anyway. Whistle is far more valuable than Kelsall.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Mar 11, 2021 12:53:06 GMT
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Post by fishman on Mar 11, 2021 21:53:01 GMT
Ben Bowns not returning Graz99 "The first personnel decisions have been made, Those responsible at Moser Medical Graz have already made the first decisions. Ben Bowns, Joel Broda, Johan Porsberger and Travis Oleksuk have to leave the Graz99ers"
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Post by messier1851 on Mar 12, 2021 10:18:39 GMT
Ben Bowns not returning Graz99 "The first personnel decisions have been made, Those responsible at Moser Medical Graz have already made the first decisions. Ben Bowns, Joel Broda, Johan Porsberger and Travis Oleksuk have to leave the Graz99ers" They're all welcome to join us too.
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Post by bobness on Mar 12, 2021 10:50:04 GMT
Just pointing a fact out, that Whistle had exactly the same save % as Carr last year (in all competitive games) and a better GAA. Carr had the second best GAA in the league and third best save %. What you would or would not do with Bowns/Whistle is up to you. My opinion is that Whistle is a better goalie than he gets credited for by a lot of people.
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 12, 2021 13:00:55 GMT
Just pointing a fact out, that Whistle had exactly the same save % as Carr last year (in all competitive games) and a better GAA. Carr had the second best GAA in the league and third best save %. What you would or would not do with Bowns/Whistle is up to you. My opinion is that Whistle is a better goalie than he gets credited for by a lot of people. Also worth pointing out that Whistle had easier starts overall. Carr started against the top 4 (Devils, Steelers, Blaze and Giants) 22 times in all competitions - 18 league, 4 cup. Whistles started just 4 against the top. Whistle also had 30% of his starts (4/13) against bottom of the table flyers. He also never faces the Devils or Giants at all. That's not to say he's rubbish, but that comparing a starter and his understudy's save percentage is not apples to apples.
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Post by bobness on Mar 12, 2021 13:41:13 GMT
Just pointing a fact out, that Whistle had exactly the same save % as Carr last year (in all competitive games) and a better GAA. Carr had the second best GAA in the league and third best save %. What you would or would not do with Bowns/Whistle is up to you. My opinion is that Whistle is a better goalie than he gets credited for by a lot of people. Also worth pointing out that Whistle had easier starts overall. Carr started against the top 4 (Devils, Steelers, Blaze and Giants) 22 times in all competitions - 18 league, 4 cup. Whistles started just 4 against the top. Whistle also had 30% of his starts (4/13) against bottom of the table flyers. He also never faces the Devils or Giants at all. That's not to say he's rubbish, but that comparing a starter and his understudy's save percentage is not apples to apples. Fair dos. In the games played vs the "Big 4" (notwithstanding Whistle never faced Devils or Giants), Carr went 91.18%, 3.01 GAA, Whistle was 90.52%, 2.78. Vs Fife, Whistle was 4 GPI, 90.57%, 2.54. Carr had 2 games vs Fife, 89.13% and 2.50 GAA. Vs Storm, Whistle was 3 GPI, 93.42%, 1.68 GAA, Carr 6 GPI, 93.47%, 2.12 GAA. Vs Blaze, Whistle was 2 GPI, 88.14%, 3.54 GAA, Carr 3 GPI, 89.36%, 3.21 GAA. Vs Steelers, Whistle was 2 GPI, 92.98%, 2.02 GAA, Carr 8 GPI, 89.13%, 3.67 GAA. (To be fair, Whistle's 2 games were early in the season CC games.) Whistle batted well above his average vs Steelers. None of which proves anything much, but I'm always wary of netminders allegedly getting "easier" games to make their stats look good. The above doesn't suggest that is the case in this case. Whistle didn't have poor stats vs the "big" teams and very good ones vs the "weak" teams any more than Carr did. When the 2 of them played multiple games against the same opposition, their stats are mostly quite similar.
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 12, 2021 13:58:30 GMT
Also worth pointing out that Whistle had easier starts overall. Carr started against the top 4 (Devils, Steelers, Blaze and Giants) 22 times in all competitions - 18 league, 4 cup. Whistles started just 4 against the top. Whistle also had 30% of his starts (4/13) against bottom of the table flyers. He also never faces the Devils or Giants at all. That's not to say he's rubbish, but that comparing a starter and his understudy's save percentage is not apples to apples. Fair dos. In the games played vs the "Big 4" (notwithstanding Whistle never faced Devils or Giants), Carr went 91.18%, 3.01 GAA, Whistle was 90.52%, 2.78. Vs Fife, Whistle was 4 GPI, 90.57%, 2.54. Carr had 2 games vs Fife, 89.13% and 2.50 GAA. Vs Storm, Whistle was 3 GPI, 93.42%, 1.68 GAA, Carr 6 GPI, 93.47%, 2.12 GAA. Vs Blaze, Whistle was 2 GPI, 88.14%, 3.54 GAA, Carr 3 GPI, 89.36%, 3.21 GAA. Vs Steelers, Whistle was 2 GPI, 92.98%, 2.02 GAA, Carr 8 GPI, 89.13%, 3.67 GAA. (To be fair, Whistle's 2 games were early in the season CC games.) Whistle batted well above his average vs Steelers. None of which proves anything much, but I'm always wary of netminders allegedly getting "easier" games to make their stats look good. The above doesn't suggest that is the case in this case. Whistle didn't have poor stats vs the "big" teams and very good ones vs the "weak" teams any more than Carr did. When the 2 of them played multiple games against the same opposition, their stats are mostly quite similar. They are similar when compared against the same teams. Although Whistle's 4 cup games were group ones (and had a 0.94 save percentage) , whereas Carr had 4 group games plus quarters and semis. Either way, I think Whistle is a solid starter in this league. Not extraordinary, but good enough, especially in a 1a-1b goalie scenario.
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Post by bobness on Mar 12, 2021 16:31:40 GMT
Either way, I think Whistle is a solid starter in this league. Not extraordinary, but good enough, especially in a 1a-1b goalie scenario. It took a lot of numbers, but we can certainly agree on that.
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