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Post by Bagheera on Mar 25, 2020 22:02:34 GMT
A thread to peehaps be a bit of a dsitraction from the rest of the world.
Of course it is difficult to really measure the success of the season for Panthers without it concluding, but let's do our best to judge it from what we know.
For me it was certainly a positive one. Some ups and downs with an aweful start. A start that left most of us questioning the changes.
Ultimaitly It was a success for me because it got myself and many others re engaged with the club for the first time in a long time. Improvements to be made for sure, however it feels like we are heading in the right direction.
Next season, however it looks, should there be one at all will be the big test. Can we continue the mommentum and compete for the whole season.
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Post by Mark on Mar 29, 2020 14:51:34 GMT
Next season will be the one to judge.The club have to move forward, another woeful start just will not do. A strong set of re-signs backed by solid new arrivals and a positive, winning game plan.
I believe Tim Wallace and Gui Doucet have improved the club. Further improvement is a must, another season of mediocrity following promising signs would be a disaster.
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Post by Jord v4 on Mar 29, 2020 14:56:48 GMT
From the outside looking in I'd say it was a success.
Plenty saw some clear roster holes early on which we're fixed & the end team seemed just as good as the best had to offer. Unearthed an absolute gem in Herr who is a must going forward. A year of good learning for the management team & a bright future for when they can get back on the ice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 15:14:43 GMT
While we need to building on this recent season.. the summer recruitment is gonna be severely effected.. it's going to be more like Autumn recruitment. It's going to be a difficult time for all teams involved. You may see key players decide to stay stateside next year in fear of flying to far from home for a while. So dont be quick blaming panthers inability to retain players as things out of their control may play a part
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 15:54:23 GMT
A very successful season after a truly disastrous start. The team was flawed but didn't lack in grit and heart.
Under normal circumstances it'd be a great season to build off, a good amount of players retained and a very real expectation that trophies should be won.
These aren't normal circumstances though and I really see the EIHL a completely different league next year. I forsee a reduction in imports and likely at most an 8 team league rather than 10.
Imagine arena teams now trying to get suitable dates for hockey games with all the postponed acts and events now looking to book new dates for next year, on top of events already pencilled in for next year.
British hockey landscape will have changed but there is no league or sport worldwide that isn't going to be affected.
It's now purely just about survival for clubs and league.
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Post by wgray on Mar 29, 2020 16:08:03 GMT
While we need to building on this recent season.. the summer recruitment is gonna be severely effected.. it's going to be more like Autumn recruitment. It's going to be a difficult time for all teams involved. You may see key players decide to stay stateside next year in fear of flying to far from home for a while. So dont be quick blaming panthers inability to retain players as things out of their control may play a part As you say, there are going to be a lot of new factors influencing players that we’ve not had to deal with before. With the season finishing early I’m hoping that a lot of the players may feel like there’s unfinished business in Nottingham. The fact that we didn’t win anything after going so close in the Continental cup and clawing our way back into the title race, hopefully it doesn’t sit well with a lot of them. |
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Post by wgray on Mar 29, 2020 16:17:26 GMT
Even with the poor start and lack of silverware I’d have to say this season has revitalised my passion for Hockey. There’s been a big change in player recruitment with underperforming players being replaced with the right players. We had a team that cared and gave their all, even when we weren’t getting the results.
Wallace and Doucet have changed the club entirely in my eyes, it feels like there’s a completely different atmosphere around the team and the majority of the fanbase are united. I also believe Block 19 has been a positive move by the club and has helped the feeing around the club.
Who knows what’s going to happen with next season but so long as we have Doucet and Wallace in charge I’m confident we’ll continue to head in the right direction.
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Post by iginla on Mar 29, 2020 19:10:22 GMT
Even with the poor start and lack of silverware I’d have to say this season has revitalised my passion for Hockey. There’s been a big change in player recruitment with underperforming players being replaced with the right players. We had a team that cared and gave their all, even when we weren’t getting the results. Wallace and Doucet have changed the club entirely in my eyes, it feels like there’s a completely different atmosphere around the team and the majority of the fanbase are united. I also believe Block 19 has been a positive move by the club and has helped the feeing around the club. Who knows what’s going to happen with next season but so long as we have Doucet and Wallace in charge I’m confident we’ll continue to head in the right direction. Not strictly true about replacing underperforming players though is it,you make it sound like Panthers gassed the deadwood ? Loiseau left of his own accord. Desantis left of his own accord. And Bulmer left because of visa issues. But there are probably two or three players who should have been gassed but weren’t. I’d say recruitment was better,overall it was an improvement on previous but still only a pretty average season. |
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Post by wgray on Mar 29, 2020 20:25:50 GMT
Even with the poor start and lack of silverware I’d have to say this season has revitalised my passion for Hockey. There’s been a big change in player recruitment with underperforming players being replaced with the right players. We had a team that cared and gave their all, even when we weren’t getting the results. Wallace and Doucet have changed the club entirely in my eyes, it feels like there’s a completely different atmosphere around the team and the majority of the fanbase are united. I also believe Block 19 has been a positive move by the club and has helped the feeing around the club. Who knows what’s going to happen with next season but so long as we have Doucet and Wallace in charge I’m confident we’ll continue to head in the right direction. Not strictly true about replacing underperforming players though is it,you make it sound like Panthers gassed the deadwood ? Loiseau left of his own accord. Desantis left of his own accord. And Bulmer left because of visa issues. But there are probably two or three players who should have been gassed but weren’t. I’d say recruitment was better,overall it was an improvement on previous but still only a pretty average season. Jakobs and Quist underperformed and we replaced them with Hanson and Horvat, no? As you say, Loiseau left of his own accord but I don’t think we got to see enough of him to make a judgement, but Doucet followed through, maybe a bit slower than we would have liked, by getting a quality replacement in Talbot. I know Bulmer eventually left but he was lucky that Quist and Jakobs were on the team as I imagine he was 3rd in line to be replaced, luckily he found form at the right time and probably avoided the chop. (He was still inconsistent though, I felt). Tousignant was effectively his replacement, they’re different players and they bring different aspects that a team needs but I’d say he’s been effective, another decent outcome. I personally don’t feel that DeSantis was a bad player so it was a shame he left, but Doucet reacted quickly and brought Binkley in straight away, more good work from Doucet. I think if we had the team we finished the season with to start with we’d be sitting at the top of the table, so who else are you classing as deadwood? |
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Post by jd on Mar 29, 2020 20:29:13 GMT
Even with the poor start and lack of silverware I’d have to say this season has revitalised my passion for Hockey. There’s been a big change in player recruitment with underperforming players being replaced with the right players. We had a team that cared and gave their all, even when we weren’t getting the results. Wallace and Doucet have changed the club entirely in my eyes, it feels like there’s a completely different atmosphere around the team and the majority of the fanbase are united. I also believe Block 19 has been a positive move by the club and has helped the feeing around the club. Who knows what’s going to happen with next season but so long as we have Doucet and Wallace in charge I’m confident we’ll continue to head in the right direction. Not strictly true about replacing underperforming players though is it,you make it sound like Panthers gassed the deadwood ? Loiseau left of his own accord. Desantis left of his own accord. And Bulmer left because of visa issues. But there are probably two or three players who should have been gassed but weren’t. I’d say recruitment was better,overall it was an improvement on previous but still only a pretty average season. Cut Quist and Jakobs and replaced with better players. Loiseau did us a favour as he was poo poo. Bulmer and Desantis, we did what we could as soon as we knew they were off. Horvat, Talbot, Hansen, Binkley and Tousignant were good replacements. Who knows where we would have finished. After last years horror show we have more positives than negatives. Keep a core of players and build around them. Matheson and Herr were outstanding. |
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Post by iginla on Mar 29, 2020 21:12:15 GMT
Not strictly true about replacing underperforming players though is it,you make it sound like Panthers gassed the deadwood ? Loiseau left of his own accord. Desantis left of his own accord. And Bulmer left because of visa issues. But there are probably two or three players who should have been gassed but weren’t. I’d say recruitment was better,overall it was an improvement on previous but still only a pretty average season. Jakobs and Quist underperformed and we replaced them with Hanson and Horvat, no? As you say, Loiseau left of his own accord but I don’t think we got to see enough of him to make a judgement, but Doucet followed through, maybe a bit slower than we would have liked, by getting a quality replacement in Talbot. I know Bulmer eventually left but he was lucky that Quist and Jakobs were on the team as I imagine he was 3rd in line to be replaced, luckily he found form at the right time and probably avoided the chop. (He was still inconsistent though, I felt). Tousignant was effectively his replacement, they’re different players and they bring different aspects that a team needs but I’d say he’s been effective, another decent outcome. I personally don’t feel that DeSantis was a bad player so it was a shame he left, but Doucet reacted quickly and brought Binkley in straight away, more good work from Doucet. I think if we had the team we finished the season with to start with we’d be sitting at the top of the table, so who else are you classing as deadwood? Oh yes apologies,how could i possibly forget Quist and Jakobs......actually very easily as they were both virtually anonymous. They should have cut either Malmquist or Golovkovs though,because along with Rheault on the roster that was three imports not producing enough between them. The finishing roster in the last month was pretty decent though,if there’s one lesson you would hope Wallace and Gromit learnt it’s that you can’t get initial recruitment so wrong and expect to win the league. |
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Post by wgray on Mar 29, 2020 23:51:15 GMT
Jakobs and Quist underperformed and we replaced them with Hanson and Horvat, no? As you say, Loiseau left of his own accord but I don’t think we got to see enough of him to make a judgement, but Doucet followed through, maybe a bit slower than we would have liked, by getting a quality replacement in Talbot. I know Bulmer eventually left but he was lucky that Quist and Jakobs were on the team as I imagine he was 3rd in line to be replaced, luckily he found form at the right time and probably avoided the chop. (He was still inconsistent though, I felt). Tousignant was effectively his replacement, they’re different players and they bring different aspects that a team needs but I’d say he’s been effective, another decent outcome. I personally don’t feel that DeSantis was a bad player so it was a shame he left, but Doucet reacted quickly and brought Binkley in straight away, more good work from Doucet. I think if we had the team we finished the season with to start with we’d be sitting at the top of the table, so who else are you classing as deadwood? Oh yes apologies,how could i possibly forget Quist and Jakobs......actually very easily as they were both virtually anonymous. They should have cut either Malmquist or Golovkovs though,because along with Rheault on the roster that was three imports not producing enough between them. The finishing roster in the last month was pretty decent though,if there’s one lesson you would hope Wallace and Gromit learnt it’s that you can’t get initial recruitment so wrong and expect to win the league. I’d agree with you regards Golovkovs and Malmquist, they’re not top 6 forwards, good players who I’d take on the 3rd line but not players who we can rely on for goals. They made mistakes in initial recruitment, hopefully they can retain our best players and add some more quality players to the team. It’ll be interesting to see what happens on the Brit front as well. |
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Post by jd on Mar 30, 2020 6:17:44 GMT
Bye bye #7 please
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Post by Jord v4 on Mar 30, 2020 7:08:41 GMT
Someone is verging on the edge of caring here potentially...
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Post by iginla on Mar 30, 2020 7:36:22 GMT
Yup. But they desperately need to do something with the Brit pack,you can’t lose Clarke,Farmer and Lee without replacing them,even if they did make a token gesture on Whistle. Unfortunately Panthers reputation makes Brit recruitment extra tough for a coach, |
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Post by iginla on Mar 30, 2020 7:39:18 GMT
Someone is verging on the edge of caring here potentially... Don’t be silly Jord.... The tv was pants and this place needs livening up,it’s got very dull and boring ! |
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Post by Wolves 66 on Mar 30, 2020 8:26:13 GMT
For several years prior to this season I have found myself questioning whether to renew my season ticket. The reason being that I felt like I'd been watching a team that hadn't given it their all and often hadn't played like they wanted to win. If they didn't care, why should I? The main reason that kept me coming back was the fact that my son wanted to.
This season feels very different. I think we've had a squad that have given it their all and were challenging for the league and the play off title. For that reason, in my mind it has been a successful season.
I think Sam Herr as Captain has been a significant contributing factor to this. I really hope he's back next year
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 9:09:15 GMT
I'm aware it's a million miles away but I'm intrigued how recruitment is handled across the league this summer/autumn.
Lots of questions not many answers.. as its relies heavily on bums on seats/webcasts etc I'm really not convinced the league can survive this if next season is shortened etc.
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Post by iginla on Mar 30, 2020 10:27:54 GMT
I'm aware it's a million miles away but I'm intrigued how recruitment is handled across the league this summer/autumn. Lots of questions not many answers.. as its relies heavily on bums on seats/webcasts etc I'm really not convinced the league can survive this if next season is shortened etc. Indeed Pidge. Well judging by the fact that the EIHL said a week or so ago that budgets had been discussed between all the teams I’d hazard a guess that next season,if there is one, will see a lowering of budgets or even a wage cap and therefore a reduction in player quality across the league. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 10:36:19 GMT
Without doubt.. it's a worrying time for all owners/team officials across the league. Many sports leagues can pick up the pieces and move along and make slight adjustments.. minor sports will take big hits I can assure you. The issue is with this league most teams think of themselves and not the bigger picture.. will this be any different?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 30, 2020 11:16:47 GMT
Very satisfied with the season as soon as they changed direction and brought in the North American style again. Loved Herr and he was the key. Without Herr or a lowering of import numbers and/or quality then it’s done for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 11:19:52 GMT
Very satisfied with the season as soon as they changed direction and brought in the North American style again. Loved Herr and he was the key. Without Herr or a lowering of import numbers and/or quality then it’s done for me. Don't be surprised if Herr stays stateside so soon after this pandemic and I doubt it would be without Panthers efforts to retain him.. this goes for alot of players around the league |
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Post by texpef on Mar 30, 2020 12:00:20 GMT
Very satisfied with the season as soon as they changed direction and brought in the North American style again. Loved Herr and he was the key. Without Herr or a lowering of import numbers and/or quality then it’s done for me. Don't be surprised if Herr stays stateside so soon after this pandemic and I doubt it would be without Panthers efforts to retain him.. this goes for alot of players around the league Pidge IF this happens for a lot of KEY players around the league then fair play BUT if this happens at panthers with the likes of Sheffield/Cardiff etc re-signing their better players then its business as usual at panthers and this is a ready made excuse for them to trot out to the masses... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 12:11:51 GMT
It's not an excuse it's a global crisis we are in. If Herr doesn't want to fly abroad for a few months then fair enough. I doubt teams will retain huge cores of their squads now
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Post by texpef on Mar 30, 2020 13:23:07 GMT
It's not an excuse it's a global crisis we are in. If Herr doesn't want to fly abroad for a few months then fair enough. I doubt teams will retain huge cores of their squads now Time will tell.... |
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