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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 6, 2020 16:33:44 GMT
In the current situation the play-offs bringing people to Nottingham from all over the UK would be an act of madness
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Post by Jord v4 on Mar 6, 2020 16:48:26 GMT
It's happening... Don't say I didn't warn you all.
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Post by wolfmac on Mar 6, 2020 17:09:35 GMT
Too difficult to really speculate at the moment. Based on the comments made by Chris Witty, Chief Medical Officer, we’re still nine weeks away from the peak of the spread, while reported cases are already tapering off in Wuhan.
It could be that the wider public’s exposure to the virus’ underwhelming mildness in most uncompromised people will see many places do away with what turned out to be sensationalised panic and carry on vigilantly.
It could also be that it wipes out a fifth of over-70s and we’re deluding ourselves on the fumes of desperate hope that the playoffs will somehow go ahead.
I think we could at least see Cardiff crowned champions if this weekend’s results go their away, but the playoffs are difficult as you can’t really postpone or reschedule them given that 70% of the crowd has hotels and travel arrangements paid for, which the process of recouping has not been clarified so far.
It could be an extremely s—t few months in which the league ends early and the economy is eviscerated, or coronavirus could be a tasteless nostalgia-meme by June, like the Iran nuclear war threat that had us all holding hands in January.
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Post by PantherG on Mar 6, 2020 17:59:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 19:16:20 GMT
Since when have the eihl followed protocol on things like this or taken strict guidelines to avoid a mass gathering of 6,500 potentially not washing their hands its potential for a real germ fest..
On the other hand theres no way they will contemplate cancelling and losing out on the one pay day which keeps the league afloat.
Glad I'm not there
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 6, 2020 19:49:36 GMT
Since when have the eihl followed protocol on things like this or taken strict guidelines to avoid a mass gathering of 6,500 potentially not washing their hands its potential for a real germ fest.. On the other hand theres no way they will contemplate cancelling and losing out on the one pay day which keeps the league afloat. Glad I'm not there I think it will the NIC’s decision and it stands no chance of going ahead
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 2:21:13 GMT
Fans coming from a minimum of 9 other cities, not forgetting there are also now a couple of foreign fan groups I know who come for POFW in what is often not the most hygenic venue.
Remove hockey and your passion for the sport. Are you happy for such an event to take place in the city you live in?
Here in Toronto we have a low number of cases but turns out I got on a subway on Monday with an infected person on one of the carriages. Suddenly when it feels real and on your doorstep then your view alters slightly.
Certainly no need to panic and lock yourselves in until it's all over but depending on how much it spreads in the UK then the discussion must be had about POFW and whether the risk is worth it.
I get it's critical for the league for it to happen and a cancellation would have a huge impact but is it more important than people's safety if it was deemed there's a risk?
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Post by Rob Scott on Mar 7, 2020 2:46:33 GMT
Fans coming from a minimum of 9 other cities, not forgetting there are also now a couple of foreign fan groups I know who come for POFW in what is often not the most hygenic venue. Remove hockey and your passion for the sport. Are you happy for such an event to take place in the city you live in? Here in Toronto we have a low number of cases but turns out I got on a subway on Monday with an infected person on one of the carriages. Suddenly when it feels real and on your doorstep then your view alters slightly. Certainly no need to panic and lock yourselves in until it's all over but depending on how much it spreads in the UK then the discussion must be had about POFW and whether the risk is worth it. I get it's critical for the league for it to happen and a cancellation would have a huge impact but is it more important than people's safety if it was deemed there's a risk?
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Post by tim27 on Mar 7, 2020 7:39:04 GMT
Fans coming from a minimum of 9 other cities, not forgetting there are also now a couple of foreign fan groups I know who come for POFW in what is often not the most hygenic venue. Remove hockey and your passion for the sport. Are you happy for such an event to take place in the city you live in? Here in Toronto we have a low number of cases but turns out I got on a subway on Monday with an infected person on one of the carriages. Suddenly when it feels real and on your doorstep then your view alters slightly. Certainly no need to panic and lock yourselves in until it's all over but depending on how much it spreads in the UK then the discussion must be had about POFW and whether the risk is worth it. I get it's critical for the league for it to happen and a cancellation would have a huge impact but is it more important than people's safety if it was deemed there's a risk? You will have also been in the same carriage as someone else with the flu. In a bad season flu and kill up to 13000 people a year in the uk. You do not want to get flu at any time as it is horrible but you dont go round in a panic that someone sneezed near you. The biggest problem is people do not understand flu they ring up work saying they have the flu when all they have is a cold. All flu is bad but what is worse is when you panic about another flu that will have killed less people this year than any other flu going round. Do people still panic about swine flu? Thats still going round and infecting people. People panicking about this will cause the economy to crash for no reason and i bet you that will cost more lives in the uk than this virus.
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Post by spik on Mar 7, 2020 11:17:09 GMT
I'm not panicking. I'm listening to official bodies and abiding by good hygiene. I am over 60 and have been advised by news items to stay indoors yet I haven't because of two days' work and voluntary work. If/as it gets worse I will take this seriously and stay at home (we have a case in Nottingham now)and am not due to be at the playoffs at all.
Difficult scenario with obvious sides to the story but without a vaccine like the flu and as I am older than younger and not being an expert and am thus not saying I know anything of this. But it is wise to keep tabs on it all.
Let's hopefully get the domestic season done and if the Worlds are canceled we can stay as a top nation for another year and would it be in a different country to play in by then?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 15:37:31 GMT
Fans coming from a minimum of 9 other cities, not forgetting there are also now a couple of foreign fan groups I know who come for POFW in what is often not the most hygenic venue. Remove hockey and your passion for the sport. Are you happy for such an event to take place in the city you live in? Here in Toronto we have a low number of cases but turns out I got on a subway on Monday with an infected person on one of the carriages. Suddenly when it feels real and on your doorstep then your view alters slightly. Certainly no need to panic and lock yourselves in until it's all over but depending on how much it spreads in the UK then the discussion must be had about POFW and whether the risk is worth it. I get it's critical for the league for it to happen and a cancellation would have a huge impact but is it more important than people's safety if it was deemed there's a risk? You will have also been in the same carriage as someone else with the flu. In a bad season flu and kill up to 13000 people a year in the uk. You do not want to get flu at any time as it is horrible but you dont go round in a panic that someone sneezed near you. The biggest problem is people do not understand flu they ring up work saying they have the flu when all they have is a cold. All flu is bad but what is worse is when you panic about another flu that will have killed less people this year than any other flu going round. Do people still panic about swine flu? Thats still going round and infecting people. People panicking about this will cause the economy to crash for no reason and i bet you that will cost more lives in the uk than this virus. The state of some folk here I'm risking a whole lot worse than Coronavirus getting on the subway! Difference is that there is a vaccine for the flu(most strains anyway) so the vunerable can be protected from this. The vunerable and employees working in the health care industry don't have that option with Coronavirus. A vaccine will be available at some stage I'm assuming but until then vigilance is needed to limit the impact. Where you draw the line of what is vigilant and what is excessive is surely just a case of reacting to how the whole incident evolves, I don't think you can categorically rule out cancelling any event right now.
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Post by wolfmac on Mar 7, 2020 15:57:37 GMT
Whether out of panic or not, I think the highest chances for cancellation will come in response to the first cluster of UK deaths. Even if it’s several extremely extenuating cases of pre-existing conditions, the media will shepherd the scariest narrative into view at the first opportunity. It’s up to the government, medical experts and any company/event to maintain sense and follow science to the letter.
Won’t get my hopes up for that one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2020 16:07:42 GMT
4 more cases in Nottinghamshire in the last 24 hours. Of the 5 cases, 2 in city centre. The rest in the county, but not disclosed where. At this rate it could be 100's or more in 3 or 4 weeks. If that is the case, would it seem logical to bring people in 1000's into an arena?
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Post by John Casey on Mar 7, 2020 17:05:26 GMT
Are they still selling tickets?
Will the football season still be going when The Play Offs are on, if so and they cancel The Play Offs, then they would have to cancel the football as well.
To cancel events which will cost businesses valuable income will be decisions that will not be taken lightly, so let's see what happens over the next couple of weeks and then see what the landscape is
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Post by Jord v4 on Mar 7, 2020 17:47:32 GMT
This is being cancelled for sure. Cases will be in the thousands by the time it goes ahead & multiple larger sports events will be shutdown beforehand.
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Post by Bagheera on Mar 7, 2020 18:35:50 GMT
The league or the arena wont have a say in the matter. The government will make the decision and everyone will have to abide by it. The only chance it will have is if it comes under whatever threshold is set. Maybe gatherings over 10,000 are cancelled, maybe 5,000, maybe 1,000. Wait and see.
As it stands I think its more likely that it will get cancelled than it going ahead.
Im not to worried personally about the virus as it stands. No panic buying or staying for me. My views on the likelihood of the event going ahead are just a judgement based on what we have seen so far as apossed to what I would like to happen.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 7, 2020 18:40:14 GMT
The league or the arena wont have a say in the matter. The government will make the decision and everyone will have to abide by it. The only chance it will have is if it comes under whatever threshold is set. Maybe gatherings over 10,000 are cancelled, maybe 5,000, maybe 1,000. Wait and see. As it stands I think its more likely that it will get cancelled than it going ahead. Im not to worried personally about the virus as it stands. No panic buying or staying for me. My views on the likelihood of the event going ahead are just a judgement based on what we have seen so far as apossed to what I would like to happen. It's an indoor sport so the threshold will be VERY low compared to football, rugby, etc. Unless the news is all news hype and the virus doesn't spread at all (as has happened MANY times before) I have four play-off tickets for sale
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Post by jdizpt8 on Mar 7, 2020 19:38:25 GMT
I think we’re far enough out that it could come and go by then, vaccines are being worked on, thousands have contracted the disease and already gotten over it. I think we’ll be fine for playoffs. Plus the amount of alcohol floating about that weekend everyone will be sterile come Sunday night anyway. No need to over think the situation until there’s something in black and white from the people in power.
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Post by nightwish on Mar 8, 2020 7:25:14 GMT
This would mean no football, no rugby,,no concerts, can’t see that happening. See Italy. It can & will happen. There's no stopping this thing, it's here to wipe out a certain generation. We will have triple figure confirmed cases this week, deaths will follow, mass events will be shutdown, cities potentially locked down, supermarket & petrol panic buying is imminent. Batten down your hatches folks. Or just wash your hands with soap and water 🙂
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Post by spik on Mar 8, 2020 9:37:29 GMT
I think we’re far enough out that it could come and go by then, vaccines are being worked on, thousands have contracted the disease and already gotten over it. I think we’ll be fine for playoffs. Plus the amount of alcohol floating about that weekend everyone will be sterile come Sunday night anyway. No need to over think the situation until there’s something in black and white from the people in power. 'Come and go by then..' is a good guess when not over thinking it. The vaccine worked upon is said to be available in a year or so. People with the virus may get over it but these are the ones who have all the attention in the earliest moments. Containing and healing folk when the NHS can't cope with the numbers is a different scenario. Glad the CUP is being played and gotten out of the way. If the remaining league games are to be cancelled. Next season?, the final ones will have to be completed next Winter? and a revised and shorter schedule for a 20-21 campaign devised. Knowing Elite that could be fascinating stuff.
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Post by Discoray on Mar 8, 2020 11:37:18 GMT
Coronavirus itself won't see events like this cancelled, but a lack of common sense in dealing with it thanks to the media hysteria over it probably will.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 13:29:25 GMT
Coronavirus itself won't see events like this cancelled, but a lack of common sense in dealing with it thanks to the media hysteria over it probably will. Boom!! Post of the day
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Post by jd on Mar 8, 2020 16:27:58 GMT
See Italy. It can & will happen. There's no stopping this thing, it's here to wipe out a certain generation. We will have triple figure confirmed cases this week, deaths will follow, mass events will be shutdown, cities potentially locked down, supermarket & petrol panic buying is imminent. Batten down your hatches folks. Or just wash your hands with soap and water 🙂 It’s amazing how many people are bragging about doing this. Almost as if it’s something new
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Post by Yotes on Mar 8, 2020 17:09:07 GMT
Or just wash your hands with soap and water 🙂 It’s amazing how many people are bragging about doing this. Almost as if it’s something new To a lot of people it clearly is.
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 8, 2020 17:44:28 GMT
133 die in the last 24 hours in Italy, Lombardy region of around 16 million on lockdown. Just the sniffles though.
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